to think food adverts on the TV are poisonous

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every night when I sit down to watch telly there are adverts for Just Eat, KFC etc. Purely designed to make us order a takeaway.

I hate this and think it should be regulated in the same way that cigarettes and alcohol are.

And wtf is it with Trivento wines advertising 'a splash of the bold' in conjunction with certain programmes.

Just no!

Also see gogglebox where every person on is is eating in front of the TV. Snacks, or dinner or cakes.

I have enough trouble curbing my desire to eat without all this!

Yes I should have said type 2 (of course nothing can be done about type 1 but most people know that by now)

Thin people who eat junk food can get type 2 diabetes. You don't have to be overweight.

The Ninja survey is the 11% one https://ninjakitchen.co.uk/fast-food-cms-page.takeaway

Remember all those lunch time take outs that JRM worried about.
Is a Costa wrap a takeaway?
Bacon sandwich to go?
Pasty?
Breakfast, lunch, dinner - slightly different questions must get you wildly different answers.

So a much smaller sample size (only 2000) and probably made largely from people who think ‘air frying’ is like cooking a healthy meal, a pretty skewed survey really.

@Mila1234567 thank you for that link to the research.

It is notable in the Karger study that anorexia was recognised as an illness in the 1950's while obesity wasn't recognised until after the introduction of UPF in the 80's.

Furthermore it states that in over eaters 100% of people who binge ate would do so with solely UPF.

I honesty can't see how anyone can ignore the danger of UPF and still seek to lay the blame at an individual level.

This is a massive societal problem and the sooner we accept that and seek to change it the better.

and can we please stop referring to UPF as a treat.

It is anything but.

@IMustDoMoreExercise you can be thin, eat junk food & get type 2 diabetes just as you can be thin, eat healthier food & get type 2. Junk food may increase the risk of developing diabetes but it's one factor amongst many www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overview/symptoms-causes#:~:text=or%20heart%20trouble.-,What%20causes%20type%201%20diabetes%3F,that%20might%20trigger%20the%20disease.

@Hufflepods They claim it is a representative poll so should give about a 2.2% margin of error with a 95% confidence interval.

I'm really glad I started this discussion.

Its give me real food for thought - pardon the pun - and revealed some very interesting stats and preconceptions.

Thank you all!

No, but you do you.

Don't be silly, it's a treat for many people unless the definition of 'treat' has changed?

noun

1. an event or item that is out of the ordinary and gives great pleasure.

For many people eating UPF is out of the ordinary and of course it gives them pleasure.

Smoking and eating junk food and takeaways are not the same thing.

Smoking impacts firsthand, secondhand, and thirdhand to people and can cause cancer and a host of problems to non-smokers. Someone choosing to eat junk food or unhealthy takeaways doesn’t have the same impact.

Heck, these days you can skip adverts with a push of a button and not have to see them if you don’t want to just like one can choose not to make junk food and takeaways as a large part of their diet.

That is so perverse I don’t know where to begin

But you’ve basically changed the topic entirely. Your OP was moaning about takeaway adverts and snacks on tv. That’s not the same as UPF. You can order healthier takeaways, I’ve got a great local Vietnamese and Japanese restaurant that deliver via just eat which isn’t remotely comparable with fast food. Equally not all snacks are terrible UPF.

Yeah I agree it reallt doesn’t help the absolutely massive obesity problem in this country.

UPF is addictive, that’s how it’s designed. Great for all of you who are slim and healthy but most of the population are not!

Most takeaways are not though.

An air fryer is essentially a very small, very cheap oven. How is cooking, e.g. jacket potatoes in an air fryer any less healthy than cooking them in the oven? It just takes half the time and less than half the electricity.

Makes a change from blaming foreign nationals, I suppose. You know, as you're using the narrative of disabled people endangering you.

Being slim and healthy is and does take a lot of work for many and involves a lot of thought and taking into account one’s individual body. It’s years of practice and learning what to eat, what not to eat, portion sizes, calorie intake, how much sugar, fat, salt you should have, what the ingredients are in a food, looking up what something is if you don’t know/ never heard of it, what can you sub to make a dish healthier and still taste good, what did you eat before this meal, what are you thinking of eating after this meal, how much exercise, what kind of exercise, what foods give you energy, what foods make you tired, what foods make you feel bloated, etc and retaining that knowledge. It’s constant conscious decision-making that after awhile becomes second nature even when you’re exhausted and just want something quick to eat and it would be so easy to attack a packet of biscuits or bags of crisps.

Your taste in food changes and many upfs don’t taste good because of it. They’re too sweet, too salty, texture is off, leaves a coating in your mouth that you can’t seem to get rid of, has an odd/weird aftertaste etc so it’s easier to say no, have them sparingly, or just avoid them and the ones you do enjoy, you have sparingly because you know they are not something you should consume regularly and not large amounts.

From what I could see its effectiveness is really about it being able to cook beige oven processed food quite crispy, your chips, breaded items, battered items etc etc.

I cook veg and meat in it regularly. It's realky versatile and roasta veg for soup etc in no time compared to oven.

We use ours for vegetables and meat. Much quicker and cheaper than a standard sized oven.

If that's what you'd normally cook in your oven, sure. But you can cook almost anything you'd bake, roast or fry in an air fryer.

If using it to fry, it needs very little oil in comparison to shallow-frying in a pan, which is where some of the health claims come from.

We use it for jacket potatoes and roast meat and vegetables mainly.

I am sure there is articles and books on the internet that say the world is run by monkeys does not mean it is true, I am still yet to see where there is proof that people are forced to eat 'junk' food and have head their brains that brainwashed they have no idea the word NO exists

Well I tend to use the slow cooker more than anything and I dont tend to fry things

I get the thing about roasted veg, that could be helpful, but we dont eat jacket potatoes and things like that