I am so over pronouns.

[TheDogAndDogAtCrutchley]

I don’t care if I never hear another pronoun again. It’s not like they’re moving grammar along nicely now, is it?

Volunteering pronouns is inclusive of the transgender community, which is why it bothers people like OP.

I recently visited a free women's legal service in a professional capacity and their practice is to use their pronouns (she/her- it's an entirely female organisation) in all publications and on their website as a way to reassure women that when they seek legal advice they will be speaking with a woman.

Other people on this thread have also mentioned other reasons why pronouns can be useful, for example if you have a unisex name.

Unfortunate if it bothers you, but it benefits many and costs nothing. Try not to get your knickers in a twist about it.

Other people on this thread have also mentioned other reasons why pronouns can be useful, for example if you have a unisex name.

They can do what they want of course, but if I had a unisex name, there's no way I'd put pronouns in, for example, an email signature. There are benefits to people thinking you're a man.

I'd actually assume that would mean I may not speak with a woman, but end up with someone identifying as a woman. If they make it clear they are a female only organisation, using the biological definition, then there's no need for the pronouns

@timetorefresh

This organisation found by and for women, who have successfully helped thousands of vulnerable women over decades obviously disagrees with you. 🤷‍♀️

But surely the whole point of using pronouns is with regards to the user’s gender identity.

So people can’t automatically assume that, say, the refuge employees are biological women.

I can think of one place where a senior person would use she/her in relation to a service that biological women would want to feel safe - doesn’t make it true though!

To the question in general. I would never be deliberately rude. I will refer to a chosen name, or use they as an alternative. But that’s to be polite. I don’t have the headspace to constantly try to “correct” multiple preferences.

I thank my luck everyday that my company does not engage in this rubbish . People will look back in time and think my god the 2020's were weird , what were those people thinking .

What, an organisation like Rape Crisis, that does foist men identifying as women on female rape victims, and tells them they need to reframe their pain to accommodate this? You sound very naive. Liberal feminism has been at the forefront of radical transgenderism.

Sorry @SunRainStorm you've shown your naivety on this subject, Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre is even run by a trans idenitifed man who doesn't even have a Gender Recognition Certificate. https://www.ercc.scot/welcome-to-mridul-wadhwa-our-new-ceo/
Rape crisis centres are all open to men.

It is.

I, me, he, him, her, she, it, we, us, you, they, them.

Thank Miss Waterworth, my second year English teacher who had us recite them almost daily.

YANBU… although they are a useful indicator of complete idiots who shouldn’t be listened to.
Pronouns in bio…ignore your opinions on twitter, etc.
When I’m shopping for art, crafts, independent stores…pronouns in bio and I won’t buy from you. It just indicates that you follow the crowd and don’t think independently. The opposite of what I’m looking for.

Teaching a whole bunch of gullible people that they can’t trust their own eyes is very harmful!

Third person pronouns are (or have been) sex based. This new system that tells us (with wide, innocent eyes) that you can’t tell who is male or female unless you ask them is harming people, and is putting children at risk of safeguarding failure.

We’re already in a position where certain self identified “feminists” will wax lyrical about men and the patriarchy, whilst simultaneously inviting men into our spaces, and changing our language to include them in everything, even spaces they should have no access to.

We have a cohort of young people who seem to genuinely not know what sex is, and why single sex spaces exist, thanks to the breaking down of clear language, and the screams of transphobia at anything remotely fact based.

Volunteering pronouns is inclusive of the transgender community, which is why it bothers people like OP.

It is the same as stating if you voted leave or remain. It is a political statement and no one needs to know.

reassure women that when they seek legal advice they will be speaking with a woman.

Meanwhile back in reality women know that this means no such thing.

A woman declaring her pronouns is down the gender ideology route so far that she cannot respect many women’s needs to have male free spaces, either that or she’s a man.

If I was seeking legal counsel (or anything else) I would avoid pronoun people like the plague. It represents an ideologue very uncomfortable with.

I am ignoring it all until it goes away.

This

wait so you They/Them everyone ?

I don't understand this post at all. Pronouns have always existed, it's just that people are a bit more proactive in how they use them/ask for them to be used.

My thoughts are - My pronouns are non of your fuckin business, if you don’t know we aren’t close. I’ll call you whatever floats your boat.

I use sex based pronouns.
Using preferred pronouns messes with my autistic brain and causes more grief that it’s worth.

I reject anything gender.

I just think when people state their pronouns it's a statement of where they sit on the great gender wars divide.

Either that or they're a complete sheeple.

Either way, it puts me off engaging with them.

🤣🤣🤣

Forcing people to say their sex-based pronouns is just silly.

It's plain to most people what a man or woman is and looks like, regardless of how they want to present to the world.

If someone asks me for my pronouns (it has happened, I work for a woke public sector organisation,) I say, ,"What do uou think they are?" My name gives it away, as does my face, my shape, how I dress...

My immediate reaction to any statement of pronouns is "Oh, grow up".

It will pass and sensible people will look back with incredubility.

She/they

I know someone who uses she/they.

Im convinced she does this to deliberately provoke people to get it wrong.

The whole pronoun thing was never more than attention-seeking nonsense. Honestly, who had the time?