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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask if you’ve got a big family how do you get by?

115 replies

Schnitzelvonkrummm · 17/08/2023 09:38

I guess Big is relative, but say 3 kids +. How do you afford it?

how do you holiday? And how much does it cost?

what’s your house like? Does each child have their own room?

i wonder if the majority of big families are on mega bucks (or so to speak) like 70k+ each? Then how do you have time for it all?

i was mindlessly scrolling on insta as you do and came across the Collins kids, 10 kids and open to more (now they philosophy behind it is a bit wonky to me but won’t get into that) and the mum was saying people assume that they have a mansion and are super duper wealthy but they aren’t, they are average and they just make it work and her husband works very hard. My guess is that they have to be a bit above average at least but still.

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AllTheChaos · 19/08/2023 20:37

Schnitzelvonkrummm · 19/08/2023 20:22

few posters have said they have a large family and a large family income, what do we define as a large family income here?

I know a couple of families on annual incomes of nigh on a million. I’d count that as ‘large’!

Nortam · 19/08/2023 20:41

Oh and we don't drink either which I'm sure saves us a lot!

Schnitzelvonkrummm · 19/08/2023 20:56

AllTheChaos · 19/08/2023 20:37

I know a couple of families on annual incomes of nigh on a million. I’d count that as ‘large’!

As would I!

but it’s interesting because some might describe as a household gross income of 100k large but others might put it more around just above average

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lifesnotaspectatorsport · 19/08/2023 20:58

We have 3 by accident (surprise twins). Both earn well but it was a tight couple of years when the twins were babies and I wasn't working. The credit cards got hammered and I didn't get on a plane for nearly 3 years (proper travelholic before that, including with DC1). We managed by living abroad (MUCH cheaper than U.K., lots of free outdoor stuff to do), cutting right back on our travel, and dipping into savings.

I went back to work full time when the twins turned 3 and that's got us back into a fairly comfortable lifestyle again. First proper family holiday abroad next year and hoping to go long haul the year after. However we're still abroad and that makes a big difference. In the U.K. I think we would be much worse off.

NeverEndingDays · 19/08/2023 20:59

No wealth would make me have more than 2/3. Not because of the younger years but because of the teen years. I have found that these years are the ones which require the most parental attention and emotional space. And that cannot be outsourced to a nanny.

Dramatic · 19/08/2023 21:23

We have 5 and DHs salary is good (somewhere around £55k) I don't work at the moment. We are able to send the kids to any extra curricular activities they want to do and we usually do a couple of parkdean weekends and one bigger holiday a year (we did a eurocamp in France this year that cost less than £1000)

We are lucky that we live in the north east and have a detached 4 bed house in a very good area that only cost £184k, I don't think that would be possible in most parts of the country and means that our mortgage is manageable.

gefling · 19/08/2023 22:00

We have 3 dc, which I wouldn't class as a large family - above average, but I'd think of at least 4 dc if I was asked to think what is a large family.

We're fortunate to earn well, household income £300k+. DH works ft and I'm a sahm with unearned income. We live in a 4 bed house in London and 2 dcs are in private school. No childcare needed although we've paid for some summer camp activities to keep them busy, and youngest isn't in school but we pay for lots of premium toddler classes and activities. We do lots of extracurriculars, eldest does 6, though most are just after school on site so not too tiring.

We go on a few holidays a year, usually going to the US every 1-2 years to visit family and one other overseas trip, plus short breaks to Butlins, city breaks etc. We spend a lot of money on leisure activities and entertainment - theatre, concerts, attractions.

We get a Tesco shop delivered weekly. Not much eating out though, the dcs aren't really interested in it.

OilOfRoses · 19/08/2023 22:54

NeverEndingDays · 19/08/2023 20:59

No wealth would make me have more than 2/3. Not because of the younger years but because of the teen years. I have found that these years are the ones which require the most parental attention and emotional space. And that cannot be outsourced to a nanny.

I agree that the teen years they do seem to need you even more. I've never found it a problem though. You just need to make sure you're available by making them a priority.

Dramatic · 19/08/2023 23:08

Avenueofcherryblossom · 19/08/2023 12:48

“we are just careful about how we spend and where we book”

Sorry, I’m not trying to create a pile on but just being careful is not enough to make £25k stretch to everything you are describing. You must be paying a fair bit every month on Merlin passes for 4 plus the two young ones.

Alton Towers being a couple of hours away from you means 4 hours of fuel for a large car to go for a day out.

The holiday lodge in France might be £600 but did that include travel and food costs? What about days out while there or did you just stay at the lodge for 10 days?

I don’t want others to feel like they are doing something wrong because they can’t afford regular expensive days out and holidays and presents by just cutting back on alcohol and cigarettes. Dropping a £6 bottle of wine from your weekly shop is not going to pay for the lifestyle you are describing.

Our household income is £55k, so after tax etc it's £40k per year. I'd imagine on 25k and with UC, child benefit and DLA on top they are probably coming out with not much less than we are.

AllTheChaos · 20/08/2023 01:43

I’m sort of assuming that anyone with a big house either has lots of money, inheritance, or is somewhere v cheap? I’d have loved more children but (a) partner left, and (b) knew couldn’t afford it even if he hadn’t. Eg am in a tiny two-up, two-down house with a minuscule bathroom, still cost more than half a million (which to me is loads and my mortgage is terrifying!) Three bed houses round here range from £700k for something actually pretty small, to £1m+ for a nice 3 bed semi.

OilOfRoses · 20/08/2023 05:20

AllTheChaos · 20/08/2023 01:43

I’m sort of assuming that anyone with a big house either has lots of money, inheritance, or is somewhere v cheap? I’d have loved more children but (a) partner left, and (b) knew couldn’t afford it even if he hadn’t. Eg am in a tiny two-up, two-down house with a minuscule bathroom, still cost more than half a million (which to me is loads and my mortgage is terrifying!) Three bed houses round here range from £700k for something actually pretty small, to £1m+ for a nice 3 bed semi.

None of those options applied to us. We did some extra jobs to earn extra money for a deposit, we knew we couldn't ever afford a house where we lived, so we moved two hours away from family to where we could afford a detached 5 bedroom house with garden (we built on an extra room later for six bedrooms) and filled it. Moving helped meet our goals without being too far from family.

Rollonsept · 20/08/2023 06:30

@Dramatic I agree.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 20/08/2023 06:44

We have 6. The age gap helps - the eldest 3 are all Uni age, the younger 3 are young teen, preteen and primary age. We didn’t plan to have 6 - the last two were conceived on the injection and coil! But we make it work.

We have/had three large advantages on top of DH being a high earner (he’s on 85k which I’ve been told before on here isn’t a high earner, but to me and where we live it is). DH was widowed and his wife’s insurance paid off the mortgage in his house and it was big enough for us all so when I sold mine to move in the little bit of profit went into creating more space here. So, even with building an extension we’ve had no housing costs for a long time. That makes a huge difference.

We have amazing family support. PIL used to collect the kids from school regularly, and grandparents all are the type that life spending time with the grandkids (MIL currently has DD4 away for the weekend for example) which massively helped with us having time with them individually.

Before I gave up work to care for our youngest due to her needs I worked in schools. So holiday childcare was never an an issue. And that saved a fortune - obviously my pay reflected it, but it still worked out brilliantly in logistic terms.

Dramatic · 20/08/2023 09:31

AllTheChaos · 20/08/2023 01:43

I’m sort of assuming that anyone with a big house either has lots of money, inheritance, or is somewhere v cheap? I’d have loved more children but (a) partner left, and (b) knew couldn’t afford it even if he hadn’t. Eg am in a tiny two-up, two-down house with a minuscule bathroom, still cost more than half a million (which to me is loads and my mortgage is terrifying!) Three bed houses round here range from £700k for something actually pretty small, to £1m+ for a nice 3 bed semi.

Yes you're probably right, we're in the north east and £700k would get you a huge house, like practically a mansion. In fact there isn't a single house in my town that's worth as much as that

Ladyoftheknight · 22/08/2023 16:42

Discussed this thread with a friend, especially 'big family income'. She said she thinks roughly minimum wage+5-10k per child.

That is still a low salary to us, we have 5 children so it would be 80k. That would be difficult but not impossible for us to live on, but our income is much higher.

It's all relative- some manage on minimum wage with 3+ children, others in the same situation end up in debt/ill.

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