This isn't our heat wave, but the next one could be

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Or if we mess up the jet stream, arctic winters.

We have really messed up horrifically, haven't we.

I am scared its too late to put right

Just come back from overseas holidays (I know). It’s more than China, Russia and the US who aren’t really trying to change their ways. Greece doesn’t seem to do recycling/clean energy etc. ditto many Central European countries.

more of the world aren’t bothered than are. I won’t stop doing what I can (I know) to live differently, and I’m sure lots of us are. But in my heart I know we’re screwed. It’s going to roll like zones Sci-fi movie, with areas gradually becoming uninhabitable and more and more extreme weather disasters.

I genuinely fear for my kids.

Well no, there's methane too but if course we are the ones releasing it into the atmosphere. It's something like 20 times more damaging than CO2

Agree, it will be like your worst dystopian nightmare. God I wish I wasn't so aware in many ways 😞

If you want to see why we literally have no chance watch Inside Dubai: Playground of the Rich currently on BBC2.

Two limos to take the family of 4 to the airport to the private jet to take them to their other house in Jersey. 25 bags of food for an 8 hour flight. Archway of balloons at the entrance of the plane - yet she states she pays her staff more than the minimum that is £300.00/month

I've never really begrudged anyone anything before but this is making me so angry

We’re apparently worried about climate change yet at the same time, people call for hundreds of thousands more houses to be built on green land. There are new housing developments springing up everywhere you look, often replacing fields and nature.

@surreysarah but people have to live somewhere. Maybe if we stopped second home ownership, or non dom ownership of UK property, this might be reduced. Also all the neglected/empty buildings should be seized and repaired and let as genuinely affordable housing. Also stop RTB.

@PurpleWisteria1

I'm obese.

I have diabetes
i huff & puff
i wear enormous clothes (trust me it's for the hood of the nation, skimpy clothes are NOT a look. Anymore).

I was 7 stone wet, I had a virus attack my liver, I got very very ill & as a result got diabetes & a completely fucked metabolism plus other issues.

i gained a shit load of weight.

I'm vegetarian, I seriously low carb. I mostly eat OMAD, I don't eat very much. I drink water and 1-2 cups of coffee a day. I very occasionally have a wine or vodka tonic

I buy as many vegetables as I can locally & in season. I don't eat eggs.

what exactly about my diet would you like me to change??

@Againstmachine

you didn't need to name any specific group of people.

its not me that's the idiot.

Start eating eggs for a first off- extremely nutrient dense, low carb, low sugar and high protien.
In all seriousness if you have metabolism issues then your in the minority. I was really meaning even when someone is overweight / obese (65% of the population) people still won’t do what they need to with their diet to directly save themselves from a very high chance of early death / disease. How have we any hope with the majority drastically changing their diet for something unknown in the future, possibly after they themselves have died?

But it’s not people calling for it, is it? It’s certainly not the people living near by calling for more houses in their areas? It’s greedy developers, back handed payments, deals between ‘mates’ at government levels, Tory donors etc even when local plans have been dismissed in some cases, the building still goes ahead. Greed greed greed is what is all boils down to in every area.

@l@Flickersy not that it matters that much I suppose, but my family moved to NZ when I was 10, I always wanted to come back. I did when I was mid 20's. I'm now in my 50's.

Water used to be drawn from wells, but funnily enough I expect, you expect, water to come from your tap when you turn it on.

life changes & until now mist of us believed fir the better.

i came back here because it still feels like home to me. I did it at a time when I expected to be able to fly back to see my family & friends.

my point was why does Laurie think banning flying for people like me is ok, no matter what other choices I make. If my 10 year carbon footprint is lower than hers,why shouldn't I be able to go & see my mum?

Im not on several flights a year, I walk whenever it's possible, I'm vegetarian, I'm careful with gas, electric, fuel. I'm not chopping down trees & laying astroturf...

why should someone dictate I can't visit my mum??

'Our natural world' didn't evolve with lots of things as they are...

Yeah people worrying about AI becoming smarter than humans & taking over.. a) it wouldn't take too much to be smarter than humans b) if you've seen our politicians I wouldn't think the AI taking over would be a bad thing.

The world is heavily over-populated. The only ways to combat this is via mass sterilization, war, famine or disease. None are remotely appealing scenarios, but they are becoming inevitable.

I'm not in the UK, but the average life expectancy is increasing here - all the people who are elderly now were raised on meat! I have been taking numbers of attendees for a birthday lunch to celebrate the 106th birthday of a local women, people reaching 100 is no longer a novelty. Just how long do we want to live?

Well bully for you! I most certainly don't want to shuffle off this mortal coil in my 70s if medical interventions can keep me alive, and I imagine my friends who are that age, or nearing it, would say the same.

@Teateaandmoretea @WestwardHo1

The list of green house gases includes many gases. But their global warming potential is measured as the equivalent of CO2 over the span of 100 years. You'll often see it written as CO2e, carbon dioxide equivalent.

It's been warmer than 29 degrees in Inverness before! The highest temperature recorded was 29.7 °C (85.5 °F) in July 2006 and June 2018.

According to Visit Inverness, "What few people realise is that Inverness is actually one of the driest areas of Scotland with just under 900 mm of rain average per year."

Yes. I have a friend who is a holiday nanny for a very high net worth family. They have no worries about flying her to their various holiday homes via private jet, or by helicopter.

I think I also read somewhere that the US military is responsible for a massive percentage of global carbon as well.

Where I live the tar on the roads melts every summer, and always has. Your point is?

Life expectancy is not currently rising - it's fallen in the last three years

Those who are aged around 100 were raised in their teens and start of early adulthood under wartime restriction and post war rationing. They ate very little meat in their formative years compared to those before and after them, and had their eating habits formed by it, so life-long they have tended to eat better.

We won't see another generation like it (yes there will be groups who eat that well, but it won't be across the whole national population)

The warnings about obesity meaning lower life expectancy have been around for some years now. Acute covid is still a major cause of death, and the covid effects on cardiovascular system (more heart attacks and strokes) on the brain (earlier onset and more severe dementia) and increasing incidence of diabetes are all going to continue to reduce like expectancy.

Well, that's one way of saving on the pensions bill - work until your 67, but only expect normal levels of medical treatment for the first three years of your retirement

"excessive" already doesn't happen, btw

No treatment will be carried out unless it's agreed to be in the patient's best interests. I find the phrase is often used to mean "expensive" or "something for which there is a long waiting list" and the aim is to reduce spending, or to prioritise by something other than clinical need

It's not just about living longer, it's about how much this obesity related ill health costs.

Ideally people WOULDN'T be living longer. They'd be living in good (inexpensive) health until they died suddenly in their sleep (inexpensively) aged about 75. Clearly this is unrealistic.

I do think if everyone tried to eat less meat it would help

How has a thread about climate changed served into one wanting to kill off older people again ?

The lack of action is shocking, particularly around fast Fashion. https://carbonliteracy.com/fast-fashions-carbon-footprint/