Toddler running indoors U or not?

[Onomatopoeiadoodle]

I live in a flat with downstairs neighbours. They are complaining about my (almost) 2 year old running indoors.

Do you think a toddler running indoors is unreasonable when you live in a flat, if so what can I do about it as we know toddlers lack impulse control and I can't leave him sitting in his play pen all day.

Any suggestions welcome

You seriously need to block this guy from contacting you and every time he bangs then I'd bang back. A small toddler running about is normal. I'd be contacting the landlord too about his harassing messages and his banging

I don't know who his landlord is unfortunately, I just know that we don't have the same one. I agree blocking his number is the right thing to do now as he's looking for an argument.

I don't know why he even felt the need to send that message this morning as the flat was silent at the time (just me awake having a coffee) and we had been out all day for the previous two days.

He's obviously spending a great deal of time seething about us and as he mentioned going to a funeral I think he's channelling his grief / upset in my direction.

Hey OP I had exact same problem and this resolved it
https://www.amazon.nl/-/en/Folding-Extra-Large-Waterproof-Portable/dp/B07GC13ST9#immersive-view_1692869503126
with a rug on top

Children running overhead is soul-destroying when there’s no soundproofing - I’ve been there and nearly lost my marbles.

HOWEVER, this man is a bully who is causing a noise nuisance himself. Report to 101 and don’t engage with him further. If you have a DP, let the DP deal with him.

Continue to try and minimise the noise but don’t self-flagellate to spare the feelings of someone who has no concern for yours.

Read the OPs posts and tell me she is in any way being unreasonable. A not quite 2 year old will have to make some sort of a noise, to think otherwise is bonkers. As long as you aren't allowing them to run around repeatedly smash bang jump excessively then I really see no issue. No idea what you are on about quite frankly, OP has to put up with his noise and a kid of this age will be in bed in the early eve. A little give and take is not too much to expect

Even WALKING makes a noise in some flats. Even walking fairly carefully too.

The fact is if you are this sensitive to noise you'll have a big problem with almost anyone that lives above you.

A toddler can make noise but what is unacceptable if the toddler is making these noises between 10pm-7pm.

7am plus I couldn't edit it

I had an extremely energetic toddler OP. We are lucky that we have a garden to “exercise” the little monkey in, but I can not imagine what it’s like to try and keep a toddler from running about during the day. Your neighbour sounds very unrealistic in his expectations, but then I’m guessing he’s not had much experience of small children. However it is not acceptable for him to be aggressive or threatening in his behaviour towards you- he is a bully! I would definitely report him to your local police community officer, make sure you keep any threatening or abusive messages.

Some of these comments on here are absurd about how it’s unacceptable for a toddler to run about in their own home. Seriously people get a grip, I think my neighbours are vampires- now that’s bloody annoying!

He isn't running around during those hours. If it was late at night or early in the morning I would understand but it's not and never is.

Thank you for this. Yes I don't think he has much experience with toddlers either.

I had a chat with a friend who works for the council and she said that a complaint about a 1 year old running at home would never be upheld if it was a council property and I should just ignore him now.

I might just start screaming every time he bangs on the ceiling or approaches me outside. If he thinks I'm totally nuts he might leave me be 🤪

Only half joking.

I'm intrigued about the vampire neighbours, how so?

@Onomatopoeiadoodle haha! my neighbours are as quiet as mice during the day when they’re home, but come nighttime they seem to “wake up”. They think nothing of cutting the grass at 10pm, or put a film on at 11pm or put the hoover around. Their kids will still be up running about until the early hours.
I envy people who live in detached properties!

I agree with your friend, I’d be very surprised if any complaints about a toddler playing were upheld. Tell him you’ve just found out your expecting triplets, then he might move!

@Onomatopoeiadoodle im sorry the mumsnet judgemental crew are out in force, but please please log these with the police. It is harassment. Keep them all but block his number. You do not need this and the police should be made aware.

if you rent you must also inform your landlord and managing agent.

if you own then you must inform the block management company.

your neighbours behaviour is not ok.

My children were taught to never run indoors.
(And not to jump on the bed, thump on the walls, shout loudly or screech and hit.)
They found it not difficult at all.
One doesn't run inside a shop or a school.
It is dangerous to run indoors - for the child, for others and for the furniture.

Your child will soon learn that running is not okay.
Always have soft slippers on your child indoors so that they make less sound when walking.
Have a thick rubber gym mat under any blocks or climbing frames to buffer sound and falls.

Children need at least two or three hours outside playing every day. Take your child to run free in the park. Walk to buy the bread and milk, walk the dog with the child, walk around the block, walk to school etc.
When at home having a bath, reading a book, doing craft, cooking with you, washing the dishes with you, sweeping the floor etc. are all busy tasks that young chuildren can have fun doing if your child has finished playing with lego, toys or wants something to do until they can run outside.
You can also teach your children to play card games..

Anyone who has hard flooring in a flat is beyond unreasonable and inconsiderate

OP ignore the keyboard warriors, it’s normal for a 2 year old to toddle around , sounds as if he isn’t suited to living in a downstairs flat and report his banging that’s antisocial behaviour

If you're already taking him out most days there's not much more you can do. Perhaps your neighbour could try and leave the house occasionally if they need to sit in the house all day in silence? 😁

Learning that the age of your neighbour is quite young has me thinking that he is ignorant of every day living.
How terrible for you to have to put up with agression.
Your baby seems like he is not unruly at all.

I would remove the neighbour from your apps and phone so that he can not send you abusive messages.
Talk to the Police if he continues to bang and communicate in an unreasonable way.

Is he a night worker who sleeps through out the day?

Is there one particluar room that he likes to sleep in that you can avoid walking over.
Suggest that he tries white noise - or could you have low radio noise? Would that buffer the sound?
Could you buy him some good quality earplugs to put in with note that you tell him about having contacted the Police.

Honestly I would tell your neighbour to piss off. Toddlers make noise. It's unfortunate for your neighbour but if he's not happy go live in a house not a flat🤷🏻‍♀️

You could buy the foam playmats and put them under the rugs they would probably take the sound away
sometimes people sell on fb as well
but otherwise he just sounds a pain if he has loud music

maybe keep a log of his behaviour towards you as well

Personally I'd say that a person intolerant of noise shouldn't be living in a downstairs flat with poor soundproofing as that's asking for trouble. Yes, yes, I know not all have the luxury of choice, but you have to accept that other people's noise might impinge on you and find ways to mitigate that rather than demand the impossible.

How can a toddler be expected only to run when out at the park? How can a parent ensure he never does so at home - strap him in a buggy maybe? So he screams to get out instead.

If you have done your best OP, then your neighbour is the unreasonable one. (My brother hates noise at home but he lives in a very quiet house now - he used to constantly complain about some previous neighbours at his last place.)

He’s harassing you! I would take the voice notes to the police and tell them that your feeling threatened. That’s shocking, I would also block his number and have zero interaction with him. Completely ignore him, you can’t stop your toddler making noise all day, you can limit it, I have a high energy 2 year old and he doesn’t make noise all day so he is being ridiculous

My toddler runs about and makes noise sometimes. I hear the kids running about above my flat sometimes. They are toddlers, as long as it’s daytime and not all the time, your neighbours are out of order. My brother had this issue where the neighbours kept banging on his ceiling from the flat above to be quiet so he confronted them with said child and was all lovely and they backed down lol. Toddlers especially can’t control themselves. Mine would not accept a play pen.

I’ve read your posts more and I really feel for you OP. I feel for you as my toddler is almost 2, I’m in a middle flat and I’d hate to be on egg shells in my home worrying about if he’s making too much noise constantly. Having a toddler about is already hard work, that’s making it harder. Shame on the posters suggesting you go out to the park 24/7 to keep this horrible man happy. It’s your home.

i’d be sending my DP to talk with him. Especially as one point he’s given you a sexiest comment. I wouldn’t even engage or acknowledge him after that. Alternatively there’s the police for harrassment. No you don’t have to inform him you’re telling the police.

Alright Mary Poppins.