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Postman took photo of me

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Ringringringringringringringbananaphone · 07/09/2023 13:11

Posting here for traffic - does anyone know if postmen/women (for regular post office mail) are supposed to take pictures with people in? I find my regular postman super-creepy anyway (he calls me love/darling/sweetheart, all within the few seconds transaction of handing over the post, and he has made comments before about what a “beauty” my five year old is). So in general: super creepy.

But today, I swear he took a surreptitious photo of me as he was handing the post over , and I’m very weirded out. It would only have been of my boobs downward as he didn’t point the device at my face, but I’m sure he took a photo. He has done this once before, and left me questioning things in my mind, but he’s always just immediately on his way out of the gate so I haven’t had a chance to say anything to him. I will, next time!

But in the meantime can any posties or knowledgeable people tell me what’s normal/if it’s acceptable to take photos of people when delivering the post? I was thinking of contacting the sorting office, but then he would know it was me that made a complaint and he knows I’m a single parent with a 5 year old (or at least he probably assumes that, as he has never seen anyone else here). It’s really bothered me.

OP posts:
Harridge74 · 08/09/2023 18:50

Ex postie here.
Definitely not ok.
Straight to the police.

SoupDragon · 08/09/2023 18:56

Harridge74 · 08/09/2023 18:50

Ex postie here.
Definitely not ok.
Straight to the police.

And yet two current posties say it's fine 🤷🏻‍♀️

RecklessGoddess · 08/09/2023 19:08

If it's normal post, why do you need to even open the door, surely he should just be posting it through your letterbox??

SkinnyMalinkyLankyLegs · 08/09/2023 20:08

SoupDragon · 08/09/2023 18:56

And yet two current posties say it's fine 🤷🏻‍♀️

Well the two other posties are wrong. Definitely a police matter. Hopefully they refer it straight down to Scotland Yard.

crumblingschools · 08/09/2023 20:31

@RecklessGoddess there were parcels too

Lollipop81 · 08/09/2023 20:44

You sound completely over the top. It sounds like he took a photo of the parcels then a photo of you to show you were present, although they do normally tell you first. I wouldn’t have thought he would even have access to the photos would he? Wouldn’t it be immediately uploaded onto their portal?

Birthdaycake369 · 08/09/2023 20:55

This thread is really unfair. The postman is getting ripped to shreds because the OP thought he took a photo of her. If a photo was taken she would receive it in an email as proof of delivery which she hasn’t. Also there is no beep when a photo is taken only when something is scanned and she said the pda beeped. The postman was likely scanning a barcode before handing her her post. Now he’s a pervert for just doing his job. Ridiculous

AllyArty · 08/09/2023 21:45

He sounds creepy. Have any of your neighbours or friends commented on him? If he had repeatedly taken pictures of me and my children I think I’d report him.

Maidsmum · 08/09/2023 21:45

No. Any courier tells you when they need to take a photo. I have get on pretty well with my post woman and also the other few who deliver larger parcels. I have always been told if they need to take a picture. He sounds like a creep

User16328715 · 08/09/2023 21:53

AllyArty · 08/09/2023 21:45

He sounds creepy. Have any of your neighbours or friends commented on him? If he had repeatedly taken pictures of me and my children I think I’d report him.

He hasn't taken photos of the children, maybe read the thread a little better before posting your two penneth

Canonlythinkofthisone · 08/09/2023 21:54

If his thing "beeped" it's because he scanned something that was tracked.
That is the only point within the delivery and recording on the PDA where you can take a photo. They aren't phones. Think more supermarket scanners. He probably scanned the parcels as you were coming down the garden and then uploaded the photo of delivery. To add, a photo has to be uploaded, even if it is of your thumb, before you can move on to your next delivery.

Ex postie.

Superlegs · 08/09/2023 22:15

If any of the letters or parcels are tracked 24 or 48 , or signed, guaranteed etc. key the numbers into the Royal Mail site, the pictures the postie took for proof of delivery will be there. The images should roughly correlate with what you think he took.

Fluffmum · 08/09/2023 22:49

Evri take pics as well

ivybx · 08/09/2023 23:08

Tbh I feel your totally making a mountain out of a molehill

fetchacloth · 08/09/2023 23:15

Normally they take a picture of the doorstep and the person accepting the parcel but from the waist down.

Terminator66 · 09/09/2023 08:25

Most if not all delivery drivers take a photo of the delivered item either on the floor by the door or in the hands of the person they give the item too.
If the item is signed for then the royal mail might not take a photo as a signature will normally be proof that its delivered the parcel.

My daughter was expecting a parcel some weeks back on a 48 hours delivery slot and it didn't turn up. The next day 72 hours after the order she received the order, it had being opened and instead of the designer shoes she was expecting there was a pair of child shoes that had seen better days.
She phoned the delivery company stated that the parcel said 48 hour delivery and had arrived 24 hours late, opened and the item she was expecting had being replaced with something else. The delivery firm said this driver was under investigation as there had being numerous claims about people receiving opened parcels and the contents being replaced with other items, he had delivered the item and used a photo of the unopened item next to a door that wasn't her door and the delivery company had numerous photo's of the same door for many deliveries in different town and city's on the drivers route .

The thing my daughter found funny is that the driver didn't take a photo of the delivered parcel he just knocked and did a runner being in his van before my daughter got to the door
The company she ordered from sent her a replacement with a 24 hour delivery time.

inamarina · 09/09/2023 09:01

User16328715 · 08/09/2023 21:53

He hasn't taken photos of the children, maybe read the thread a little better before posting your two penneth

Exactly. Several posties have confirmed why and how exactly those pictures are taken.
As for ‘darling’ and ‘love’, it might be not everyone’s cup of tee, but that’s how many people, both men and women, still address others.

Mogwais · 09/09/2023 09:40

If any man makes a woman feel uncomfortable because of his behaviour its not right, no matter how others may perceive it.

SerendipityJane · 09/09/2023 09:47

Mogwais · 09/09/2023 09:40

If any man makes a woman feel uncomfortable because of his behaviour its not right, no matter how others may perceive it.

Edited

Doesn't that rather depend on the behaviour ? Or do you mean any behaviour ? Breathing ? Walking ? Reading ? Making a cup of tea ?

Mogwais · 09/09/2023 09:50

SerendipityJane · 09/09/2023 09:47

Doesn't that rather depend on the behaviour ? Or do you mean any behaviour ? Breathing ? Walking ? Reading ? Making a cup of tea ?

It's quite obvious what I mean.

housethatbuiltme · 09/09/2023 10:39

Mogwais · 09/09/2023 09:40

If any man makes a woman feel uncomfortable because of his behaviour its not right, no matter how others may perceive it.

Edited

NO your discomfort is your own not other people problem.

If someone is just existing an a completely socially appropriate way it YOUR problem not theirs if you are offended by their existence... you are not the center of the universe and other people dont have to exist purely for or alter to fit your comfort.

Mogwais · 09/09/2023 11:19

housethatbuiltme · 09/09/2023 10:39

NO your discomfort is your own not other people problem.

If someone is just existing an a completely socially appropriate way it YOUR problem not theirs if you are offended by their existence... you are not the center of the universe and other people dont have to exist purely for or alter to fit your comfort.

That's your opinion & just like you are entitled to your opinion I'm entitled to mine. I never realised I had to spell it out in simple language that I mean men acting in a socially inappropriate way. I assume the majority of people on this thread have the intelligence to understand what I mean without it needing to be explicitly detailed hence why it's only the minority trying to start a drama. Not everyone is a snowflake just because they feel that people need to be a little more aware of how their actions affect others.

housethatbuiltme · 09/09/2023 11:50

Mogwais · 09/09/2023 11:19

That's your opinion & just like you are entitled to your opinion I'm entitled to mine. I never realised I had to spell it out in simple language that I mean men acting in a socially inappropriate way. I assume the majority of people on this thread have the intelligence to understand what I mean without it needing to be explicitly detailed hence why it's only the minority trying to start a drama. Not everyone is a snowflake just because they feel that people need to be a little more aware of how their actions affect others.

Edited

Yes but your opinion is that others cannot exist or must change because you are personally offended which is oppressive... you dont have the right to oppress and control other groups of people based on your 'opinion'.

Mogwais · 09/09/2023 12:07

housethatbuiltme · 09/09/2023 11:50

Yes but your opinion is that others cannot exist or must change because you are personally offended which is oppressive... you dont have the right to oppress and control other groups of people based on your 'opinion'.

If you're looking for drama go find someone else to cause an argument with, I will continue to want people to respect one another & not act in a leery or inappropriate way & will continue to bring up my kids to respect other people. If that makes me oppressive to wish people could see how inappropriate & disrespectful behaviour can affect how others feel then so be it.

RecklessGoddess · 09/09/2023 13:46

Ahh, ok. I have never had a postie take a picture of me, when delivering a parcel.

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