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Important Issue: Cafes that butter your toast

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SunRainStorm · 22/07/2023 11:57

What the fuck is with cafes that butter your toast for you?!

I fucking hate it.

I always say 'no butter please' or 'butter to the side only'. Only for my toast to come, more often than not, soggy and DRIPPING in butter, to someone else's idea of an ideal butter to bread ratio.

Butter is such a personal thing. When they do it for me it just fucking ruins my toast.

Sometimes I send it back, but DH hates it when I do.

AIBU?

Yes there are bigger issues in the world but I can't do much about Putin or COL or climate change.

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Abhannmor · 22/07/2023 14:25

Hard disagree. Fed up wrestling with frozen cubes of butter while my tea and toast get cold. Keep yer teabags too. Gimme the finished article I paid for !

oviraptor21 · 22/07/2023 14:26

NoHallSouth · 22/07/2023 13:32

I feel like this with cold fizzy drinks. The waiter brings a glass with some ice and pours the drink half in for me. Just straight in. It all fizzes up and goes flat instantly. I like to tip the glass and pour slowly so it keeps the fizz.

I always stop them doing it now and I usually get a funny look.

I don't care though- I don't like hot drinks, don't drink alcohol so the one drink I do like, I like to taste right!

I'm also totally in agreement with you on the butter! Don't get me started on butter and ketchup in a bacon bap as well. Its one or the other. Not both.

Disagree about the fizzy drink. It really makes no difference to the fizz level when drinking - although I don't buy 1 litre plus bottle for this reason and can always tell when a pub or restaurant is dishing drinks out from a big bottle.

But I do agree about butter and ketchup in a bap. DH's family always butter their hot dogs. I've had to be really insistent with them that I don't want butter on mine.

ginasevern · 22/07/2023 14:28

I agree with a pp. I hate it when I order eggs on toast and they haven't buttered the toast. How the hell are you supposed to remove the eggs without making the dish look like a car crash. I can't imagine many people would want dry toast with poached/fried eggs on top.

NeedToThinkOfOne · 22/07/2023 14:33

Lwrenagain · 22/07/2023 13:46

I'm ready for the negativity this comment will bring my way and I'm emotionally prepared for the hate.

Cold toast with real butter is the best way to eat it.
I still use my victorian nana's toast rack 🙈

I'll see myself out.

You’re with friends @Lwrenagain I 100% agree with you. I’m sitting on my hands now to stop me posting about the way it arrives (only one foil portion for more than one piece of toast, are you kidding me?) and what ‘butter’ is served (leave the premises immediately if Flora is produced as the ‘butter’ element).

Rainbowshit · 22/07/2023 14:36

@Wenfy

No excuse for the cutting up. But most people outside of white brits mix the sauce with the pasta as it’s more flavoursome.

What is the purpose of the word "white" here? 🤔

Rainbowshit · 22/07/2023 14:37

@Ellie56

Does she have small children

Her children are older than mine and at this point in time they were teenagers! 🙈

SunRainStorm · 22/07/2023 14:40

butterpuffed · 22/07/2023 14:20

I always say 'no butter please' or 'butter to the side only'. Only for my toast to come, more often than not, soggy and DRIPPING in butter, to someone else's idea of an ideal butter to bread ratio.

You're going to the wrong cafes then ! I hate hot milk with a vengeance , and always ask for an americano with cold milk on the side . Whichever cafe I'm in , they bring out to the table/give me at the counter a tiny jug of cold milk .

Great name.

I agree, but it seems to happen no matter which cafe I go to. Maybe it's too loud and they just hear 'butter' and assume I want butter?

I hate it. I like to have Vegemite on toast and IMO butter makes it taste creamy and not sharp.

This is a British forum so I won't even get started on the atrocity of someone else spreading your Vegemite for you.

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FudgeSundae · 22/07/2023 14:42

Opposite. Places that serve avocado toast or poached egg in toast are the worst.
Me: Can I have butter on my toast please?
waiter: oh yes, I’ll bring some on the side.
me: no please could I have it on the toast?
waiter: looks horrified but you can put it on the toast?
Me: no thank you, I don’t want to scrape off the avocado/egg, butter the toast then put it back.
waiter: oh I’ll check with the kitchen.
(then, more often than not)
waiter: sorry we can’t do that.

Gives me the absolute rage. A fucking restaurant can’t butter toast when asked?!

SunRainStorm · 22/07/2023 14:47

NoHallSouth · 22/07/2023 13:32

I feel like this with cold fizzy drinks. The waiter brings a glass with some ice and pours the drink half in for me. Just straight in. It all fizzes up and goes flat instantly. I like to tip the glass and pour slowly so it keeps the fizz.

I always stop them doing it now and I usually get a funny look.

I don't care though- I don't like hot drinks, don't drink alcohol so the one drink I do like, I like to taste right!

I'm also totally in agreement with you on the butter! Don't get me started on butter and ketchup in a bacon bap as well. Its one or the other. Not both.

Wandering from my own topic now but I HATE when you order a bottle/s of wine at a restaurant and the waiter goes around topping you up without asking.

It's so easy to lose track of how much you have drunk when you aren't choosing to have another glass yourself.

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JudgeRudy · 22/07/2023 14:47

For me things like salt, butter, jam, gravy etc are very personal. One man's skimpy is another's drowning...but I get why its done at source.
However if you've requested the butter separate and they don't deliver that you're perfectly entitled to requestca replacement. Scraping butter off does not work.

SunRainStorm · 22/07/2023 14:51

JudgeRudy · 22/07/2023 14:47

For me things like salt, butter, jam, gravy etc are very personal. One man's skimpy is another's drowning...but I get why its done at source.
However if you've requested the butter separate and they don't deliver that you're perfectly entitled to requestca replacement. Scraping butter off does not work.

Thanks that's what I think.

It's not like I'm asking them for a complicated meal to be re-cooked from scratch. I literally just want them to put a fresh piece of bread in the toaster and then bring it to me plain.

DH finds it mortifying though 🙈

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finewelshcheese · 22/07/2023 14:58

YABU. I hate getting those little rock hard butter packets and trying to spread it on lukewarm toast.

SunsetOverParadise · 22/07/2023 15:09

Lilacshade · 22/07/2023 13:16

I only like cold toast and it must be stone cold before butter is applied. The very idea of melted butter on warm toast is wrong.
In our family if you don't need a spoon at the end there isn't enough gravy.

Finally, some sense. This! The butter has to be creamy on top of crunchy toast, not an oil slick seeping through the bread and making it soft. Gross!

mondaytosunday · 22/07/2023 15:27

Goodness I don't think I've ever had toast that was already buttered and certainly not tea with milk in at a café. But I agree with you - I want to decide how much myself.

GellerYeller · 22/07/2023 16:50

Not ideal but if the toast or your drink is warm, you can briefly hold the frozen foil packs of butter (assuming they’ve brought more than one, don’t get me started on that) against the cup to soften it. Or put it between two slices to warm then unwrap. Briefly though, otherwise it melts.
While we’re on toast issues: those hotel toasters where you stand and watch it go round then come out slightly warmer than it went in, or send it back through again to burn. No. Just stop. There’s all the pressure of the queue eyeing you up if you take too long, plus you have to put it on a plate, not a rack, so it’s sweaty underneath not crisp.

MereDintofPandiculation · 22/07/2023 16:52

Robyn847 · 22/07/2023 14:20

But if you're going to make a butty why cut the bread at all? Slice of bread. Filling on. Fold in half. Not difficult. Doing it that way even keeps Pot Noodle in there. Butties, toast, whatever......I DON'T NEED IT CUTTING!!

If you're doing lots of them, it's quicker to slap another piece of bread on top and cut. And if it's being done by machine, it's easier to get a machine to add second slice and cut than it it to get it to fold (with the possibility of disturbance to the contents).

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MereDintofPandiculation · 22/07/2023 16:59

mondaytosunday · 22/07/2023 15:27

Goodness I don't think I've ever had toast that was already buttered and certainly not tea with milk in at a café. But I agree with you - I want to decide how much myself.

In the "bad old days" of British Rail, my commuter train into London did absolutely beautiful (ready buttered) toast. A nice way to get ready for the day ahead.

EsmeGythaMagrat · 22/07/2023 17:05

I’d be straight round at yours too - the breakfast of champions that!

EsmeGythaMagrat · 22/07/2023 17:05

EsmeGythaMagrat · 22/07/2023 17:05

I’d be straight round at yours too - the breakfast of champions that!

Sorry that was meant to quote @Lwrenagain

ErrolTheDragon · 22/07/2023 17:07

If you're doing lots of them, it's quicker to slap another piece of bread on top and cut. And if it's being done by machine, it's easier to get a machine to add second slice and cut than it it to get it to fold (with the possibility of disturbance to the contents).

And then I think it takes 2 sandwiches off the same side for a portion to shove into the triangular package not both halves of the same sandwich.
But I'm not sure something made by machine deserves to be called a 'butty'.Grin

youveturnedupwelldone · 22/07/2023 17:11

I feel like this about people putting milk in my tea. I can get very distressed if people impose their milk ratios on me. These days I send it back as I always specify milk on the side please.

Robyn847 · 22/07/2023 17:15

MereDintofPandiculation · 22/07/2023 16:52

If you're doing lots of them, it's quicker to slap another piece of bread on top and cut. And if it's being done by machine, it's easier to get a machine to add second slice and cut than it it to get it to fold (with the possibility of disturbance to the contents).

I'm sitting in a café wanting a bacon butty. I mean, I know I eat a lot but they're not going to need a machine to keep up with my consumption. 🙄

Toadsnotfrogs · 22/07/2023 17:18

My favourite cafe is under new ownership and they used some sort of marg on my toast instead of proper butter, on the side.

The dirty dirty bastards.

decaffonlypls · 22/07/2023 17:25

I like my toast slightly cooler so the butter sits on top I'd definitely ask for on the side