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To go and spend the weekend with my friend under these circumstances?

108 replies

beyondtherebound · 17/08/2023 04:43

Used to have a FWB situation with a man over a period of about 5 years. It started as sex, but over the years, the benefits became very much secondary to the friendship, and he became one of my closest friends. We did sometimes get silly after a few drinks, but not that often in the end.

Then he got into a serious relationship and distanced himself. I've been there myself the other way around. So I was a bit miffed but I understood and was happy he was happy.

I haven't heard from him in 6 months and he called me out the blue to meet for a drink yesterday.

Turns out his GF had upped and left him over night, a couple of weeks back. He came home from a work trip and all her stuff was gone. It sounds horrendous.

Without a doubt he called me thinking a rebound shag would make him feel better (I don't judge him for that, it's very normal to want validation and intimacy a break-up) but instead I forced him to sit down and talk, and he ended up just pouring his heart out for hours. He's completely heartbroken.

I felt absolutely nothing for him except empathy and sadness as his friend. He'd clearly not had a good chance to talk it through with anyone and was so confused and in pain. He's not been eating or sleeping well. I've never seen him like this. Needless to say he didn't get anything from me except a lot of hugs and a listening ear.

He's got to go and cat sit for his parents in Devon for the weekend and asked if I'd go with him, as he was dreading being there alone.

I don't have anything else on and he clearly needs someone to drag him out the house for some air, make sure he eats some proper dinner and let him talk and cry and muddle through it all.

Our relationship has two such distinct sides to it though, that I'm torn.

The friend side of me feels like it's absolutely the right thing to do. He's very dear to me and he's in pain and I'd do it for any one of my female friends, even if they'd been a rubbish friend while they'd been loved-up. I have no doubt that just being there for some company and to make sure he's not wallowing, will absolutely help him get through the worst of it.

The side of me that used to sleep with him though, and knows he also thinks a rebound shag will make him feel better, feels a bit icky about it (although I've got no right to be self righteous about it as I've called on him for the same reason before).

I realise I don't have to sleep with him even if I do go, so it's not the act of it itself, but more just feeling that that part of our past makes it feel a bit less 'above board', to go and spend the weekend with him.

OP posts:
beyondtherebound · 17/08/2023 07:50

Ohyousillydivvy · 17/08/2023 07:17

Entirely separate from my own post, I absolutely love this post. I’ve had similar thoughts myself. Thank you for sharing.

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Myrtletheturtle2 · 17/08/2023 07:59

I'd go as I'd want to help and be there for him. Then again, I'm really soft and tend to get walked over.

Whataretheodds · 17/08/2023 08:16

Why do I get the feeling OP you'll end up cooking and cleaning for him all weekend?

Go if it's a weekend with a mate. Don't go as a nurse maid.

Londontown12 · 17/08/2023 08:34

What is wrong with being a good friend ?
everyone asking what is op getting out of it ?
Her friend is hurting he needs a friend be a friend Op and help him throu , he sounds like he is struggling and I don’t want to scare you but a lot of guys in this situation end up committing suicide I know from personal experience!
It’s one weekend be that friend x

BIossomtoes · 17/08/2023 08:37

I'd do it for any one of my female friends

That’s your answer. I wouldn’t think twice about going personally.

beyondtherebound · 17/08/2023 08:40

Londontown12 · 17/08/2023 08:34

What is wrong with being a good friend ?
everyone asking what is op getting out of it ?
Her friend is hurting he needs a friend be a friend Op and help him throu , he sounds like he is struggling and I don’t want to scare you but a lot of guys in this situation end up committing suicide I know from personal experience!
It’s one weekend be that friend x

Thank you. I didn’t want to put that out in the universe but it had also crossed my mind.

To be honest he didn’t even mention the break-up to me, he acted like nothing was wrong. Once I coaxed it out of him (because I’m not stupid….), he was clearly very very distressed, which shows how much he was trying to hold back.

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crumpet · 17/08/2023 08:42

If you go there is a chance he will
misread that into you being willing to have sex, even if he’s not consciously thought it through.

are you 100% sure you will Both be on the same page? If not it will only be worse for him having to endure awkward conversations on top of everything else. Or else you find yourself giving him a pity shag, which brings its own issues of consent.

the weekend away is likely to create more problems than it will solve

cheezncrackers · 17/08/2023 08:43

Would he do the same for you OP?

This friendship sounds awfully one-sided. He dropped you like a hot potato when he was with his ex, now she's fucked off and suddenly you're his security blanket. I know friends are there when times are tough, but would he be there if you were heartbroken and needing a shoulder to cry on?

Bristolnewcomer · 17/08/2023 08:43

No way would I go. I’d feel the temptation to go as a good friend but given that he’ll be hoping for/expecting to have sex (EVEN IF you both say it’s not going to happen), when you reject him it’s likely to make him feel worse, make you feel like shit, and sour the whole friendship.

He needs to be around friends he hasn’t got a complicated sexual history with at the moment IMO and you don’t need the drama that this could bring.

BIossomtoes · 17/08/2023 08:46

He dropped you like a hot potato when he was with his ex, now she's fucked off and suddenly you're his security blanket.

Very likely because his ex was like most of MN and gave him an ultimatum. But the question is a good one. If he’d be there for you @beyondtherebound, there’s no question that you should go.

Owjrbvr · 17/08/2023 08:46

Things to think about are do you want to shag him? Fine if you but if you don’t then rhat needs communicating to him.
Are you ok with it if it’s just a shag and you barely hear from him after? And if it goes back to your prior situation then are you ok with it if he distanced himself again in a relationship? I get why he did that but if it hurt then I’m not sure I’d put myself there again.

BrawnWild · 17/08/2023 08:47

The friend side of you is a mug.

He ditched you when you had no sex value (no doubt going to blame the other woman for being controlling or uncomfortable) and came running when it suited him.

I wouldn't have had him in the house after that, let alone let him pour his heart out.

The Devon weekend includes sex. I wouldnt even inform coffee with him after that, let alone spend a weekend mothering and shagging him.

Londontown12 · 17/08/2023 08:48

@beyondtherebound dont ignore your gut feelings !
from personal experience slightly different scenario but because u had to pry the info out I would say he is genuinely very hurt and struggling with his feelings .
He needs a friend x

Testina · 17/08/2023 08:49

He’s taking the piss.
You hadn’t heard from him in six months.
I’ve had FWBs that have also been friendships, and both parts wax and wane around other relationships.
But he ditched you for 6 months - you don’t have a friendship.
I also think if you don’t trust whatever friendship you think you have to say, “mate - no sex though” then it isn’t a real friendship.

The thing is, the sex part of FWB can definitely be mutually “using” each other, fine. But I don’t think it works, “using” someone as a friend. With sex, you get back too, that’s how it works. He’s taking all the friendship bonus here, and not offering you friendship back (because you know he didn’t care enough about your friendship to contact you at all in 6 months). I think it’s the fact he’s a friendship (emotional) user that’s given you the ick about sex with him - because you’ve realised with isn’t FWB. This is just B (sex and or emotional friendship support) for him - without the F for you.

You must have something better to do that pandering to his needs.

Murrain · 17/08/2023 08:51

Do you want to go, regardless of whether you feel you ‘should’ (or ‘shouldn’t’)?

beyondtherebound · 17/08/2023 08:52

cheezncrackers · 17/08/2023 08:43

Would he do the same for you OP?

This friendship sounds awfully one-sided. He dropped you like a hot potato when he was with his ex, now she's fucked off and suddenly you're his security blanket. I know friends are there when times are tough, but would he be there if you were heartbroken and needing a shoulder to cry on?

He has done the same for me in the same circumstances!

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Testina · 17/08/2023 08:52

@Hairobsessed123 “I don’t want to scare you but a lot of guys in this situation end up committing suicide I know from personal experience!”

Not fair to dump that responsibility on the OP, and I would challenge “a lot”. I’m sorry you have personal experience of suicide, but I doubt that one weekend away with someone that person hadn’t bothered with for 6 month, who already provided a listening ear, would have made the difference. You cannot suggest the OP runs around after this guy through fear and obligation, it’s really not fair.

Bristolnewcomer · 17/08/2023 08:54

Also he’s going to feed cats for the weekend - presumably he could say no if he was dreading it that much. Sure a neighbour could pop in.

not like he’s going to a family funeral or having an operation fgs

AnnieKayTee · 17/08/2023 08:54

Ooo Devon, you close to the beach? Make a mini holiday of it, two birds one stone and all that?

cheezncrackers · 17/08/2023 08:55

beyondtherebound · 17/08/2023 08:52

He has done the same for me in the same circumstances!

He has? Okay, well in that case you might want to do that for him. I'd make it clear from the outset though that the 'with benefits' part of your friendship is over - just to remove any expectation.

BIossomtoes · 17/08/2023 08:56

beyondtherebound · 17/08/2023 08:52

He has done the same for me in the same circumstances!

So how did it go? Did he try to get into your knickers while he was comforting you? Or was he simply a supportive and kind friend? Only you know your past history and the dynamic of your relationship and that’s what should guide your decision.

x2boys · 17/08/2023 08:57

Have you any attraction left for him?
Are you absolutely sure hand on heart that you wouldn't end up.having sex with him.after a few drinks etc ?
Honestly its up.to.you but I'm not sure I could do.it.

Iamclearlyamug · 17/08/2023 08:58

itsgettingweird · 17/08/2023 06:21

It's very clear for you this is friendship.

You sound a great friend and certainly would love a friend like you around during those heartbreaking times.

My reservation is that you are clear you care for him greatly as a friend.

But does he feel the same way as you as a friend? Would he do the same for you if the situation was reversed and wasn't getting sex in return?

I'd say the same if this was a female friend. Are you giving more of you than they would give back?

Absolutely agree with this 👌

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 17/08/2023 08:58

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noadvice · 17/08/2023 08:58

Go, be there for him, stay in separate rooms and at the end of the weekend he’ll have had a bit of company and cheering up and you’ll come out of it with a stronger friendship!