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Ringringringringringringringbananaphone · 2023-09-07T12:11:49+00:00

Posting here for traffic - does anyone know if postmen/women (for regular post office mail) are supposed to take pictures with people in? I find my regular postman super-creepy anyway (he calls me love/darling/sweetheart, all within the few seconds transaction of handing over the post, and he has made comments before about what a “beauty” my five year old is). So in general: super creepy. But today, I swear he took a surreptitious photo of me as he was handing the post over , and I’m very weirded out. It would only have been of my boobs downward as he didn’t point the device at my face, but I’m sure he took a photo. He has done this once before, and left me questioning things in my mind, but he’s always just immediately on his way out of the gate so I haven’t had a chance to say anything to him. I will, next time! But in the meantime can any posties or knowledgeable people tell me what’s normal/if it’s acceptable to take photos of people when delivering the post? I was thinking of contacting the sorting office, but then he would know it was me that made a complaint and he knows I’m a single parent with a 5 year old (or at least he probably assumes that, as he has never seen anyone else here). It’s really bothered me.

SoupDragon · 07/09/2023 15:57

So in general: super creepy.

It isn't.

WRT the photo, he might have been taking it so you couldn't say the parcels had been stolen from the doorstep as he had a recognisable time stamped photo to prove you were there.

bobaloo · 07/09/2023 16:02

He was taking an additional photo to prove you were there when the packages were delivered. No big deal. You are overreacting.

fallingintodeep · 07/09/2023 16:06

I think you could maybe visit your local police station and tell them your concerns. They will contact Royal mail for his details without him knowing, hopefully check his phone too. It may be nothing, but it may be something and after everything with Sarah Everard and other women, we just can’t trust everyone. Please tell your friends and partner for support . Take care and hope you’re ok

statetrooperstacey · 07/09/2023 16:20

their pda tells them when they have to take a photo , and then they have to take the photo . They don’t have a choice. They are also unable to access the photos afterwards. Only people who can view the photos are the co who sent the parcel/ letter, Royal Mail ( but not the postie ) and you should also be able to see it. Many letters now require a photo as standard , the ones with a 2d barcode in the corner certainly do. Also the posties can’t just take photos when they want to, as in they can’t use it as a camera, only when the device tells them to. They shouldn’t get your face in it tho . Also they don’t have to ask, or even tell you.

Onestepforwardseveryday · 07/09/2023 16:21

fallingintodeep · 07/09/2023 16:06

I think you could maybe visit your local police station and tell them your concerns. They will contact Royal mail for his details without him knowing, hopefully check his phone too. It may be nothing, but it may be something and after everything with Sarah Everard and other women, we just can’t trust everyone. Please tell your friends and partner for support . Take care and hope you’re ok

Where does it say he took the photos with his phone?
I am assuming he took them with his work PDA machine and any photos taken on that are accessible to the customer and the bosses at Royal Mail.
she can easily check what photos have been taken without going to the police

KrisAkabusi · 07/09/2023 16:21

fallingintodeep · 07/09/2023 16:06

I think you could maybe visit your local police station and tell them your concerns. They will contact Royal mail for his details without him knowing, hopefully check his phone too. It may be nothing, but it may be something and after everything with Sarah Everard and other women, we just can’t trust everyone. Please tell your friends and partner for support . Take care and hope you’re ok

Why would they check his phone? The OP has already said that he used his scanner/PDA, NOT his personal or even work phone. It has already been explained by four different people that actually deliver post, that this scanner CANNOT be used to take photos at random.

statetrooperstacey · 07/09/2023 16:23

also the police cannot just rock up at someone’s house and check their phone!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

housethatbuiltme · 07/09/2023 16:23

BashfulClam · 07/09/2023 15:39

Are you new to reading the OP and OP updates, was done surreptitiously and further updates are that it was normal mail! Try engaging your brain before your snide muscle.

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Except all the actual posties here have clarified thats actually impossible (trackable mail had to be scanned) and that he has no access to the photo so there would be no reason too either.

inamarina · 07/09/2023 16:28

Quiethowlsinluditebeck · 07/09/2023 15:38

They’re allowed to take a photo of an item of post, but not you. This is important, they should not take a photo of you. You should contact the local delivery office about your concerns, both the photo and in what he says, but you never know how he would react and he might be more than sleazy.

Have you a very attractive male friend or brother who could be there to open the door to the postman soaking wet, with only a small towel? He could shout “Don’t go anywhere, I’m coming back!” then wink at the postman.

It would be worth sending yourself a parcel so he knew when to be there for the parcel.

You could also post a few letters and sign up to a few companies using a male name. Hang a man’s coat in the hall.

Before anyone shouts at me, no we shouldn’t have to do things like this. I HATE the way some men treat us. But the OP needs to protect herself and these are some suggestions to try to get the sleazy postman off her back.

They’re allowed to take a photo of an item of post, but not you.

Err, but they do it all the time? Not a portrait exactly, but picture of me (or my husband) holding the delivered parcel/ letter.
Several other posters said the same on here.

Have you a very attractive male friend or brother who could be there to open the door to the postman soaking wet, with only a small towel? He could shout “Don’t go anywhere, I’m coming back!” then wink at the postman.

That’s quite bizarre… and also cringey.

User01020304 · 07/09/2023 16:30

A DBS is only as good as the day it’s done and just because someone has one it does not guarantee (unfortunately) that they could never/ would never act inappropriately.
See “down blousing” (opposite of upskirting), which is ‘a thing’, is also being criminalised and rightly so.

You can be curious and question this further without making allegations. You felt uncomfortable and it’s okay to explore this, a transparent organisation and/or person would accommodate and understand this.

mum11970 · 07/09/2023 16:34

SkinnyMalinkyLankyLegs · 07/09/2023 14:36

This. What a nasty world we live in.

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I’m another who agrees with this

toomuchforonewoman · 07/09/2023 16:44

FFS I doubt you are in his wank bank. Much ado about absolutely nothing

rainbowunicorn · 07/09/2023 16:49

fallingintodeep · 07/09/2023 16:06

I think you could maybe visit your local police station and tell them your concerns. They will contact Royal mail for his details without him knowing, hopefully check his phone too. It may be nothing, but it may be something and after everything with Sarah Everard and other women, we just can’t trust everyone. Please tell your friends and partner for support . Take care and hope you’re ok

Fuck sake I really hope you are not being serious. What an absolutely ridiculous suggestion. Talk about a mountain out of a mole hill

ExpressCheckout · 07/09/2023 16:49

I'm presuming OP also always

-Avoids CCTV e.g. visiting the supermarket
-Avoids social media of all kinds
-Avoids visiting people with video doorbells
-Avoids events e.g. weddings, where you don't know 95% of people there

Etc. etc. Unless you are living the life of a nun/monk, you simply cannot avoid having your photo or video captured by someone or something several times a day, and most of the time you have no idea what is being done with said image afterwards. At least on this occasion OP you know exactly who it was.

Please support the Royal Mail before someone, somewhere, decides that you no longer want or need it. Then it will be too late.

Mumuser124 · 07/09/2023 16:51

most delivery drivers take photos now. He sound friendly not creepy. You on the other hand..

TwilightBee · 07/09/2023 16:54

Absolutely ridiculous. I think you need to calm down and think about it a bit more logically. If he had taken a photo of you what do you think he was going to do with it? Have a wank in the back of the post van before he hands the device back in at the office? The handheld scanners they use don’t have the ability to email or texts photos and even if they did, everything is tracked so it would obviously be an instant dismissal. If it’s anything like ones I’ve used he most likely isn’t even able to open the photo once he’s saved it and clicked complete!

As for not liking him calling you love/sweetheart and your daughter a beauty, surely you should be aware now that many people refer to others with such names and it’s very normal.

I think you need to speak to someone about your paranoia and fear around men.

RamsesTheChub · 07/09/2023 16:55

I think it's quite normal (not pleasant, but normal). I assume they take photos of people at the door so people can't claim it was stolen after the photo of the item was taken. As for a man calling a young girl pretty/beautiful... lynch him.

Talk about overreacting

NumberTheory · 07/09/2023 16:55

Lorelielee · 07/09/2023 15:37

She doesn’t say he was an arms length away, she says she was approaching from across the garden when the photo was taken. How do you know she was an arms length away? @NumberTheory

Because she states in her very first post that he handed her the post. Which, unless he’s inspector gadget, would mean he wasn’t more than arms length away at that point.

I put this in my reply to you. Did you just ignore it as you did with the OP’s statement so you could stick to your narrative? Try reading with the intention of understanding what the OP is trying to say instead of with the intention of trying to find fault.

BlondeScarySpice · 07/09/2023 16:58

If it’s made you uncomfortable write in asking why your picture was taken today and they’ll tell you. However if you’re not 100% sure that your photo was taken you can’t really enquire.

Theoriginalmrscillianmurphy · 07/09/2023 17:02

Sounds like he was doing his job.

I don't find him creepy at all and I had lots of comments about one of my daughter's as she is an actual beauty.

Lorelielee · 07/09/2023 17:02

@NumberTheory No I read it all, that’s why I mentioned the story changed.

Yes you are correct she did state that in her first post.

In a further post she stated this however,

“He wasn’t. He turned and took a photo of ME, as I was approaching from the other end of the garden.”

So, as you can see and read yourself, it’s different. 😊

NumberTheory · 07/09/2023 17:02

LadyKenya · 07/09/2023 15:27

She was very precise about what he could supposedly see. A special gift that!

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Noticing that a camera is angled so that it can’t take a picture of your face but could potentially cover the rest of your body is hardly a special gift. Most people wouldn’t have much difficulty with that when they’re relatively close to someone.

Onestepforwardseveryday · 07/09/2023 17:05

User01020304 · 07/09/2023 16:30

A DBS is only as good as the day it’s done and just because someone has one it does not guarantee (unfortunately) that they could never/ would never act inappropriately.
See “down blousing” (opposite of upskirting), which is ‘a thing’, is also being criminalised and rightly so.

You can be curious and question this further without making allegations. You felt uncomfortable and it’s okay to explore this, a transparent organisation and/or person would accommodate and understand this.

She could question it by simply going online and looking at the picture that was taken.
if not happy with the photo then it is the time to take things further, but at this stage she just needs to check the photo as any photo taken with the PDA will be available for the customer to see.
no need for any major investigative work unless the photo does indeed show her boobs and body in a questionable way.
it might just show her feet with the parcels in the same shot or just the parcels on the step.

NumberTheory · 07/09/2023 17:06

Lorelielee · 07/09/2023 17:02

@NumberTheory No I read it all, that’s why I mentioned the story changed.

Yes you are correct she did state that in her first post.

In a further post she stated this however,

“He wasn’t. He turned and took a photo of ME, as I was approaching from the other end of the garden.”

So, as you can see and read yourself, it’s different. 😊

That isn’t a change in the story. You are making the assumption that “the other end of the garden” means she must have been a long way away. But that is your assumption. There is nothing in OP’s story that says she was a long way away when the photo was taken and there are indicators, from the very first post, that she was close.

Quiethowlsinluditebeck · 07/09/2023 17:09

Baconking · 07/09/2023 15:46

Answering the door in a small towel and winking at the postman is probably not going to put him off if already fancies her.

What a bizarre suggestion!

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It’s a shame you didn’t read my post before commenting. It’s bizarre. You wouldn’t believe how much it helps. I honestly thought everyone knew this!

For clarity, a ‘man’ and a ‘brother’ are people known as males and the word ‘they’ means someone other than the OP. The OP would be a ‘you’ as seen several times in the comment you didn’t bother to read.