This isn't our heat wave, but the next one could be

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Or if we mess up the jet stream, arctic winters.

We have really messed up horrifically, haven't we.

I am scared its too late to put right

This is also my view. The earth will be well shot of us.

Everyone on this thread who's scared and concerned...

Please join a climate action group

If EVERYONE who felt this way protested, lobbied, or petitioned - we could not be ignored.

If you sit there anxious doing nothing it won't help you or your children - instead, you can fight for change, and these groups are brilliant at showing you how you can help within your comfort zone. It will help you feel better when you're doing something constructive too.

There's even some brilliant groups specifically for parents and mums.

That's your opinion which I don't care for.

Yes staggering that our Govt is not building or even planning to build more water storage facilities, esp for agri.

We get plenty enough rain in the UK, trouble is 99% of it washes out to sea along with millions of tonnes of top soil.

I don't eat meat because I don't like it and I don't really care because I am in the last leg of life now anyway

It is indeed factually accurate what the previous poster said.

https://www.greenelement.co.uk/blog/why-is-eating-meat-bad-for-the-environment/

Also

You don't have to be perfect before you demand change from the government

All of us, inherently, will be hypocrites, because just by existing we are producing CO2.

Accept that, do what you can, and fight for systemic change which is what will maker the biggest difference fastest.

Agree with this too, without humans the earth will thrive. We are the ones dependant on the planet for survival and the animals.

It's certainly extremely simplistic.

A vegan who washes their towels after one use, flies frequently, has six children, an SUV and two homes is not greener than someone who does none of those things but has the occasional roast chicken or ham sandwich.

Still using victorian sized reservoirs is just absolute insanity. However, zero thinking from any of our recent governments.

How do the billionaires and megacorps make their money?

Do you really think the consumer has nothing to do with that?

At this point I think our best hope is developing super-intelligent AI and pray it comes up with a viable technology to reduce carbon in the atmosphere.

I hope there is noone eating soy as the growth of this is just as bad.

HNRT and trivial point but jet stream unlikely. Gulf stream a different situation though might make Winters uncomfortable.

There is one surprise in the current political climate though.

This. Everyone always has something they consider the "most important" way of cutting their carbon footprint. Hence why we have comments like "if only everyone would just stop flying!" Now for this person it's "if only everyone would just stop eating meat". Most likely they both do what the other person thinks the more important. The jet setting vegans and the meat eating staycationers.

Grow your own veg? Compost? Consume less other stuff? Food miles? Dry washing outside?

If we all did what we can do it all adds up. Some of us need a car but don't fly . Some of us can dry washing outside. Some of us can't compost but don't need a car...etc etc etc. Eg I don't fly but use a car . (Disabilities related) we don't use much heating in the flat but ds eats meat and drinks a lot of milk.

I was pondering... grew veg on the windowsill next to the sofa...if one opens one's mouth and bites off the lettuce from the plant, does that make it negative food miles centimetres?

Heh? That’s a huge stretch right there, you’re assuming vegans do all those/have all those things. It’s not simplistic, it’s a scientifically proven fact that a vegan diet is better for the environment.

So when a person reaches 70 and gets ill with cancer or some other disease it’s no hospital, or medical interventions? Just some painkillers and off you go to die my dear?
I mean that’s one way to deal with it I suppose but I don’t think many will be with you there 🤣

@MsRosley, let's hope that AI avoids the most obvious and quickest ways of reducing atmospheric carbon dioxide and methane.

I’m on the weather thread. I have to use my tumble dryer if I want my washing to dry. It has done nothing but rain here for the last couple of weeks. I’d never have dry towels if I had to hang them outside.

I have to drive to get to work, I do shifts and public transport does not run early enough (or direct) for me to get there for an early shift. Even if we moved closer (which we can’t afford), I’d still have to use my car. It’s not that simple.

It requires the world to agree and act on it - but you are not going to get that from the big players - China and India with huge populations and rising and poverty that means that people there cannot prioritise environment and therefore will not drive their governments to do so. Russia is just a no - it doesn't give a shit about it's own people let alone the world, the US makes noises but gives no shits.

I wonder what that'll mean for the Commonwealth?

And whether it'll become our most influential alliance

See?

It's been proven beyond a doubt that eating less meat is one of the major things an individual can do to reduce their own carbon footprint. Some things are just facts, not opinions.

Yet when they are pointed out, people choose to feel judged and become defensive. And then they entrench themselves in their own position, crying about "opinions".

Ps agreeing with the post I quoted

A clothes airer?