to think that 4x4 drivers are the most selfish w@*&(*&s ever???

[redrobin]

It makes my blood boil! They drive their big childcrushers whilst on the phone, they tailgate other smaller cars, they use enormous amounts of petrol, they block up roads, they look threatening...how can people choose to drive something like that? Do they have ha a selfish gene, do they think they are just better than other people so rules don't apply to them, or are they just thick?

(NOTE this is only about town drivers, i appreciate that they are useful in the countryside).

Sometimes, I think Jeremy Clarkson is winning.

marmaduke, you are right, i did hear it was illegal.
But so many drivers' windows are blacked out these days.

Shall i start taking down their numbers and reporting them to the police?
hmmmmmm

And what do my choices say about me redrobin?

liath i wouldnt say the thread has descended, rather that the tone has been raised somewhat

and i am now going to shop all tinted window drivers grrrrrrrrr

My car choice (got one 2 weeks ago) says ;I want the smallest car possible what you can get a wheelchair into'
Hence a 1.2 Kangoo.
Still hate it.
And I hate drivers, mainly BMW ad 4x4 drivers, who park up close behind despite a sticker saying wheelchair access needed. So I'm going to get a sticker wot says 'I'll just lower the ramp on your farking car and bump the wheelchair over the top if you park close you moron'

sorry sorry, had to go and have a little chat....
that sounds good.....
can I have my kit AND the 3 hairy arsed musicians, preferably with hairy arses out...
or maybe I should drive an RV through town? what do you reckon?

stressteddy - think i've been over all that.

lovely to have an adult debate with you rr - goodnight

sleep well

I drive a landrover discovery - but I am married to a farmer and unlike 90% of other 4x4's I go off road in it. I also tow a horse box. But I have to use it on the school run as we cannot have the luxury of having a another, smaller car for that.

I am also a good driver and I am very careful, especially as it is a brand new car and I would hate to damage it. I am far more cautious round bends than some of the mothers from school who I have met on blind bends as they hurtle round in their golfs, meaning that I have to mount the verge to avoid a head on crash.

My route to school is 8 miles on country lanes and when it is icy I have stopped to help tow people in smaller cars out of ditches and also rescued someone who had driven their smaller car through a flood and got stuck - if I was driving a smaller car I would not be able to live my life or get my children to the places that they need to get to, so that must make me selfish?

It's not just 4x4 drivers, it's pretty much all BMW drivers too, they take up 2 parking spaces because they don't want anyone to park beside them in case they dent their precious car and are obviously above the law as they chat on their mobiles while driving.

Grr, their attitude really annoys me!!

You only get hairy arsed musos on the custom jobs.

Factory model comes with half eaten kebab & 2 months worth of the 'Sunday Sport'...

Seriously, dh insisted on buying the bloody thing & I took some persuasion, but it's actually fantastic - cheap insurance, better fuel economy than our old rover, greener than a 4x4 & no more domestics over packing the boot for holidays.

i have a vw touareg and vw golf. We chose a 4x4 as the previous car was getting tight for the boys leg room in the back, plus one large dog - so need boot space and i didnt want an estate. the golf is for round town, but i have used it on the school run. touareg is for forest/country and weekends.

i am not a bad drver, i am considerate no matter what car i am in and you can't tar all drivers with the same brush.

I'd go for the kebab raven, not sure about the SS though.

toratora - i refer you to OP, i accept they are appropriate in the country. i am talking city centre drivers.

Have just read the rest of the thread.

another vote for a volvo estate here!!

I just had a big Volvo Estate (can't remeber what type, just it was an insurance group higher than mine and worth £35k) for a courtesy vehicle (a super sporty one too, frightened the life out of me, also cream leather interior didn't look so good when I returned it!)

Couldn't get my DS' Maclaren Major (disbled buggy) and his other off road (4x4 ) adapted buggy in the back with enough room for picnic/shopping etc without blocking the back window.

I can in my own car.

what's irritating where i live is that so many 4x4s are parked on both sides of the road which actually means that there is less road. and yet... when i meet a 4x4 head on in what used to be a two lane road... i'm the one who has to pull in. accept some collective responsibility, people...

Have not read all of thread but why, oh why, do people buy big people carriers/4x4s when they patently cannot drive them competently? Or if they can, why do they sit in the middle of narrow, inner-city streets and expect people like me (in a smaller car) to reverse entire length of street or mount the pavement to go around them? Why? Surely if you insist on having a oversized vehicle in a very crowded area you should at least learn how to put it into farkin reverse and not sit uselessly staring at me getting very worked up about the fact that you're just not going to move AND LOOK VERY STUPID.

aitch- I ALWAYS pull in on a narrow road, normally cos I can go up the verge,down the ditch with no problem

do you live next door to me, snotty?

pedilia, there are no ditches where i live. in the city. (honestly, why are all the bumpkins getting cross about this, it's nothing to do with them.)

i just don't undersatnd the complete lack of regard for the air we breathe in driving those things! I can't drive at all so perhaps that is my problem, but I get around fine, I cycle, with a baby seat on the back for my 2 yo,my other 2 kids cycle along with us, and if its too far to cycle, we get the bus/train or if Dh is not working he will drive us all in our 1.4l car. yes 1.4 and all 5 of us, plus camping equipment and 5 bikes stuck on the bike rack, manage to cope just fine. and we don't just cope, we're comfortable.
so, apart from if you live in the desert / a farm / a swamp land, why do you need one?

RR, have you noticed the marked similarity between your average 4x4 and those big black bins the cooncil introduced for tenements? Why was it the New Town residents got so worked up about it? Hmmm.

BMWs are worse though. do their engines cut out if they don't tailgate you or something?

And of course you are not being remotely unreasonable. They're all twats.

hahahahhaha barcode, the bin comparison is HILARIOUS! thanks for that