Page 17 | I’ve withdrawn from organ donation register

Purpledogcollar · 2023-08-28T21:04:21+00:00

I give blood and have always been very pro organ donation. Sadly I have just withdrawn as protest against reproductive organ donation. I can’t support it and am very conflicted as would like to donate other organs. What are your views and is it a hasty decision (although not sure I would change my mind).

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 04:06

BillaBongGirl · 29/08/2023 04:02

That’s just heartbreaking. You are opting out of organ donation when doing so factually has no impact on a potential, future risk of your womb being taken and put in the body of a man without your consent.

You are, in fact, gambling with the lives of innocents, including women and girls to die, over fear of a future that has not yet come to pass. If the science did get there, it’d be in the news. If the rules changed, it must be publicly announced and put in the news. As you have a vested interest in this topic, you’d not be unaware if your fear one day became a reality. At that point, it would take you less than a minute to go an opt out. Why do it now? Just why?

It’s a pre-emptive strike that harms innocents who are among the most vulnerable and needy in our society. We need more donors, not fewer!

Between this potential future dystopia and now, you could be in an accident and you are literally denying your fellow human beings the benefit of everything other than your womb. Organs you’ve said you’d be happy to donate if it were not for this one fear.

I’m sorry, but I’m not buying the “blame the scientists and trans activists” line. You’ve made this choice. It’s one you do not have to make. Staying on the register doesn’t mean your uterus is up for grabs or risk it being taken, at all. It’s just a fear, a potential future risk that might not even happen.

Advocating a real risk of more deaths of the 4,000 odd waiting for an organ as pawns in a political protest over some future dystopian fear is not something I can ever support. It’s against every moral tenant I hold dear.

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I have addressed everything you've said, over and over again. It IS happening. Links I've provided prove this. Beyond a shadow of a doubt. And I hold no blame whatsoever, as I said, this is all at the feet of the trans activists who have been boasting for the last fucking week. And the scientists who did the studies specifically about trans women uterine implants. Solely 100% at their feet. Don't dare blame or shame me and the hundreds of other women who pulled out in the last week.

BillaBongGirl · 29/08/2023 04:06

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 03:44

Pink News themselves have said they expect the trans plants for trans women within 10 years. Scientists did surveys aimed at trans women to guage how willing they would be. THIS IS REAL! It's not some 'idea'. Trans people have been pushing VERY HARD for this, and they rejoiced last week.

Some people are so damned naive.

Ok, Pink News is hardly a reputable site firstly. And secondly, why deny organs for TEN YEARS?! If it becomes technically possible and legal to be done without your consent in ten years, opt out then.

There is no justification for a pre-emptied strike against innocent people who literally have months to live unless they can have an organ transplant over something that is at a minimum a decade away from maybe happening!

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 04:10

The people you should be furious at are the ones who pushed for this frankenstein-like thing, the scientists and the trans activists. Be furious at them.

BillaBongGirl · 29/08/2023 04:12

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 04:06

I have addressed everything you've said, over and over again. It IS happening. Links I've provided prove this. Beyond a shadow of a doubt. And I hold no blame whatsoever, as I said, this is all at the feet of the trans activists who have been boasting for the last fucking week. And the scientists who did the studies specifically about trans women uterine implants. Solely 100% at their feet. Don't dare blame or shame me and the hundreds of other women who pulled out in the last week.

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Sorry, but Pink News do not prove anything at all. And even if they were a reputable source, they still say it’s TEN YEARS away. That is not “it is happening” that is a prediction as in “it might happen ten years in the future”

You are fully responsible for your actions. You don’t get to shift responsibility off on others. If you feel shame, then that is because YABU.

I have no issue with people opting out of organ donation for real, present, current day concerns, but over a it might be in ten years that they could possibly do such and such without my consent? Yes I have an issue with that and as this is AIBU, so I get to say yes you and OP and everyone who agrees are BVU.

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 04:17

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 04:10

The people you should be furious at are the ones who pushed for this frankenstein-like thing, the scientists and the trans activists. Be furious at them.

I agree.

BillaBongGirl · 29/08/2023 04:17

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 04:10

The people you should be furious at are the ones who pushed for this frankenstein-like thing, the scientists and the trans activists. Be furious at them.

Uterus transplantation is an emerging therapy for absolute uterine factor infertility in females, a condition previously without direct treatment options. It is paramount that reproductive health care providers are familiar with the uterus transplantation process as more female patients seek and receive this treatment.

The scientists have done nothing but help infertile women. If you are furious with the scientists and trans activists, then why are you channelling that fury into gambling with the lives of people who need an organ transplant just to stay alive? Why not protest to the people you think are responsible instead of harming innocent bystanders? The child that needs a heart transplant, what do they have to do with it? The mother that needs a kidney? The teenager with liver failure? What did they ever do to you?

RantyAnty · 29/08/2023 04:20

Ridiculous.

By the time it ever becomes a thing, your reproductive parts will be shriveled up sultanas.

ElEmEnOhPee · 29/08/2023 04:20

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 04:06

I have addressed everything you've said, over and over again. It IS happening. Links I've provided prove this. Beyond a shadow of a doubt. And I hold no blame whatsoever, as I said, this is all at the feet of the trans activists who have been boasting for the last fucking week. And the scientists who did the studies specifically about trans women uterine implants. Solely 100% at their feet. Don't dare blame or shame me and the hundreds of other women who pulled out in the last week.

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I completely agree. Do not blame women, blame the men who are laying claim to our body parts whilst we're still fucking here! They've already taken enough from women as it is so they can fuck off if they think they're getting my body parts too. I haven't seen the latest influx of trans activists gloating this week but they were doing it a few years back which is when I opted out, I suspected they'd be over joyed at the latest news of successful womb transplantation.

There is NO reason why any man should need or want to give birth other than to validate their identity, why should my body parts be used to validate someone elses identity?! It's absolutely sickening. I also find it repulsive enough that babies are being used to validate men who wish to breastfeed, presumably that makes me a phobe too 🙄

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 04:22

BillaBongGirl · 29/08/2023 04:12

Sorry, but Pink News do not prove anything at all. And even if they were a reputable source, they still say it’s TEN YEARS away. That is not “it is happening” that is a prediction as in “it might happen ten years in the future”

You are fully responsible for your actions. You don’t get to shift responsibility off on others. If you feel shame, then that is because YABU.

I have no issue with people opting out of organ donation for real, present, current day concerns, but over a it might be in ten years that they could possibly do such and such without my consent? Yes I have an issue with that and as this is AIBU, so I get to say yes you and OP and everyone who agrees are BVU.

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You are determined to be willfully in denial. 10 years is not long at all. They need to experiment to get it right first. I feel absolutely no shame at all whatsoever. You don't get to shift blame onto me. I have no blame, no guilt and no shame. The ones who do are the quack scientists and trans activists. You are blaming the wrong person/people. I've said all this over and over and over and over again. You keep repeating yourself, you are not listening.

ElEmEnOhPee · 29/08/2023 04:23

I have no issue with people opting out of organ donation for real, present, current day concerns, but over a it might be in ten years that they could possibly do such and such without my consent? Yes I have an issue with that and as this is AIBU, so I get to say yes you and OP and everyone who agrees are BVU.

You should have no issue with anyone opting out of organ donation for ANY reason. My body, my choice. No one should feel ashamed or have people try to make them feel ashamed for exercising their right to bodily autonomy.

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 04:27

No one else gets to dictate what I do with my body or who gets my organs. And as it stands, particularly whilst there is no option to withdraw consent specifically for this, I will not be giving consent for anything else either. I'm not relying on friends or family to be in a position to make a decision on this. My wishes are known now.

BillaBongGirl · 29/08/2023 04:29

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 04:22

You are determined to be willfully in denial. 10 years is not long at all. They need to experiment to get it right first. I feel absolutely no shame at all whatsoever. You don't get to shift blame onto me. I have no blame, no guilt and no shame. The ones who do are the quack scientists and trans activists. You are blaming the wrong person/people. I've said all this over and over and over and over again. You keep repeating yourself, you are not listening.

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There is a difference between listening and saying YANBU and listening and saying YABVU. In my case, I’ve been saying the latter to you.

BillaBongGirl · 29/08/2023 04:34

ElEmEnOhPee · 29/08/2023 04:23

I have no issue with people opting out of organ donation for real, present, current day concerns, but over a it might be in ten years that they could possibly do such and such without my consent? Yes I have an issue with that and as this is AIBU, so I get to say yes you and OP and everyone who agrees are BVU.

You should have no issue with anyone opting out of organ donation for ANY reason. My body, my choice. No one should feel ashamed or have people try to make them feel ashamed for exercising their right to bodily autonomy.

This isn’t a question of bodily autonomy though. The poster has opted out of organ donation over a potential future that according to Pink News is at least ten years away. She has no issue with donating any organs that she would actually be consenting to donate by staying on the register.

She’s literally opting out to indicate her political protest because she thinks it will some how change the course of history to increase the chances of averting this potential future.

ElEmEnOhPee · 29/08/2023 04:38

BillaBongGirl · 29/08/2023 04:34

This isn’t a question of bodily autonomy though. The poster has opted out of organ donation over a potential future that according to Pink News is at least ten years away. She has no issue with donating any organs that she would actually be consenting to donate by staying on the register.

She’s literally opting out to indicate her political protest because she thinks it will some how change the course of history to increase the chances of averting this potential future.

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Of course it's a question of bodily autonomy! It doesn't matter what reason people have, if they don't wish to donate then that is their choice and is all that should matter. They shouldn't be shamed for that.

What if I opt out of sex for religious purposes and I meet a man, then he gets angry that I refuse to have sex with him and he tries to shame me and coerce me because it's only for religious purposes after all and he has needs, is that okay?

BillaBongGirl · 29/08/2023 04:46

ElEmEnOhPee · 29/08/2023 04:38

Of course it's a question of bodily autonomy! It doesn't matter what reason people have, if they don't wish to donate then that is their choice and is all that should matter. They shouldn't be shamed for that.

What if I opt out of sex for religious purposes and I meet a man, then he gets angry that I refuse to have sex with him and he tries to shame me and coerce me because it's only for religious purposes after all and he has needs, is that okay?

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Will the man die if he doesn’t get sex and are you the only match for him?

BillaBongGirl · 29/08/2023 04:47

My point being this is a little more serious than sex.

ElEmEnOhPee · 29/08/2023 04:50

BillaBongGirl · 29/08/2023 04:46

Will the man die if he doesn’t get sex and are you the only match for him?

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Whether people die or not is besides the point, should I be able to say no to him as it's my body or should he be able to take it simply because he wants it?

Do you donate every bit of excess money you have at the end of the month to charities that could save peoples lives? If not then why? Do you think it's selfish to withhold money that could save lives?

littleblackcat27 · 29/08/2023 04:57

The stupidity astounds me.

I work on a dialysis unit and believe me your kidneys are very much wanted.
Your uterus - not so much.

AngelAurora · 29/08/2023 04:58

Purpledogcollar · 28/08/2023 22:17

It doesn’t give me an option for reproductive organs but what if I forget that I have registered in a few years time. Can I trust that they will acknowledge this.

So dramatic OP, really no need for it. If your dead your dead, then it will be down to your family to consent, I hope you never need a transplant if you are not willing to help others once you have passed on. Give your head a shake

Nat6999 · 29/08/2023 05:07

Tacocatgoatcheesepizza · 29/08/2023 00:01

@Nat6999 was he not glad to have had some extra time though?

He was, but his quality of life was rubbish, the last year was frankly horrific. This all started because he injured his ankle playing badminton & the hospital gave him some antibiotics which attacked his liver. He lost his job, his home, was given 24 hours to live & had a transplant.

JaukiVexnoydi · 29/08/2023 05:19

Yabu - it's very easy to change your registration from 'any part of my body" to specifying which organs you are happy to donate. You can tick for heart, lungs, kidneys, liver, corneas etc but don't tick the all-encompassing "tissue" and then know that only those organs would be used and your reproductive organs are off limits. Make sure your NIK know your wishes.

Jamielikescheese · 29/08/2023 05:22

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Bingbangboo64 · 29/08/2023 05:34

Just wondering where are the feminists now, men are replacing women everywhere,in the sports,in womens clothes and make up
modelling, soon even in childbirth.

Murdoch1949 · 29/08/2023 05:40

Absolutely godsmacking that so many people have opted out of organ donation because it became opt out not opt in. Doctors still ask next of kin (which I'm against!) before they remove organs. I have zero interest in what happens to my body after death. If my eyes or skin or bones or whatever are needed by anyone they are so welcome to them. How dare people opt out, unless they sign a contract to say that they will never accept an organ for themselves or their children. It is so hypocritical to refuse to donate your own organs but accept a kidney or cornea for themselves or their dying child. Patients are dying every day because of a lack of organs, yet prissyness over wombs is a deal breaker! Really!?!

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 05:49

yet prissyness over wombs is a deal breaker! Really!?

Prissyness? Wow. The misogynistic language directed at women here is very telling...

But since you're asking, yes really. It's a deal breaker.