I have no words - woman now stranded after wanting to give birth in St Lucia (on the beach...)

[Nanny0gg]

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/uk-world-news/new-mum-stranded-after-being-8669669

What on earth were they thinking??

If she never was pregnant surely someone who knows her will pop up soon to say that she wasn’t.

I very much like your analogy @Testina

Their story has more holes than the proverbial Swiss cheese.

The article was 2016, 7 years ago, in it his age is quoted as 44, which I assume would be his age at the time of the article rather than at the time of the accident, so 7 years on from 44 makes him 51 surely.

If the daughter has another parent would you let them leave the country for at least six weeks during school term time so that your ex could have a vanity project birth?

Of course no. Cos well safeguarding and academic concerns.

The other parent putting their foot down and saying no to the 8 yr old going on their mad jaunt sounds very feasible, and the passport issue is being used by them as a convenient excuse. Though doesn’t explain why the 8 yr old is with (presumably) her mum’s sister and not the parent. Could be the other parent is working and can’t look after 8 yr old during school holidays hence the aunt being involved. And the parent isn’t going to the press about it as wants to keep themselves and their child out of the papers. All speculation on my part!

Yeah, I just had a stupid maths moment 🤣
I did say that newspapers are notorious for getting ages wrong anyway.
Based on the 192 info I think it’s the same Clive. Not to mention the coincidence in stupidity 😉
The 2016 report mentions a wife and baby - baby 7 years ago fits in with an 8yo child now.

@SuperSue77 see my reply on my maths mistake 🤣 I think the older child is his.

I doubt 24yo Kristina is Iuliia’s full sister, but these are newspaper reports, and who hasn’t grown up calling a rando “auntie”?!

She may be Iuliia’s cousin once removed, but auntie is an easier term to use. My 14yo has a 33yo cousin (my husband and I had children late, his much old brother started earlier than average) and even we sometimes say, “Uncle Tom” before reminding ourselves he’s not an uncle at all!

I wondered if I had missed a bit of vital info! The article was nearly a year after the accident as it says it happened in July (presumably the previous year) so the 8 yr old was probably a tiny baby at the time - but based on the current story I don’t think the presence of a tiny baby in his car would make Clive take any more care in his driving!
If this article was him then it would suggest the 8 yr old is his and them not sorting the passport renewal was true and just further evidence of their chaotic lives.

If this article was him then it would suggest the 8 yr old is his and them not sorting the passport renewal was true and just further evidence of their chaotic lives.

Or the child's mother has the passport. And perhaps a court order.

My 35 yo niece has a 4yo cousin (my other niece).
My sister is ten years older than my brother and had her kids in her twenties, he started in his forties.

Couple of dickheads.

Yea. My ds was born in an EEC country (think that's the correct letters!).

He is registered in that country and has a birth certificate from that country and the family book.

He has a British passport. Because me and his dad are British.

His dad had lived in that country since he was 18 months and permanent resident there.

It would if they just went without telling the other parent cos they knew they would refuse the passport. In which case it technically would be classed as child abandonment.

My thinking is that the daughter is hers but not necessarily his, hence staying with the mother’s sister. It could well be that the father is no longer around.

I expect they never intended to take the 8yo due to the difficult my of extended time out of school.
They sound like the kind of people who think you can find your perfect beach and then call, “Mother Nature, I am ready to birth my baby now”, and out they pop. So they probably only thought they’d be away 6 weeks. Which for some 8yo’s would be absolutely fine. Not many, but some.

Flabbergasted. Absolutely bonkers

I thought an ex wife or adult child of Clive would have come out of wood work but nothing as yet.

The baby if it’s theirs will be entitled to a British passport as they are British Citizens.
They just don’t appear to have considered the logistics.
So step one proof of birth. Normally just a form from the hospital.
Step two register birth and get birth certificate. The official website warns this takes 1-3 months to be issued.
Step three apply for first British passport for baby.

Even for an organised couple shit hot on paperwork it would take time.
I suspect they’ve made a half arsed attempt, haven’t got correct paperwork especially if surname changes by Clive and then have sailed off mid way through the process to another random country.

Clive-Same-Face-Different-Surname is offering 121 mindfulness and meditation sessions through the Insight Timer app.

They'd have to get a DNA test just to get onto step one of that ladder.

That would have to be sent off to somewhere abroad that had a lab wouldn't it ?🤦‍♀️

That’s interesting about the 1-3 months for a birth certificate even in normal circumstances @Dixiechickonhols

So I suppose it was inevitable that they would need an emergency passport?

I wish someone on MN could do an AMA on how that works! 🤣

Not the bog standard, “mine just got stolen in Tenerife” question - but like here, no proof of birth location of parenthood, no passport at all… I’m not surprised Grenada HC told them to sort a DNA test! I can actually well imagine them losing a few weeks to the St Lucian registration department filling in forms as best they could having no idea they won’t be accepted in this circumstance, and then coming back with, “more info needed” later. But just fucking off to Grenada instead… do you reckon it’s a one-way rental on the boat, and that’s why they continued? Got keys to return 🤣

Uh? 🧐
You know St Lucia has science, medicine, technology, laboratories, right?

Poor baby Louisa is going to have problems her entire life resulting from this irregular birth.

https://archive.stlucia.gov.lc/Government%20How%20To/how_to_register_a_birth.htm

It says at bottom about 1-3 months. Maybe there’s an expedited process in some circumstances.

The seem to have failed at first hurdle as hospital wouldn’t issue a form I as baby wasn’t born there and was more than 24 hours old when taken to the hospital.

They seem to have been offered dna test as alternative to the hospital form which seems sensible to me.

I'm veering towards drugs now. He appears to have form for risky choices and how are they paying for that boat? They appear to be too stupid to earn much money so it's coming from somewhere or someone is paying it for them.