To wonder why the FUCK this guy isn’t in jail?!

[AngeloMysterioso]

A man has been given an 8 month suspended sentence after bashing the crap out of his 15 year old daughter with a metal bar. Apparently he did it because she’d committed the heinous crime of wearing make up to school… which she’d put on to cover up the bruises from previous times he’d bashed the crap out of her. Two years of abuse this child has endured at his hands.

But because this poor kid gave a statement asking for leniency, saying SHE feels guilty because SHE has brought shame on her family, he’s basically got away with it.

AIBU to think this man is a violent criminal who belongs in prison?!

(Daily Mail link, sorry but it was that or The ☀️)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12372633/amp/Father-battered-daughter-metal-bar-school-meet-boy-GCSE-exam-jail-mercy-plea.html

“Adapt to new cultural behaviour expected of him” ... implies there is a cultural justification for violence against women and children when it’s disgusting violent men exploiting the system to be disgusting and violent

There's already another thread on this, but the above ^^ was doubtless his defence lawyer's intention - as in it's cultural, so don't dare to act decisively or we'll label you a racist too

The greatest pity is that it works, but in the end does nobody any good at all, least of all the countless decent muslims who, as in Rotherham and the rest, will be just as horrified as everyone else

I sadly feel she will either disappear to another country or worse

Very likely, yes

At what point is another lesson learnt ACTUALLY learnt from them

It won't be, at least as things stand now, because "sensitivities" are held to be more important than protecting everyone else, the daughter included

"Alinzi who has since had to move out of his family home in Fallowfield, Manchester faced jail after he admitted assault occasioning actual bodily harm". At least he has moved out.

The fact the girl presumably for cultural reasons thinks her brother needs her father there is a pity. I think islamic law gives mothers rigts of residence with boys only to age 11 or something like that (and girls 13) and after that the father has them if parents part. The daughter and judge think he has changed his ways as he went on a parenting course. That is probably very unlikely.

Absolutely.

It's this ridiculous PC culture we live in where we're scared to apply our own laws in case we get called 'racist', 'fascist', homophobic' etc.

He’s going to end up killing her. Hopefully, one day, before he goes too far, she will realise that asking for leniency isn’t worth it and allow the courts to throw the whole book at him. Unfortunately I think she’s too afraid to

He won't kill her @Soubriquet, that'd be too obvious. Someone else will do the job for him. Just give it a bit of time and she'll have 'gone to visit relatives in Pakistan'.

I was appalled when I read this today . What message does it give about the way women and girls are treated by men . I think it should be referred to the attorney general or whoever as being unduly lenient

I knew exactly who you were talking about before I even opened the thread. It's disgusting, the fuck are these old fuckers on?

At least he has moved out

Good luck with that, Xenia. Even if it's true - and I'm a bit "hmmm" since his defence claimed he was his wife's main carer - just how much resistence do you suppose there'd be to him moving back in if he wished to do so?

I'm not aware if staying away has been made a condition of his suspended sentence, but even if so a return would probably be swept under the carpet judicially, and that's in the no doubt unlikely event the family reported it ... after all he's "been on a parenting course" so must have taken it all onboard, right?

It makes me so cross when people come here for a better lifestyle but still want to carry on their archaic beliefs. They should learn to live by our values or stay in their own countries, there is no place for some of their cruel behaviours.

14 different sites of injury including facial bruising and was also treated for a bite mark to her left temple.

I can't imagine the sort of ferocity of attack which would result in biting someone on the temple. Jesus fucking Christ.

AutumnCrow
Members of the public can contact the Attorney general and ask a sentence to be referred to the Unduly Lenient Sentence scheme. Or you can ask your MP to do it, asap

Bumping this.

Thanks, I wasnt aware. Can we all do this please? Its just a few minutes of our time. I haven't clicked on link, I'm too much of a softy. But even reading this thread has upset me greatly. Condoning child abuse? In 2023, at that?

We have no-one.

She was wearing make up to cover the previous bruising he inflicted 😢

Jesus fuck, how is he still walking the streets.

How dare the judge accept cultural adjustment as an excuse for this vile monsters behaviour.Talk about set a precedent for using this excuse.

He should have been imprisoned regardless of the victim or her family's expressed wishes, and he should be allowed nowhere near any one of them in future.

He will continue to behave exactly as before.

That poor girl. I also wondered if it was deliberately timed attack on day of her English gcse - without a pass in that her prospects of getting on a college course or job were limited making it easier to keep her home and control her.

Is there anything we can do? Anywhere we can complain? MPs etc... I feel awful for her...

That judge should never be allowed to practice again.

You can email the office if the attorney general and ask them to review the sentence under the unduly lenient sentence scheme. I have just done it and it only takes two minutes.

Poor poor girl, it's very worrying what will happen to her now.
There's no excuse of culture none, the dark mark on his forehead is a. " look at me how much I pray" symbol. Sadly it seems a lot of this behind closed doors.

This makes me want to weep.

I am from a similar culture, though had a vastly different upbringing. Parents never laid a finger on me, I married my white boyfriend 20 years ago etc without issue.

How the hell is this ok? What does this teach the Neanderthals that don’t respect women or girls?? That statement was not without coercion, spoken or implied. That poor poor girl. She needs to be in a refuge and receiving therapy. She is clearly terrified. That man needs to be in jail. Local community leaders need to say this is unacceptable.

So many girls must be in this position right now. It makes me furious. Come to this country and be shocked when your kids want to adopt local norms..what do you expect?? Though in this case the girl hadn’t even done anything ‘wrong’. Monster.

Ffs I despair.

Oh FFS there are cultural differences ( which is fine ) and then there is the law - and the law says you do not hit , bruise , bite your daughter. Bullying her about her friends - not sure where that stands but this man has got off too lightly I think ( but I am not a lawyer . ) I suspect his family are a bit scared of him so I only hope he will be very much monitored. And that the family will receive some help as to how to deal with him

am an expert in neither , but Goodness sake This man I think need a very strong lesson and not sure if this is it. I am sure the judge had a reason but it feels too lenient .

I don't know what exact culture he is from but the men and women of that culture should be up in arms about this. The idea that a conservative culture means you can hit your daughter and bite her in the face and that is what men will do unless they are reeducated- it is a racist attitude

There should be outrage from everyone about this but especially from the culture he is from - utter outrage demanding that he be locked up.

That poor girl. The judge is a fool.

It's disgusting. What about when she does start going out with boys, and wearing make up, he will end up killing her.