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Woman jailed over (very late on in pregnancy) abortion, released on appeal...

143 replies

FadeAwayAndRadiate · 18/07/2023 19:09

Carla Foster: Mother jailed over lockdown abortion to be released - BBC News

So should she have been released? Or made to serve her sentence?

YABU, no she should NOT have been released.

YANBU, yes she SHOULD have been released.

Interested to hear people views.

Royal Courts of Justice

Carla Foster: Mother jailed over lockdown abortion to be released

The Court of Appeal reduces Carla Foster's sentence for illegally taking abortion tablets.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-65581850

OP posts:
Sweetashunni · 18/07/2023 19:10

No I don’t think she should have, for many reasons.

SeulementUneFois · 18/07/2023 19:10

Barbaric that she was in prison.

Her body is her body. Full stop.

Bananaandpecan · 18/07/2023 19:11

I dont think she should have went to prison in the first place and I think she should have remained anonymous.

FrivolousTreeDuck · 18/07/2023 19:12

There is a thread on this already: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4851885-carla-foster-being-released?reply=127737193

Sweetashunni · 18/07/2023 19:12

SeulementUneFois · 18/07/2023 19:10

Barbaric that she was in prison.

Her body is her body. Full stop.

So all forms of prostitution should be legal? And we should be able to pay homeless people to fight for entertainment?

BiscuitsandPuffin · 18/07/2023 19:13

What are YOUR views op and why didn't you just air them on the very long thread on this that's been discussed all day?

BlairWaldorfOG · 18/07/2023 19:14

Right decision she should have been shown support and compassion and should never have been in custody.

Ponoka7 · 18/07/2023 19:14

I thought that the custodial sentence was right. I think that this is a case were the judges are privy to information that we aren't and are going on points of law. Morally I don't think that there's any difference between her and someone whose baby dies by neglect. They don't always go to prison.

Toddlerteaplease · 18/07/2023 19:16

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caringcarer · 18/07/2023 19:16

She knew what she was doing. She should be punished.

Skinthin · 18/07/2023 19:16

Sweetashunni · 18/07/2023 19:12

So all forms of prostitution should be legal? And we should be able to pay homeless people to fight for entertainment?

What?! 😳🙈🙈🙈

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Sweetashunni · 18/07/2023 19:17

Skinthin · 18/07/2023 19:16

What?! 😳🙈🙈🙈

If you should have complete autonomy over your own body and choose what you wish to do with it regardless of what society sees as acceptable, then the logical extension of that is that those things should also be legal?

Ponoka7 · 18/07/2023 19:18

Sweetashunni · 18/07/2023 19:17

If you should have complete autonomy over your own body and choose what you wish to do with it regardless of what society sees as acceptable, then the logical extension of that is that those things should also be legal?

Bare Knuckle boxing and individual prostitution isn't illegal.

Skinthin · 18/07/2023 19:19

Sweetashunni · 18/07/2023 19:17

If you should have complete autonomy over your own body and choose what you wish to do with it regardless of what society sees as acceptable, then the logical extension of that is that those things should also be legal?

Hardly

Skinthin · 18/07/2023 19:19

Ponoka7 · 18/07/2023 19:18

Bare Knuckle boxing and individual prostitution isn't illegal.

👍🏻

GrumpyPanda · 18/07/2023 19:19

Sweetashunni · 18/07/2023 19:12

So all forms of prostitution should be legal? And we should be able to pay homeless people to fight for entertainment?

What an asinine comparison. Prostitutes, by and large, are the victims not the perpetrators. Most people who oppose prostitution want to sanction the sleazebags who see fit to buy another human being's body.

DirectionToPerfection · 18/07/2023 19:21

SeulementUneFois · 18/07/2023 19:10

Barbaric that she was in prison.

Her body is her body. Full stop.

Ridiculously simplistic statement.

This was a viable baby and term limits are there for a reason.

Tandora · 18/07/2023 19:24

DirectionToPerfection · 18/07/2023 19:21

Ridiculously simplistic statement.

This was a viable baby and term limits are there for a reason.

It’s not simplistic at all. Some of us believe this should be an absolute principle and for very good reasons.

Jongleterre · 18/07/2023 19:26

She could have had the baby and then arranged for the infant to be adopted.

Instead she murdered her baby and I don't think she has been punished enough and should not be released.

Sweetashunni · 18/07/2023 19:26

GrumpyPanda · 18/07/2023 19:19

What an asinine comparison. Prostitutes, by and large, are the victims not the perpetrators. Most people who oppose prostitution want to sanction the sleazebags who see fit to buy another human being's body.

I agree. But you can’t say ‘her body her choice but only if I agree with the activity she’s undertaking’ can you? So - complete bodily autonomy or not?

Aprilx · 18/07/2023 19:28

We have laws, we have term limits and she broke the law and it was a viable baby. I don’t have a lot of sympathy with her to be honest. I don’t know if it was the right sentence, but it was right that she was tried and convicted.

Skinthin · 18/07/2023 19:29

Sweetashunni · 18/07/2023 19:26

I agree. But you can’t say ‘her body her choice but only if I agree with the activity she’s undertaking’ can you? So - complete bodily autonomy or not?

those debates are not about whether you “agree or disagree with the activity” being undertaking ffs 🙈, it’s about whether you worry that those people are being exploited: coerced and whether you believe that they can be meaningfully /reasonably be said to be exercising consent over what is happening to them.

Babsexxx · 18/07/2023 19:30

no way lock her up and throw away the key I’m afraid she KNEW how far she was she also KNEW that, that baby wasn’t her ex husband’s! Who she was rekindling her romance with! How convenient! Absolute sick sick excuse of a woman should of had the baby adopted!

Skinthin · 18/07/2023 19:30

Aprilx · 18/07/2023 19:28

We have laws, we have term limits and she broke the law and it was a viable baby. I don’t have a lot of sympathy with her to be honest. I don’t know if it was the right sentence, but it was right that she was tried and convicted.

So you never question the law?