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Huw Edwards named as BBC presenter!

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Amuseaboosh · 12/07/2023 18:04

I'm actually shocked.

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notwavingbutdrowning1 · 12/07/2023 21:05

WildUnchartedWaters · 12/07/2023 21:03

No crime has been committed.

That is a complete non sequitur.

Namechangey23 · 12/07/2023 21:05

Willyoujustbequiet · 12/07/2023 20:58

This

The amount of posters bending over backwards to defend such appalling behaviour is sickening.

@halfpintshandypants are you serious? Please tell me you are joking?! The Sun has FAMOUS HISTORY for making things up!! Google the Hillsborough diaster and what The Sun did to pour shame on the fans who died (and we are talking adults and children here) and blame them for it when none of it was true!! Many people in Liverpool and Merseyside still boycott The Sun now because of its actions and its flagrant disrespect of the dead. I wouldn't believe a single word of anything they write. Also THE SUN USED TO PUBLISH NAKED 16 YEAR OLDS EVERY EDITION ON PAGE 3! Do you not see the irony? Who do you think holds them accountable?!!

lubileejubilee · 12/07/2023 21:05

halfpintshandypants · 12/07/2023 20:42

I feel sad for the child and mum and hope they are getting the support they need. The mum has been very brave. It takes a lot to go public.

The Sun did a fab job getting this story out there. Men like this should not be protected. I have a lot of time for The Sun and contrary to opinion on here, they can’t just make stuff up whenever they feel like it.

It’s threads like this and outpourings of sympathy for violent abusive men that always remind me how little society has progressed really. Strangely, many women seek to maintain the status quo by defending men, even powerful ones that abuse their position. Women and children deserve so much better.

Yeah because The Sun are champions of integrity and sensitivity, just ask anyone from Liverpool or all the ppl they illegally wire tapped. They didn’t do a fab job, they’re treading carefully so not to get sued whilst trying to create as much sensationalism to sell papers.

Ridemeginger · 12/07/2023 21:06

It's funny how these middle aged men having their mental health crises and acting out their suppressed sexualities, never do so with other middle aged men, but always with teens or young men.

RaisinFlapjack · 12/07/2023 21:06

UncleRadley · 12/07/2023 20:50

They are male. There is more than one. His way of operating seems to be randomly direct messaging teenagers and potentially vulnerable young adults. Which then progresses to sharing nude pictures - perhaps for cash, but I don't think that's confirmed as yet, just reported by the sun. It's also possible that he's sent abusive messages to one teenager who threatened to expose his messages. And now possibly bashing his senior position at work by contacting younger, junior employees in an inappropriate way. It may not be illegal, but does this mean it's all fine and dandy and we shouldn't have an opinion on it or express an opinion on it? He just gets on with it because nobody has the right to give a shit as it's his private, personal life?

A lot is unknown. I think there’s some differences between, for example, contact on OnlyFans or Grindr which are all about sexual transactions of one form or another. Versus contacting colleagues or random folk on Instagram or Twitter who haven’t asked for the attention. And then the exact nature of the messages (I note the person who claimed he sent angry abusive messages was in response to that person threatening to publicly out him…I mean, that’s not an unreasonable thing to get angry about).

I’m not completely defending him and I find the focus on young people who are just barely legal very uncomfortable to say the least. But I think the whole thing is quite complicated and the information in the public domain is a pretty scant basis on which to ruin someone’s life and career.

Chickenkeev · 12/07/2023 21:07

RedRosesPinkLilies · 12/07/2023 21:00

@Chickenkeev
People with actual psychiatric illness are at the mercy of delusions/ hallucinations etc. So schizophrenia, bipolar, psychotic depression. Their beliefs are not aligned with reality - Major Psychiatric Illness. They could believe voices are speaking to them and commenting on their actions - in a very critical manner. But they don’t have insight that this is not true.

Other conditions - anxiety: less severe depression- people know they are unwell, and their beliefs have founding in reality. They develop anxiety about things they know they don’t like - even if they don’t know the exact reason - their reasoning is not distorted.

In my view the awakening of understanding about Mental Health, has affected our ability to understand and be empathic about Mental Illness. Much easier to speak about anxiety, than irrational psychotic delusions that you see know point in discussing because you believe them to be true.

Again, I am speaking in general terms about the difference between Mental Health and Mental Illness - in my view.

Thanks (genuinely!) for the insights. My anxiety completely enveloped me so in a way i feel like it was akin to depression. It may even have been depression at some stage. All i know is i ended up 'locked up' in the psychiatric unit in hospital, couldn't leave without being accompanied by a staff member. My daughter had to visit me in a tiny room with a little plastic screen (cos covid) but she's quite young so it was fairly traumatic for her.

BillyNoM8s · 12/07/2023 21:07

notwavingbutdrowning1 · 12/07/2023 21:02

You don’t have to be young to be vulnerable, nor are all young people vulnerable.
These are huge sweeping inaccurate statements.

I’m sure we can all agree that young drug addicts are extremely vulnerable.

But we have no confirmation of any young drug addicts.

Just an estranged "child" whose parents made claims which the the "child" didn't support. And a story run by a paper who ignored and didn't publish the response of their alleged victim.

eastsheener · 12/07/2023 21:09

Flippertyfeckerty · 12/07/2023 18:33

A certain female presenter was actually charged with a crime, she was hounded relentlessly and killed herself. And then everyone extolled #bekind on every platform. Yet no one is in this scenario, where no actual crime has been committed- let’s remember the police have investigated and drawn that conclusion already- is giving an inch and the same old British flogging is taking place. It’s all very very sad.

Exactly BE KIND

21ZIGGY · 12/07/2023 21:09

Amuseaboosh · 12/07/2023 18:07

I think that's it. I feel strangely let down. Cannot imagine how his wife feels.

Let down about what? He owes you nothing. And has done nothing illegal.

Your horrible comment about 'trotting out mental health issues' says more about you than this whole thing says about him

WildUnchartedWaters · 12/07/2023 21:09

notwavingbutdrowning1 · 12/07/2023 21:05

That is a complete non sequitur.

Because it doesnt suit.

People suddenly care about vulnerable people when it means they can kick someone in the public eye.

This stuff happens every day.

WildUnchartedWaters · 12/07/2023 21:10

21ZIGGY · 12/07/2023 21:09

Let down about what? He owes you nothing. And has done nothing illegal.

Your horrible comment about 'trotting out mental health issues' says more about you than this whole thing says about him

This.

Willyoujustbequiet · 12/07/2023 21:10

Blinky21 · 12/07/2023 21:03

@Willyoujustbequiet he hasn't been charged with exploitation of anyone?

I didn't say he had.

Exploitation: noun to use something in order to take advantage of it

It's a fact he paid vulnerable young people for his own gratification. The very definition of exploitation.

SecretCorridor · 12/07/2023 21:10

PaperLanterns · 12/07/2023 20:58

Media kicked up a massive shitstorm with vague untruths. Calling the ‘victim’ a child constantly despite them being 20. No pics were sent whilst victim was 17.

Bit sleazy? Yes. But nothing that should have been reported to the world.

Instead of huffing and puffing about your money paying his wages (I hope you’ve checked with the bin man what he does with his salary too), why aren’t you questioning about George Osborne being accused of rape or that bag of shit Johnson not handing over his phone because ‘you’ve paid their wages’ too and the actions of these men directly fucked us all.

"I hope you’ve checked with the bin man what he does with his salary too"

This.


If the BBC have him back and put him on prime time then yes, absolutely huff and puff then.

Iolani · 12/07/2023 21:10

Gerrataere · 12/07/2023 20:49

Of course they’re vulnerable. It takes years to fully mature, that comes with experience and growing knowledge. Not all teenagers can be taken advantage of, but in terms of being used for sexual abuse/grooming from older men they are certainly the most likely victims. Tenfold since the internet blew up, the secret pockets of social media. The idea that giving away sexuality is a norm. Kids are being shown from a very young age that sex is simply something you do these days with no thoughts to your own welfare. They’re told that sex work is legitimate, easy money. Your body is no longer a temple, it is simply another commodity to be sold for profit.

Previous comment said…..’all young people are vulnerable’
The terms
‘Not all’
and
’most likely’
clearly state the not ‘all’

My comment related to the sweeping statement that ‘all’ young people ( actually it’s adults in this case )are vulnerable
I would not have commented had the original post used the terms…’some’ or even ‘most’.

If all young people are so vulnerable why on earth are we allowing them to
drive….when the brain is not developed putting other road users at risk
leave home….
etc

Mulhollandmagoo · 12/07/2023 21:11

To be honest, even if no criminal activity has taken place (which if his first victim was 17 then there was) then there was definitely a huge huge power imbalance between them, so the relationship is really inappropriate - if one of his victims was a drug addict then he has clearly used this to his advantage hasn't he.

I do feel for him as his struggles with his mental health have been very well documented, but unfortunately it doesn't excuse his poor behaviour.

Crikeyalmighty · 12/07/2023 21:12

Sun and certain media seem very reluctant to write big pieces on Andrew Rosindell, Essex Tory MP who is banned from parliament as on bail for 4th time for rape investigation and sexual assault and yet has been reselected by them for next election.

PurplePansy05 · 12/07/2023 21:12

Ridemeginger · 12/07/2023 21:06

It's funny how these middle aged men having their mental health crises and acting out their suppressed sexualities, never do so with other middle aged men, but always with teens or young men.

This.

And how now seemingly a "MH crisis" is a get out of jail card for this awful behaviour and for treating their wives appalingly.

As always, it's the woman picking up the man's shitty pieces. Huw's wife should not have been put in this position. Cowardly.

WildUnchartedWaters · 12/07/2023 21:12

Mulhollandmagoo · 12/07/2023 21:11

To be honest, even if no criminal activity has taken place (which if his first victim was 17 then there was) then there was definitely a huge huge power imbalance between them, so the relationship is really inappropriate - if one of his victims was a drug addict then he has clearly used this to his advantage hasn't he.

I do feel for him as his struggles with his mental health have been very well documented, but unfortunately it doesn't excuse his poor behaviour.

This is all speculation and libel.

Willyoujustbequiet · 12/07/2023 21:13

Namechangey23 · 12/07/2023 21:05

@halfpintshandypants are you serious? Please tell me you are joking?! The Sun has FAMOUS HISTORY for making things up!! Google the Hillsborough diaster and what The Sun did to pour shame on the fans who died (and we are talking adults and children here) and blame them for it when none of it was true!! Many people in Liverpool and Merseyside still boycott The Sun now because of its actions and its flagrant disrespect of the dead. I wouldn't believe a single word of anything they write. Also THE SUN USED TO PUBLISH NAKED 16 YEAR OLDS EVERY EDITION ON PAGE 3! Do you not see the irony? Who do you think holds them accountable?!!

I've never mentioned the Sun.

My issue as a licence payer is with his behaviour.

RegimentalSturgeon · 12/07/2023 21:13

I have a lot of time for The Sun and contrary to opinion on here, they can’t just make stuff up whenever they feel like it.

Tell me you’re not from Liverpool without telling me you’re not from Liverpool 🙄

Changeling78 · 12/07/2023 21:13

If he paid via a website, such websites have an age requirement of 18 so unless the lad mentioned his actual age then Huw would not have known.
What a fall from grace for him, I feel for his family.

LizzieSiddal · 12/07/2023 21:14

I have a lot of time for The Sun and contrary to opinion on here, they can’t just make stuff up whenever they feel like it.

Oh my goodness. Gullible doesn’t cover it.

Blinky21 · 12/07/2023 21:14

@Willyoujustbequiet ahh so you don't mean legally, you just mean you've decided that based on the Sun reporting and no other evidence

willstarttomorrow · 12/07/2023 21:14

Whilst this is morally questionable and as yet it is not known if there has been a criminal offence, what really stands out is the lack of care for the young person at the centre.

Their parent has put this in the public domain without their consent and we are only getting the parent's version. There is a lot of speculation that this young person is vulnerable, if an addict they probably are but they can also be manipulative. It is also very odd that the parents insist that the young person's addiction is because of the money, it is usually the other way. Having worked with addiction and then child protection/specialising in addiction for nearly 20 years the thing that worries me most is the parents of this young person. They are apparently estranged so their actions are really questionable . I have worked in child protection for nearly 2 decades, fractured families,drug addictions, etc are pretty standard. Even the most conflicted family with several issues can get to the point we can have a family group conference.

I am not dismissing what has happened, that a person is held to certain standards within their workplace, and if it happens to be the BBC you really have no come back.

Dovetail40 · 12/07/2023 21:15

Namechangey23 · 12/07/2023 21:05

@halfpintshandypants are you serious? Please tell me you are joking?! The Sun has FAMOUS HISTORY for making things up!! Google the Hillsborough diaster and what The Sun did to pour shame on the fans who died (and we are talking adults and children here) and blame them for it when none of it was true!! Many people in Liverpool and Merseyside still boycott The Sun now because of its actions and its flagrant disrespect of the dead. I wouldn't believe a single word of anything they write. Also THE SUN USED TO PUBLISH NAKED 16 YEAR OLDS EVERY EDITION ON PAGE 3! Do you not see the irony? Who do you think holds them accountable?!!

Disgusting the sun published pin ups of page three 16 year olds.
How soon they forget.
When i did.work experience in early 90s a whole wall was covered in the sun page three pin ups. This was an office environment and i was 17.
The sun can get stuffed with their high moral.ground.

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