Could you be with a partner who doesn't believe in climate change?

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DH doesn't really think it's all that bad. He thinks we should be recyling more and caring for the planet as makes sense and is just the right thing to do - but that climate change as a disaster is an exaggeration and not based in science. And that people are utilising it for their own agenda, woke brigade & so on.

We have young kids.

AIBU to find this position increasingly problematic?

People are going to say people are allowed different opinions but he seems geniunely unconcerned about future of planet for our kids - and I find that hard to swallow.

Not really given that we're now highly unlikely to keep warming below 1.5 degrees

so how was then all the ice melted? the ice that used to connect UK with mainland Europe, for example? If you really want to analyse data properly, look at the change in temperature not just the absolute, just a hint from someone who does this for living :-) Data interpretation is quite a science by itself and can be very misleading

spot on

The consequences of giving up fossil fuels, restricting people's movement for most ordinary people and making women's lives especially more difficult are dire.

this could well be. I am certain that the consequences of NOT giving up fossil fuels will be far worse. I’m pretty sure having a climate that food can actually grow in, and that we can have enough fresh water to drink, is fairly essential. And for those that think “oh it will be ok here”, again that may well be but what do you think is going to happen when North Africa and then southern Europe’s crops fail? It will be a thousand times worse than the “small boats” issue we are currently dealing with.

But, not so long ago, there were a lot of predictions that temperatures would raise by more than 4 degrees, which is when things start to become truly apocalyptic.

Since then, significant efforts have been made to reduce global warming. Even if efforts stagnate, that leaves us looking at (most likely) - a 3 degree increase.

That is still very, very bad and every effort should be made to limit that increase.

We are not going to achieve the best case scenarios. We have probably avoided the worst outcomes. We are left with a range of likely outcomes that are between ‘bad’ and ‘really awful’, but ‘absolutely horrific’ is likely off the table. Unfortunately, so is ‘not bad’.

But doomism doesn’t help. The more urgently we take serious actions the better, and doomism doesn’t tend to breed positive action, just increasing nihilism.

Totally agree when everyone's eyes turn towards the small, grey rock that still has plentiful fresh water and summers haven't yet reached 50 degrees.

also waiting for responses on this.

It's a different question to the one asked by the OP, which was about climate change. (The climate's always changed and always will, nothing to do with us)

Shoesonthefloor is asking about the environment and pollution (completely different thing to "climate change") and this is where I think we need to differentiate.

We (not you and me but TPTB) do not give a toss about the environment. They are destroying the environment in the name of "climate emergency".

I actually care VERY MUCH about the environment, about pollution, about the loss of habitat, about the destruction of so much that is natural in our world.

So when trees and hedgerows are ripped out to "plant" rows of solar panels in fields it enrages me. Those solar panels will be in landfill in ten years, they can't be recycled.

If they care about the planet they would plant MORE TREES to absorb Co2, but no, they destroy habitat instead.

Tis a destructive and ungodly way to behave.

Truly shocking what a limited grasp of science, scientific method and critical reading/thinking many posters display. A profoundly sad outcome of the dismal state of education in the UK.
Sounds like OP’s DH may be on a slippery slope to becoming a nonsensical conspiracy theorist. Q-anon followers begin with such ignorant claims. I could NOT be with someone like this.

BTW has anyone heard from the Maldives yet?

They must surely be making plans to evacuate, right? From their six newly-built runways constructed at sea level.

(I don't think any of you know what "lowest, flattest place on earth" actually means and the implications, or what even sea level means in this instance, in fact I know you don't)

End of the day that's his opinion as is your opinion yours, and in reality there is nothing ordinary joe public can do about it as damage was caused years and years ago and big oil and fuel corporations don't give a toss. I noticed it in 1976 but who am I. The best contribution he is offering it to continue recycling because mother nature got fed up decades ago. I defo wouldn't put climate change before my relationship and my family.

Exactly

@EmilyBrontesGhost what does TPTB mean?

The Powers That Be

The people who runs things. Governments, big business, big banks etc.

Planting billions of trees would likely help in the long term but, given that is takes forests about 100 years to grow, it simply isn’t a realistic stand alone strategy. It might even lead to further warming in the short term.

(The above is a tad trite but it’s a complex issue - https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2927/examining-the-viability-of-planting-trees-to-help-mitigate-climate-change/ )

Why did you choose to have kids if you’re worried about climate change out of interest?

Question specifically for the OP (although I’m sure some arseholes won’t be able to stop themselves from replying).

I think this is a crazy and actually irresponsible stance to take. Listen to the UN speech today. Read real science from non biased sources. Climate catastrophe is real. It's hard enough to swallow that so many people in the few countries most responsible for this (and who suffer the least at the moment) won't even make small changes to their lives such as eating less meat, but it's even worse when they spout nonsense in a way they think sounds authoritative to seemingly prevent others from making changes. They outlawed Holocaust denial. They should outlaw climate catastrophe denial too. People are already suffering and dying in less well off countries. And I bet we as a nation won't be accepting climate refugees! Bloody shameful and immoral.

What predictions have been wrong? Corporations have been doing the pollution yes They are doing so to create items that contribute to our standards of living. The climate change motto: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. It's a model. We're so focused on the recycle part that we forget the 1st Reduce consumption should come first.

Shocking and sad to see how many ill informed people there are. This is a real emergency, there is no doubt.

The thing with outlawing beliefs of certain types is why have democracy then, why if the science is accurate and the data is accurate why would beliefs against climate change be needed to be outlawed, surely the facts would speak for themselves

Have you spoken to the Maldives yet?

What did they say?

I remember the fallout from Chernobyl, excuse the terrible pun. It would be inhabitable for thousands of years and all the wildlife would die, etc etc. In fact the wildlife flourished and it became a tourist attraction in less than 30 years. My point is scientists do guess a lot, they are human and get predictions wrong. Do your bit for the planet and be environmentally conscious but don’t wreck your life over it. I am reading a lot of comments from people that are quite mentally ill with anxiety and seem to get a kick out of frightening vulnerable people.
Also for the love of God stop calling people who question climate change or vote differently to you ‘uneducated’ The only people who sound thick are the people who disregard other people’s opinions as uneducated. You sound nasty and deeply unpleasant. When I read pious comments it makes me want to take an extra flight and burn some fossil fuels just to spite you. Dismissing people as uneducated is not the way to engage your audience.

I agree with this ^^ and also, try and visualise a good future for your kids and focus on being in the moment and enjoying them grow up, neither of you really know what is actually going on and no one here does too so I’d not even worry about it, do your bit like we all do because it feels right but I wouldn’t let this cloud your love for your dh, I’d actually find it very attractive that he’s not letting it phase him into negativity but that’s my opinion.

I was meant to quote this, I’m tired 😴 and in pain and mistakes happen 🤷🏻‍♀️

What a stupid question, do you want to divorce him because he holds different views. It is called tolerance