To find most Brits bemusingly obedient?

[Torven]

Most, not all!

But most would queue themselves into an early grave if a perceived (not even actual) authority figure ordered them to.

Why do they obey the "you must scan your receipt before exiting the self service area" rule in supermarkets? No you don't, Sainsbury's isn't going to hold you hostage in a castle dungeon until you comply.

Another thread on here about "requiring evidence" if your kid is sick so they're "allowed" to be off school? All these folk scrabbling about taking photos of thermometers oh I HOPE THE HEAD THINKS THIS IS ENOUGH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭. Tell the head to feck right off.

Most rules can just be ignored and if enough people ignore the stupid ones they'll disappear. You're making it worse for everyone by going along with them.

@DemonicCaveMaggot

Not at our sainsburys, perhaps it's a London thing.

Torven is out for chaos! Being 'obedient' means waiting your turn. If everyone was as entitled as you'd want them to be, only the brass necks would be happy. Let Grandma be fourth in the queue instead of pushed back constantly for all the others who just charged ahead 'because they're sensible'. It's just being civil to eachother. Don't read that in an arsey way, I actually find this thread humourous 😁

I would like every rule and law breaker expelled from the UK on a permanent basis. Even today foreign law breakers at 3pm are continuing their regular building works after the 1pm Saturday deadline which is not only on the council website but in their planning permission. This kind of person who puts two fingers up to the UK and its rules is not welcome here and ought to be expelled. It is a privilege to live in this land.

I would assume, although I've also never seen this, that those tills are set up to just automatically give you a receipt.

If they did ask then (in an act of rule breaking that would please the OP) I would always press no, because it would irritate me that they put in a barrier and still asked me if I wanted a receipt. Plus I don't like taking receipts if I don't need them.

Although the COVID rules were funking ridiculous. I accept that in its entirety.

In Sainsbury's I'd have to physically force open the barrier, setting off an alarm, or I could just, y'know scan the receipt which takes all of second and go about my day. The barriers are 3 feet high, so unless you're planning to pole vault over them or are about 9 feet tall, you can't step over them. Where have you seen barriers in the supermarket you can step over?

Maybe if the shoplifters weren't so intent on ignoring the 'rules' about theft, the barriers wouldn't be necessary?

gogomoto I found the barriers at Sainsburys in Trowbridge, but not in my local town. They may be working their way from the larger branches down.

But usually it's fairest for the person who has waited the longest to go first.

When for some reason someone has a greater need (screaming baby/toddler etc), it's not uncommon for the queue to wave that person through in front.

I’ve visited my parents country and similar ones and I’m grateful for law and order, and good manners where it isn’t ok to break rules. Yes the U.K. is also corrupt but I know where I’d rather live and I’m grateful they came over here. Like I said it’s not perfect but where exactly is perfect. I’d like to know where you live.

Exactly, otherwise we’re looking at survival of the fittest type scenarios.

As a foreign born person from a chaotic country, I personally love this about Brits. I fell in love with the UK when I saw the queues. It's so endearing and lovely.

I am in my home country over the hols and I already want to shout at all the rude, entitled people who jump queues.

People who shoplift are hungry. I don't feel any particular annoyance towards them. I do feel annoyance that Sainsbury's decided to respond to this by trying to waste my time and energy.

Top tip, bags ovwr the other side then step over (I'm five six and can do it) or sit on the barrier and spin your legs round. Little wave for the security guard as you go.

Why do you care?
What's your problem with British people?
And don't tar everyone with the same brush!

That reminds me of Jerome K Jerome's book, Three men on the Bummel (published around 1900) where he comments on the extreme obedience of the German people and goes on to say:
Hitherto, the German has had the blessed fortune to be exceptionally well governed; if this continues, it will go well with him. When his troubles will begin will be when by any chance something goes wrong with the governing machine.

He certainly wasn't wrong there!

I did explicitly say most.

I care because I think obedience is a dangerous trait. The obedient mistake their behaviour for a virtue that justifies anything.

“People who shoplift are hungry”
Ha ha ha ha ha😂
@Torven have you ever worked in retail? People are rarely stealing because they are hungry.

There are barriers in Norway too, OP, so if you hate the British’s barrier habits so much that you decide to leave, don’t come here.

It’s bizarre that you think scanning the receipt is such a heinous problem that you think I should hang around and wait for the Norwegian staff to come and let me through. That could take a while because they’d probably roll their eyes and walk the other way. Should I chase after them, in your opinion? And no, I can’t climb over and if I did, it wouldn’t inconvenience the staff so it would be pointless as an objection.

What "all" shoplifters are hungry? Have a word with yourself!
Why are you wasting your time hoicking your bags over barriers and then climbing over, when you could just scan your receipt and exit much faster?
Do you think you're being edgy and rebellious?

If I did this as a brown woman, people would say ' well that's what happens when you let all the immigrants in"😁I will just scan the receipt.

This is ridiculous. Neither of the rules that you suggested will lead to genocide.

Tell me, OP. Are trans women women?

Just checking whether you’re a terf or a sheep….

I’m extremely disobedient and avidly avoid following rules and instructions if I can get away with it. I’m from Wales though (although with UK) maybe it’s a Celt thing

I actually agree that obedience isn't a great trait, I'm not bringing my daughters up hoping they turn out really unthinkingly obedient.

But I don't think queues are a good example of it at all. Queuing is a perfectly reasonable way of deciding who goes first in situations where there is no way to "triage" and decide who needs to go first (like you would in A&E for example, where a straight queue would be a silly way to run things). Not pushing in isn't obedience, it's manners.

Quite

Haha yes same! OP is obviously speaking from a position of privilege!