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to think food adverts on the TV are poisonous

155 replies

FunnysInLaJardin · 17/07/2023 21:50

every night when I sit down to watch telly there are adverts for Just Eat, KFC etc. Purely designed to make us order a takeaway.

I hate this and think it should be regulated in the same way that cigarettes and alcohol are.

And wtf is it with Trivento wines advertising 'a splash of the bold' in conjunction with certain programmes.

Just no!

Also see gogglebox where every person on is is eating in front of the TV. Snacks, or dinner or cakes.

I have enough trouble curbing my desire to eat without all this!

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IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/07/2023 14:19

Janieforever · 18/07/2023 14:17

There is a major difference, we can eat the occasional junk food meal and be very healthy. We cannot do the same with smoking.

No it is exactly the same.

UPF is highly addictive just like nicotine.

Janieforever · 18/07/2023 14:20

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/07/2023 14:18

But it isn't your fault that the UP junk food is addictive is it?

It's just like smoking. I don't think anyone would say that you should be able to be able to advertise cigarettes.

Is it addictive? I don’t think it is. For some maybe, but no, I am not addicted to junk food, I do not find after a couple of junk food meals I am an addict and I don’t know anyone who is. It is no where near the same as smoking/.

Janieforever · 18/07/2023 14:21

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/07/2023 14:19

No it is exactly the same.

UPF is highly addictive just like nicotine.

Can you post the evidence of this please?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/07/2023 14:22

FoodFann · 18/07/2023 14:18

In some ad breaks, every single adverts is for junk food or alcohol. We could really do with people not being so ill in this country, surely it’s costing the nhs a fortune.

Also, Captain Morgan rum adverts seem practically aimed at children!

Not only is it costing us a fortune but billion are being spent treating type 2 diabetes which means that money can't be used to reduce waiting lists and pay staff properly.

xsquared · 18/07/2023 14:22

Another thread blaming anything other than lack of self discipline for eating unhealthily.

Adverts don't help of course, but no one is forcing you to part your money and wait half an hour for a takeaway, when you can easily prepare a healthy meal in that time at a smaller cost.

rwalker · 18/07/2023 14:23

FunnysInLaJardin · 17/07/2023 21:56

I agree. The big food manufacturers have a lot to answer for

That’s the trouble people take zero responsibility for themselves blame everyone else
and expect the government to wipe there arse

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/07/2023 14:26

rwalker · 18/07/2023 14:23

That’s the trouble people take zero responsibility for themselves blame everyone else
and expect the government to wipe there arse

That would be fine if it didn't affect me but when I can't have an operation because the NHS is spending too much on type 2 diabetes then we need to do something about it.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/07/2023 14:29

xsquared · 18/07/2023 14:22

Another thread blaming anything other than lack of self discipline for eating unhealthily.

Adverts don't help of course, but no one is forcing you to part your money and wait half an hour for a takeaway, when you can easily prepare a healthy meal in that time at a smaller cost.

But junk food is addictive so it is not their fault.

It is the fault of the government that allows it to be sold knowing the damage it is doing.

Janieforever · 18/07/2023 14:30

That’s a book review which cites “evidence”. Apologies, my question was link to the evidence please.

xsquared · 18/07/2023 14:36

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/07/2023 14:29

But junk food is addictive so it is not their fault.

It is the fault of the government that allows it to be sold knowing the damage it is doing.

With the cost of living crisis, you'd think it would be a deterrent for people frittering money on things like KFC and McDonald's, though.

In my experience, things like that should be a treat that you have every now and again, not as a regular part of your diet.

DyslexicPoster · 18/07/2023 14:39

We are too rural for delivery, can't offord takeaway even once a month and I don't buy snacks so it doesn't bother me. However I'm still fat.

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 18/07/2023 14:39

56.8% of the UK's calorific intake comes from UPF. At a population level it is a problem.

deplorabelle · 18/07/2023 14:40

This is Mumsnet so of course advertising doesn't work on the average MNer, and they've only ever had KFC once at a particularly oiky school mum's house (and they passed out after two bites and didn't eat for a week afterwards, such was the horror)

But it is well known that food advertising is part of our obesogenic environment. It affects everyone to some extent but vulnerable groups are more susceptible. Some junk food advertising is now limited pre watershed, which means that teens and twenties are being sold to even harder. The motive is profit and it's setting harmful new norms for some groups of young people, and changing what food options are even available in the poorest areas.

I have never understood why gogglebox dresses their sets with food either. Is it advertiser led or have the producers just absorbed the TV=snacking idea and are conveying it as the new normal?

FoodFann · 18/07/2023 14:49

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 18/07/2023 14:39

56.8% of the UK's calorific intake comes from UPF. At a population level it is a problem.

Such an interesting statistic. I wonder what that looks like as a week’s worth of food?

Cheesusisgrate · 18/07/2023 14:49

Of course lots of stuff in uk is upf🤷
I've seen people's hissy fits when food goes off at normal rate not lasting ages🤷

FunnysInLaJardin · 18/07/2023 15:19

deplorabelle · 18/07/2023 14:40

This is Mumsnet so of course advertising doesn't work on the average MNer, and they've only ever had KFC once at a particularly oiky school mum's house (and they passed out after two bites and didn't eat for a week afterwards, such was the horror)

But it is well known that food advertising is part of our obesogenic environment. It affects everyone to some extent but vulnerable groups are more susceptible. Some junk food advertising is now limited pre watershed, which means that teens and twenties are being sold to even harder. The motive is profit and it's setting harmful new norms for some groups of young people, and changing what food options are even available in the poorest areas.

I have never understood why gogglebox dresses their sets with food either. Is it advertiser led or have the producers just absorbed the TV=snacking idea and are conveying it as the new normal?

Well said!

As for Gogglebox, I wonder whether there is some sponsorship by a food manufacturer.

Every single person is eating something and in my experience that is not a normal part of watching telly. Even if the food is not actually eaten it is in every shot. Even the pre-programme advert bit has someone eating/spilling a bowl of crisps

It seems so insidious that I feel as though I am being subtly - or not so subtly- manipulated.

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LadyKenya · 18/07/2023 15:27

Those types of adverts just pass me by tbh. I have no desire to spend good money, on crap food being delivered to my door. I do my own burgers, or chicken if I desire them.

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 18/07/2023 15:35

FoodFann · 18/07/2023 14:49

Such an interesting statistic. I wonder what that looks like as a week’s worth of food?

Why did you ask? 😩I have to know now

roughly, for a woman on 2,000cals a day

Peperoni pizza, home brand 890
Birdseye ham and cheese chicken kiev 490
one packet strawberry breakfast bars 6 764

kfc meal
Zinger 420
Sm popcorn 140
reg fries 270
garlic mayo 110

half a hovis loaf 932
100g utterly butterly 415
a tin of baked beans 336
BBQ pringles 1040
half a jar sour cream dip 300
sweet & sour chicken ready meal 571
2 x cornetto 444
galaxy smooth caramel 670
freddo 95
50g of HP sauce 61

Just under 8,000 cals of UPF, other sample lists could be constructed
It seems so much but also so little

WhereTheSuburbsMeetUttoxeter · 18/07/2023 15:42

Gina makes me laugh. Is to stop dryness or for thrush? Didn't pay attention, too busy laughing at

Gina for your 'gina 🤣
Thanks for that.

I don't like the woman wiping herself on the loo.

Sorry completely non food related.

I can't say that any food advert has influenced me to eat or go out and buy a product (I am overweight and love eating!). I can say the same for cooking programs - my favourite watch.

It's a good thing really seeing as I'm addicted to all the other bad things in life 🙄

Janieforever · 18/07/2023 17:16

Mila1234567 · 18/07/2023 14:38

There is tons of research on that subject, here are just few links googled in 10 seconds, but I'm sure you can find more, as you seem to really interested in evidence.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35921867/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361979790_Preliminary_Evidence_that_Tolerance_and_Withdrawal_Occur_in_Response_to_Ultra-processed_Foods
https://karger.com/pps/article/91/6/363/826582

I think maybe you didn’t read that article;,it doesn’t say what you think it says and does not back up your theory that junk food is as addictive as nicotine.

Hawkins0001 · 18/07/2023 17:51

thecatsthecats · 18/07/2023 11:54

It's all very well saying that, but how do you propose that existing humans evolve the level of willpower required for modern food environments, when their bodies are very much designed for the level of willpower required in a hunter gatherer society?

We understand the management of this in zoos: we know that there are effects on zoo animals of captivity for exercise, activity, breeding and nutrition.

I fail to see why we shouldn't take a similar approach for humans.

I'm not qualified to comment on your perspectives

Mila1234567 · 18/07/2023 18:07

Janieforever · 18/07/2023 17:16

I think maybe you didn’t read that article;,it doesn’t say what you think it says and does not back up your theory that junk food is as addictive as nicotine.

I never said it's as addictive as nicotine, that was another poster. Also, I linked 3 different articles, so I don't know which one you refer to (although I suppose you didn't even click on any of them). Maybe you can provide evidence for your claim, because so far your 'evidence' is saying Is it addictive? I don’t think it is.

phoenixrosehere · 18/07/2023 18:18

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/07/2023 14:29

But junk food is addictive so it is not their fault.

It is the fault of the government that allows it to be sold knowing the damage it is doing.

But junk food is addictive so it is not their fault.

It is if you choose to eat it regardless of knowing how bad it is.

It’s not new information that junk food should be eaten sparingly and not a large part of one’s diet. It’s been said for decades.