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To think an autistic child should not be treated like this by the police?

449 replies

Immoralplant · 10/08/2023 08:10

I don’t know the background to this video, but at no point is there any suggestion by the police that this autistic teenager has done anything other than say words the police didn’t like.

I am absolutely shocked that this is happening in Britain.

IABU - that’s an appropriate police response to homophobic words
IANBU - those police officers should be sacked

Warning: the video shows scenes of an autistic teenager being hurt.

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drpet49 · 10/08/2023 14:05

BoredPandas · 10/08/2023 08:40

There must be more to this. I’m absolutely sick and tired of little snippets of videos that don’t show the true situation.

This.

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 14:07

OK so I’ve just seen West Yorkshire Police’s pathetic defence of this video.

It seems she was taken home after being pissed in town, then arrested for allegedly making a homophobic comment.

In view of that:

  1. I still maintain the female officer behaved appallingly
  2. what the actual fuck were six officers needed for?!
  3. Was an arrest and potential life changing consequences absolutely necessary? Who is that helping?

Would they be so keen to arrest an adult male thug calling a gay man a p**f? I highly doubt it.

Why do police get to be the only ones who ever get their little moment of justice and why are forces STILL not acknowledge they have a great big fuck off culture problem?

PandaExpress · 10/08/2023 14:07

DaisyAndDonaldDuck · 10/08/2023 13:33

Actions have consequences. Maybe she’ll learn to not be so rude in future. If this lesson had been taught earlier it needn’t have got to this point.

Yes, she should have been taught this before taking the role of police officer.
The consequences should be sacking, because she's obviously not cut out for the job, if she gets so angry and wound up by a teenagers words. No wonder the publics trust in the police force is at an all time low!

ZeldaFighter · 10/08/2023 14:09

The mum says "she's autistic" and the police officer says "I don't care." That's more of a discrimination and hate crime than anything the girl said.

There is no justification for ignoring the guidance of the parent on their child's health needs.

Disciplinary action should follow.

AmazingSnakeHead · 10/08/2023 14:12

Oh my god, so the girl was drunk as well?? I dread to think of the stupid shit I said to police officers while drunk as a teenager.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2023 14:15

This

I'll ask the same question I asked someone else to you both @BoredPandas and @drpet49 - what do you think would have made the police behaving like this ok?

54isanopendoor · 10/08/2023 14:17

I have 2 Autistic teenagers.

I'd not trust the Police anywhere near them. They dont' have ASD training.
Their Police training counteracts their common sense - that child was hitting herself in the head in terror in a corner - she couldn't communicate in that state.
The bad ones are vile disablist bullies in a uniform with no accountability.

My Ds had to fly recently. He wore an ASD lanyard & had credit card style 'ASD' warnings all over his luggage. He was 'pulled' at both airports & questioned as he looked 'odd'. Nothing bad happened but He is too scared to fly again.

I cannot imagine how this girl & her family feel after this assault by the Police.
For a Carer for teens with ASD it's a very upsetting watch & its not even my kid.
I hope the Police involved are dismissed as they are not safe around the public.

JanieEyre · 10/08/2023 14:29

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 14:07

OK so I’ve just seen West Yorkshire Police’s pathetic defence of this video.

It seems she was taken home after being pissed in town, then arrested for allegedly making a homophobic comment.

In view of that:

  1. I still maintain the female officer behaved appallingly
  2. what the actual fuck were six officers needed for?!
  3. Was an arrest and potential life changing consequences absolutely necessary? Who is that helping?

Would they be so keen to arrest an adult male thug calling a gay man a p**f? I highly doubt it.

Why do police get to be the only ones who ever get their little moment of justice and why are forces STILL not acknowledge they have a great big fuck off culture problem?

It seems clear that the allegedly homophobic comment was made in the girl's home. In which case, whether it was homophobic or not, the police had no power of arrest. On that basis, the police have committed assault, wrongful arrest, and a number of other offences. I hope they are being thoroughly investigated at this moment.

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 14:31

IamfeelingConfused · 10/08/2023 12:47

I think this has played out as it seems to - this blonde police woman should be sacked in my opinion - she should not have power over vulnerable people. She literally said she didn't care the child was autistic and clearly does not understand how autistic people can be very literal.

Then she was glaring at her having a melt down. It’s just cruel. And she was clenching her fists too

JanieEyre · 10/08/2023 14:33

DaisyAndDonaldDuck · 10/08/2023 13:33

Actions have consequences. Maybe she’ll learn to not be so rude in future. If this lesson had been taught earlier it needn’t have got to this point.

How do you teach autistic people not to be autistic? Can you use the same techniques to teach, say, people with amputated legs not to be so limbless?

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 14:34

AmazingSnakeHead · 10/08/2023 14:12

Oh my god, so the girl was drunk as well?? I dread to think of the stupid shit I said to police officers while drunk as a teenager.

Same - when I was younger police officers weren’t so much trumped up little saddos with a bullying agenda though

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 14:36

Re police these days - it’s a rule of my house the at police officers are not allowed in unless we have called them personally or if they are arresting one of us in which case they’d have to break the door down.

Not that we ever commit crimes - but my distrust of the police is so profound that I wouldn’t even want to be friends with one let alone deal with one in their role.

alloalloallo · 10/08/2023 14:38

The mum says "she's autistic" and the police officer says "I don't care." That's more of a discrimination and hate crime than anything the girl said.

I agree. “I don’t care” is an appalling response and I hope the officer faces disciplinary action for that.

As a mum of an autistic teen, this stuff terrifies me. My DD also has Tourette’s and unfortunately her tics can sometimes be racial/homophobic slurs, insults, offensive and inappropriate. It is a disability, she is completely devastated by it, hates these things that sometimes come out of her mouth that she has absolutely no control over. It’s so scary to think what could happen

Beachwaves127 · 10/08/2023 14:39

The older I get the more sceptical I am of the police. Who is holding them accountable? Are they just on power trips? Has the power gone to their head? These are general questions I have - not just based on this video.

alloalloallo · 10/08/2023 14:42

54isanopendoor · 10/08/2023 14:17

I have 2 Autistic teenagers.

I'd not trust the Police anywhere near them. They dont' have ASD training.
Their Police training counteracts their common sense - that child was hitting herself in the head in terror in a corner - she couldn't communicate in that state.
The bad ones are vile disablist bullies in a uniform with no accountability.

My Ds had to fly recently. He wore an ASD lanyard & had credit card style 'ASD' warnings all over his luggage. He was 'pulled' at both airports & questioned as he looked 'odd'. Nothing bad happened but He is too scared to fly again.

I cannot imagine how this girl & her family feel after this assault by the Police.
For a Carer for teens with ASD it's a very upsetting watch & its not even my kid.
I hope the Police involved are dismissed as they are not safe around the public.

Sorry to hear he had such a hard time.

We book passenger assistance when we fly with DD. On the whole it’s been brilliant, especially getting someone who is ticcing about bombs and drugs through security.

DD finds it really reassuring - I don’t know whether it may help your DS if he ever has to fly again.

cansu · 10/08/2023 14:45

It really looks like the police officer was annoyed by the teen and lost her temper. What should have happened was one of the others should have stepped in to calm things down. They could have come back the next day to discuss her language or whatever but clearly the best thing would have been to walk away once the teen was back home. Calling someone a lesbian should not be an arrestable offence. Surely the police should have a higher threshold than this for a drunk kid with autism?

PowerTulle · 10/08/2023 14:49

I hope the poor mother is able to follow this up with a legal representative. The police have indeed incriminated themselves with their own public statement!

“after returning her to the address, an arrest was made on the suspicion of a public order offense”

Idiots.

BoredPandas · 10/08/2023 14:49

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2023 14:15

This

I'll ask the same question I asked someone else to you both @BoredPandas and @drpet49 - what do you think would have made the police behaving like this ok?

At the end of the day it’s a snapshot of the situation. I’m certainly not going to make assumptions on what happened/didn’t happen. If you’re looking for an argument fuck off else where and quote others.

TinkerbellefromYorkshire · 10/08/2023 14:51

I could only watch a little bit. I was crying.. l have four teenage GS with ASD.. I'd take those cops to the highest authority l could.. it's disgusting.

lordloveadog · 10/08/2023 14:51

Police officers who can't cope with rudeness from a drunk autistic 14 year old girl shouldn't be in the force.

She was released without charge - because being a bit rude isn't a crime. And as PPs pointed out, saying someone might be a lesbian isn't even an insult.

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 14:52

BoredPandas · 10/08/2023 14:49

At the end of the day it’s a snapshot of the situation. I’m certainly not going to make assumptions on what happened/didn’t happen. If you’re looking for an argument fuck off else where and quote others.

Do you think it’s ok to discriminate against disabled children? Because by saying “I don’t care [that she has autism]” that’s exactly what the officer was doing

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2023 14:59

At the end of the day it’s a snapshot of the situation. I’m certainly not going to make assumptions on what happened/didn’t happen. If you’re looking for an argument fuck off else where and quote others.

So you don't have an answer for what would make it ok for the police to do that then. How surprising.

Legoroses · 10/08/2023 15:05

If you're not looking for an argument, I'm not sure making baseless statements that there's some mystery circumstance that creates an arrestable public order offence inside a private home, and then telling everyone to fuck off, is the most agreeable way of using this message board.

Legoroses · 10/08/2023 15:07

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 14:52

Do you think it’s ok to discriminate against disabled children? Because by saying “I don’t care [that she has autism]” that’s exactly what the officer was doing

Precisely. There is law about discrimination on grounds of disability - being demonstrably not applied by the police officer. There is no law about saying things inside your own home.

DdraigGoch · 10/08/2023 15:10

The very concept of "hate crimes" and "hate incidents" which are purely based upon perception (and not necessarily even that of the supposed victim, third parties can report stuff too) remind me of Orwell's thought police.

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