Overreaction about glue gun incident at school

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https://www-thesun-ie.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.thesun.ie/news/8810155/furious-mum-school-son-burn-glue-gun/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16912722078861&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesun.ie%2Fnews%2F8810155%2Ffurious-mum-school-son-burn-glue-gun%2F

Resulting in a teacher misconduct hearing
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/teacher-misconduct-panel-outcome-ms-sarah-mead

No wonder more and more staff are unwilling to do activities and trips. If the slightest thing goes wrong there will be a petition at the school gates and a public hounding

If the child is injured it becomes a priority, where did you read that the boy refused to go to medical ?
He should have been told he HAS to go to medical and if he refused his mum should’ve been phoned to remove him from school
you don’t just shrug your shoulders and leave the child in pain
maybe if they didn’t give the primary school kids glue guns in the first place then they could have avoided accidents like these

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5368862/

A NICE endorsed piece of research on moist (petroleum ie Vaseline) based dressings for burns

It's in the report that he refused to follow instructions.

School may have been slow or wrong in how they responded. That does not make running off to speak to the paper than libelled those at Hillsborough in April 1989 an acceptable response.

i didn’t read that part but so what?? He’s a child, the adult has to make the decision for him , and like I said if he really was adamant that he didn’t want to go to medical for whatever reason , they should have called his mum to collect him from school
I really don’t believe they were insistent on him going to medical,
im imagining that they asked him if he wanted to go to medical and he refused, like most children do , and then they dropped it after that
It’s pathetic

It was the end of the day. He didn't TELL his teacher - another child did. He refused to SHOW his teacher, another child pulled his hand away where he was covering it up. He was asked to go to medical and refused. He was asked to run it under the cold tap and refused. Was it not already hometime, she would have had other options EG involving the office but you can't keep a child back at hometime who refuses treatment.

The teacher would have had 30 children to see off and was then handling an urgent safeguarding matter involving vulnerable children.

Presumably, this teacher planned to call home and log it immediately after school but was caught up with the CP issue and then forgot. It could have happened to anyone.

Teacher should have done more to prevent this in the first place.
Teacher should have acted in accordance with protocol after the injury had happened.
Parent overreacted majorly.

Teacher couldn't win if had spent 15 mins getting the number of parent, arguing with child to go to medical then:-

Late for duty- Safeguarding not doing your job.
Didn't deal with serious DSLissue- Safeguarding not doing job.

What happened? Same thing.

Pulled too many ways. No time.

Im very glad about that, but it is completely, mind blowingly insane that this became a professional conduct issue.
Yes, silly mother we’re very sorry but no, silly mother, we are not taking any steps against this teacher, and we don’t care which tabloid tag you run to. End.

Quite. She took a sensible view of what the real priorities were. That’s life. If the mother doesn’t like it, tough.

Sorry, @punjana but in the study you’ve posted (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5368862/)
the Vaseline was used in the control group, not the moist dressing treatment group which used Mepitel/Mepilex. So the study actually is one of many showing Vaseline is not good for burns:

“The treatment group received a moist dressing in the treatment of burn wounds and the control group adopted iodine gauze or Vaseline gauze coverage. Wound healing effect and the impact on the degree of pain of in the two different treatment methods were observed after treatment. The results of 42 patients were included in the analysis. The average healing time of patients’ burn wounds in treatment group is (10.9 3.3) d, and the average healing time in control group is (13.8 3.6) d, so, the difference is significant (P<0.01). Wound pain in the treatment group is significantly lower than that in the control group (P<0.01). Using moist dressing (Mepitel and Mepilex, etc.) in the treatment of burn wounds, wound-healing time can be shortened and wound pain can be reduced significantly.”

Yes I do know, but on a website with laywomen mums it’s usually best to use terms more commonly understood than a deep dermal burn- which is the old 3rd degree burn. A full thickness burn is a 4th degree burn.

It wasn’t listed in the notes as a diagnosis, but an impression so not the notes of a doctor.

I’m giving my own opinion, I think the hospital were wrong about the burn. It is clearly not a superficial burn. It is a minor burn overall because despite being a severe burn (deep dermal) it covers less than 1% of his body.

Just wanted to say this interpretation of the way the medical report was written is absolutely, completely and utterly wrong.

You clearly have no really understanding of what you're talking about, so just stop.

The mother is an absolute disgrace. She should be ashamed of herself.

There was no formal medical report.
The bits being quoted are from a hospital clinical summary sheet.

Mother is totally in the wrong. Waiting for a payout obviously. Terrible example to her child.

Anyone would think that you were actually there - you're so adamant about how it was handled.

Still have a scar now from a glue gun burn at school. It hurt, I think I went to the school nurse, I'm almost certain they did not call my parents. No big deal.

We used soldering irons, glue guns and heat presses from year 6. I didn't think I was that old, but apparently I am. Are these all a big no no now? Not that i would blame the schools, tbh.

She was busy dealing with a serious safeguarding concern at home time and wasn’t able to tell the mum at the end of the day because the mum didnt pick her child up. Seems like the mum thinks hes old enough and sensible enough to walk home alone but not to use a glue gun without being smothered!

That’s not what the hospital report says. It says its a superficial burn.

I do understand the mum’s complaint as she should have been informed straight away regardless of what the teacher had to do. What I don’t agree with is going to the media and social media BEFORE giving the school a chance to rectify the issue.

Madness all around. Why are they even using glue guns in primary school?

You forgot to add that the boy was told earlier not to use the glue gun as the teacher had not at that point demonstrated to his group how to use it. He was in another group in a different room and went himself into the room where the children, who had been shown how to use a glue gun safely, were working.

A burn caused by a glue gun is about as minor as it gets. Would you also ban knives and fire used in Forest school, or ovens used in cookery lessons, or candles used in birthday cakes?