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Important Issue: Cafes that butter your toast

124 replies

SunRainStorm · 22/07/2023 11:57

What the fuck is with cafes that butter your toast for you?!

I fucking hate it.

I always say 'no butter please' or 'butter to the side only'. Only for my toast to come, more often than not, soggy and DRIPPING in butter, to someone else's idea of an ideal butter to bread ratio.

Butter is such a personal thing. When they do it for me it just fucking ruins my toast.

Sometimes I send it back, but DH hates it when I do.

AIBU?

Yes there are bigger issues in the world but I can't do much about Putin or COL or climate change.

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Irequireausername · 22/07/2023 12:57

No I prefer them to butter my toast, I cba and would rather just eat straight away.

Hufflepods · 22/07/2023 12:58

I think it’s fine. You can’t butter toast properly 5 mins later when it’s already gone cold.

Wenfy · 22/07/2023 13:00

Rainbowshit · 22/07/2023 12:21

YANBU.

I hate folk messing with my food. I remember when a friend served us spaghetti Bolognese and not only had she mixed in the sauce, she had cut up the pasta. I nearly sent it back. 😉

No excuse for the cutting up. But most people outside of white brits mix the sauce with the pasta as it’s more flavoursome.

FixTheBone · 22/07/2023 13:05

Lovehearts82 · 22/07/2023 12:44

Ooooh this might be a polarising topic to mix or not to mix spaghetti pasta and bolognaise 😜
I Always mix some of the sauce into the spaghetti first and then put it in the bowl/plate then pour on more sauce. I grew up with it not being mixed, just spaghetti then sauce on top.

I was thinking the same about this being a divisive issue.

I make it with sauce on top of the pasta - but I think it's definitely legit to make it mixed - something to do with finishing cooking the pasta in the sauce you're using.

My thoughts are if you want it to be just like you have at home - don't eat out at a restaurant - one of the best things about eating out for me is seeing and tasting different ways of doing things.

SweetAndSourChick3n · 22/07/2023 13:10

I would much rather the toast came already buttered, otherwise you have to try to spread solid butter onto cold toast. I hate cold toast.

I would serve spag bol with the sauce on top of the spaghetti but expect people to mix it themselves before eating.

Lilacshade · 22/07/2023 13:16

I only like cold toast and it must be stone cold before butter is applied. The very idea of melted butter on warm toast is wrong.
In our family if you don't need a spoon at the end there isn't enough gravy.

SunRainStorm · 22/07/2023 13:16

SweetAndSourChick3n · 22/07/2023 13:10

I would much rather the toast came already buttered, otherwise you have to try to spread solid butter onto cold toast. I hate cold toast.

I would serve spag bol with the sauce on top of the spaghetti but expect people to mix it themselves before eating.

Is it asking too much for them to bring the toast when it's warm?

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Azaeleasinbloom · 22/07/2023 13:17

I like my toast crunchy, so I prefer to butter it myself when it’s slightly cooler. I also like toast triangles because it’s easier for me to eat without getting butter and crumbs on my chubby cheeks.
DH , thinner face, total opposite - butter-soaked toast cut as rectangles. We argue about this frequently. It’s important stuff.

NoHallSouth · 22/07/2023 13:32

I feel like this with cold fizzy drinks. The waiter brings a glass with some ice and pours the drink half in for me. Just straight in. It all fizzes up and goes flat instantly. I like to tip the glass and pour slowly so it keeps the fizz.

I always stop them doing it now and I usually get a funny look.

I don't care though- I don't like hot drinks, don't drink alcohol so the one drink I do like, I like to taste right!

I'm also totally in agreement with you on the butter! Don't get me started on butter and ketchup in a bacon bap as well. Its one or the other. Not both.

Ellie56 · 22/07/2023 13:36

Rainbowshit · 22/07/2023 12:21

YANBU.

I hate folk messing with my food. I remember when a friend served us spaghetti Bolognese and not only had she mixed in the sauce, she had cut up the pasta. I nearly sent it back. 😉

Shock Does she have small children @Rainbowshit ?

Lwrenagain · 22/07/2023 13:46

I'm ready for the negativity this comment will bring my way and I'm emotionally prepared for the hate.

Cold toast with real butter is the best way to eat it.
I still use my victorian nana's toast rack 🙈

I'll see myself out.

Azaeleasinbloom · 22/07/2023 13:48

@Lwrenagain Oh , can I come to you for breakfast. I am willing to bet you make great tea too.

Robyn847 · 22/07/2023 13:50

SunRainStorm · 22/07/2023 12:34

@Robyn847

I'm not British but a British person told me that triangles are the 'posh' way of cutting toast - is that right or where they pulling my leg?

But yes I agree with you. Hands off my toast!

That's the other reason it annoys me!! I'm working class and proud, and the poshness of it makes me itch.

(Although I will admit, traingle toast is reasonably acceptable these days, it's gradually crept into greasy spoon cafs by stealth; its triangle bloody sandwiches that are offensively posh!)

MereDintofPandiculation · 22/07/2023 13:54

Robyn847 · 22/07/2023 13:50

That's the other reason it annoys me!! I'm working class and proud, and the poshness of it makes me itch.

(Although I will admit, traingle toast is reasonably acceptable these days, it's gradually crept into greasy spoon cafs by stealth; its triangle bloody sandwiches that are offensively posh!)

Sandwich triangles are because you can put a blob of filling in the centre, cut it across the long diagonal, and make the sandwich look like it's well filled.

And also because half a slice cut diagonal looks bigger than half a slice straight across the middle.

Riapia · 22/07/2023 14:06

Toast should be buttered the instant it comes out of the toaster.
Not after it’s been carried across the kitchen and definitely not in the minutes it takes to get to a table.

Lwrenagain · 22/07/2023 14:11

Azaeleasinbloom · 22/07/2023 13:48

@Lwrenagain Oh , can I come to you for breakfast. I am willing to bet you make great tea too.

Absolutely you can! Real butter and Yorkshire Gold tea!

MenopauseSucks · 22/07/2023 14:13

I like to butter my toast myself in a cafe.

HOWEVER if I'm having a bacon roll/sarnie then I do like it if they butter the bread before adding the bacon!

liveforsummer · 22/07/2023 14:17

Rainbowshit · 22/07/2023 12:21

YANBU.

I hate folk messing with my food. I remember when a friend served us spaghetti Bolognese and not only had she mixed in the sauce, she had cut up the pasta. I nearly sent it back. 😉

My friend snaps the pasta before cooking. She's lucky I like her in other ways 😅

wutheringkites · 22/07/2023 14:18

Lwrenagain · 22/07/2023 13:46

I'm ready for the negativity this comment will bring my way and I'm emotionally prepared for the hate.

Cold toast with real butter is the best way to eat it.
I still use my victorian nana's toast rack 🙈

I'll see myself out.

Fully agree with this.

Nowfreefromangst · 22/07/2023 14:18

Yeah hate this, but that's because I'm lactose intolerant, so butter doesnt agree with me 😦

ArcticLadybird · 22/07/2023 14:19

Problem with them buttering it is that you don’t know if it’s proper salted butter or revolting margarine/spread Envy

Robyn847 · 22/07/2023 14:20

MereDintofPandiculation · 22/07/2023 13:54

Sandwich triangles are because you can put a blob of filling in the centre, cut it across the long diagonal, and make the sandwich look like it's well filled.

And also because half a slice cut diagonal looks bigger than half a slice straight across the middle.

But if you're going to make a butty why cut the bread at all? Slice of bread. Filling on. Fold in half. Not difficult. Doing it that way even keeps Pot Noodle in there. Butties, toast, whatever......I DON'T NEED IT CUTTING!!

butterpuffed · 22/07/2023 14:20

I always say 'no butter please' or 'butter to the side only'. Only for my toast to come, more often than not, soggy and DRIPPING in butter, to someone else's idea of an ideal butter to bread ratio.

You're going to the wrong cafes then ! I hate hot milk with a vengeance , and always ask for an americano with cold milk on the side . Whichever cafe I'm in , they bring out to the table/give me at the counter a tiny jug of cold milk .

oviraptor21 · 22/07/2023 14:21

Wenfy · 22/07/2023 13:00

No excuse for the cutting up. But most people outside of white brits mix the sauce with the pasta as it’s more flavoursome.

Except that it's not. If you have the two components served separately then you have three flavours - plain pasta, plain bolognese, or a mix of the two. Much nicer than slogging through a big bowl of the mix.

In general I prefer to be left to decide my own amounts and serving method of things like butter, custard, gravy. But toast is a tricky one as it can get cold quickly, so I wouldn't be too bothered if it was spread for me - as long as it's butter.

ErrolTheDragon · 22/07/2023 14:24

Is it asking too much for them to bring the toast when it's warm?

Toast cools so quickly though.

The thing that's really annoying is when both the unbuttered toast (or teacake or whatever is cold and so is the butter.