Global Warming Being Referred to as ‘lovely weather’

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What’s that all about, then?

If every day was the same as today, you would have a point. We’ve had some cold, yucky rainy days this summer. We don’t live in a hot climate. We occasionally have got sunny days, but we always have ever since I can remember.

Weather is the day to day state
Climate is the average over a long period of time

Weather should not be assumed to be lovely or not for everyone. This week at least in the south of England is unusually warm, but that does not make it lovely. Rain if your garden needs it will be lovely for some, not for others, as an example.

The trend over the last 20 years to have 'weather presenters' who may not be meteorologists and are usually those generally felt to be easy on the eye is not something I agree with.

Weather and climate change are not the same thing. There isn’t any more climate change when it’s hot in the UK than when it is cold in the UK. You can’t judge climate change based on one hot week in September any more than you can relax because August was cool and wet.

If climate change stopped the Gulf Stream then UK winters would get significantly colder… that would not be a sign that the globe was cooling.

It’s perfectly normal for people to enjoy spells of nice settled weather and not enjoy wet and gloomy weather. It doesn’t mean they aren’t concerned about changes in the climate overall. Climate change doesn’t mean always sunny and warm, so it’s weird to link the two in that way.

Climate change is real.
I am a bit scared about it.
I also cannot spend every day that it is hot thinking about it and talking about doom.

There is an annual event near me that happena on the first weekend in September, this week I've had several photo memories come up of the event and in every one the weather was the same - sunny and way too hot for the poor exhibitors in the marquees

That's a bit much, midgemadge, a bit unkind. It is very, very natural for bright light and warm sunshine to improve mood. I know it does mine. I think there is well-documented research about its affect on mental health.
And at this time of year it feels especially valuable, because we have the knowledge that it will soon get gloomier and gloomier. I feel like sucking up all this lovely sunshine and storing it for the winter. That's perfectly compatible with wishing it was , say, 24 degrees instead of 30, and that it was not affected by climate change.

Dick move.

A seriously dick move.

OP, you seem to have weather confused with climate, don't like it when people are happy, and yes, you are being aggressive in your replies.

People are not climate apologists simply for pointing all of this out to you.

My mental health has taken a tumble at yet more evidence of the scale of the problem - it may be too late already

And it takes yet more of a tumble at the denial and the reluctance to change out ways

Where was climate change when i wanted it through the summer holidays? Not here, always waits till the kids go back to bloody school.

Individuals just have no control over climate change, until China and India are on board anything an individual does in the UK is going to have no impact. China has over a 1000 coal power plants and is building more at a rate of knots - 2 a week were approved in 2022 - and we wring our hands over the 3 we have.

I am not going to worry about something I have no control over and I am going to enjoy any good weather we get.

@midgemadgemodge None of that justifies what you wrote in your last post.

Not the way to go

I'm not sure that posting threads in mumsnet trying to prompt guilt about enjoying a bit of sunshine has any more impact than enjoying a bit of sunshine.

However, I know someone on Facebook who seems to believe that posting similar things on there will cancel the impact of her long distance holidays, so maybe I'm wrong?

You put it so much more concisely than me, Desecrated.

The weather has been hotter in May and September for years. With a nice spell early July.

That's why for years there has been talk of changing school holidays - not from government I'll admit - but because people in general have notice the pattern.

Yes it's been unseasonably hot this week. But we've always had an unseasonably hot week every year.

This year whilst Europe had it we had an unseasonably rainy august. Except did we? I work in education and I remember it raining the first 3 weeks of summer holidays for ages!

Climate change in the world is a worry. But that doesn't mean we can't enjoy the sunshine when we get it either as it's not been continuous for months.

No it won't. The doom mongering achieves nothing and compounds those already who don't care to care even less.

What are you on about, vege? Doom mongering would be saying there's no hope and we're all fucked (like the people you refer to above).

Midnight saying we need to do more, is the opposite of doom mongering. Any excuse to not be bothered, eh? Someone brought up the word climate change so I can't be asked now.

She's 100% right that it's your children that are affected. If you don't care, then you don't care about them. Caring literally costs nothing. The example pp gave was to vote for different people. Free.

Funnily enough it's my FB memories that have made me realise the storms and rain and heat are the same time every year!

Bad things happen, sometimes there are side effects of the bad things that are good. People can simultaneously try to stop the bad thing while enjoying the good thing when it happens, 'cos we're sophisticated animals.

For example: I'm currently experiencing the worst period of depression I've ever had, however, there's something on the tele every day atm that I love, and usually miss due to work. It's great, the one small glimmer of positivity in my current pit of negativity. Should I refuse to watch/enjoy it, cos the reason I get to is so bad? Bollocks to that, I'm going to embrace it, while also hoping that next year I'm well and unable to do so.

It was too late about two decades ago.

You would probably benefit from some mental health support, @midgemadgemodge . This is the focus of your anxiety. It could have been nuclear attacks by Russia, upcoming war with China, the human rights devastation that awaits us with AI led authoritarianism, antibiotic resistance, the death of bees, but in your case it has chosen as a focus global warming ... which won't even substantially affect us, unlike some of the other options to worry about!

I really don't think it's unusual for hot weather in September. If it was in November/December that would be concerning.

So what should we all do? Sit around and cry? I'm not sure that'll help reduce US and Chinese emissions but it'll certainly make me less able to go about my own life.

Years ago we actually used to have nice hot summers with very little rain.

https://dorsetmind.uk/sunlight-and-your-wellbeing/

sunshine is beneficial for mental health for a lot of people.

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