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Would you be offended? Clothes shop

108 replies

LlME · 11/07/2023 13:45

Today, I saw a sustainable design er clothes shop. It caught my attention so I went in for a look.

I was rifling through some dresses. Out of my budget, but was just curious.

One of the shop assistants then redirects me to some clothes 'more my size'. I didn't ask for advice or give any signal that I needed help, I was simply looking around different bits.

I'm not quite sure what to make of that come t. To me it's a bit condescending to think you know better than I do about my own clothes size. It's also not nice to hear when your actively trying to make changes to your body and somebody essentially points out that nope- you haven't made any progress.

Anyway, just wondering what others make of this? Would you be offended if someone showed you where 'your size' without you asking?

OP posts:
Blossomtoes · 11/07/2023 16:18

It was rude.

GwinCoch · 11/07/2023 16:19

This also reminds me of the last time I was in France and held the door open for a woman with a pushchair. She automatically said: “Merci mademoiselle…” and then took a proper look at me and said: “Madame…? Pardon…?!” It’s a big thing to call women of a certain age Madame and not Mademoiselle and plenty of people get offended over their age being mistook - in the direction of not wanting to being considered a juvenile age. Personally you can call me Mademoiselle all day long - I’m 44 and I’ll just keep using moisturiser!

GwinCoch · 11/07/2023 16:21

HideousKinky · 11/07/2023 16:18

GwinCoch it was the inclusion of the word "even" that did it!

I’ll bet! 😂 In my head they were also really earnest when they said it!

willWillSmithsmith · 11/07/2023 16:26

oysterfox · 11/07/2023 13:47

not at all.

she's just trying to help

i think its more of a you problem stop being offended and learn to say thank you

That’s silly. The OP didn’t ask for help and she could have been looking for her daughter. Shop assistant was being presumptive, she should have just asked if she needed any help.

willWillSmithsmith · 11/07/2023 16:28

Limth · 11/07/2023 13:52

I personally wouldn't be offended but it was a rude and intrusive things to say.

You should've come back with "Actually its not for me, its for my husband Dave who's now decided to live as his authentic self, Trish Von TittyBags from now on. I'm just getting Trish some new clothes for her debut"

😂

Love it 😂

Hoppinggreen · 11/07/2023 16:28

I took my size 12 (back then) self shopping in a SE Asian country once.
I was greeted at the door with “nothing here for you, you too fat”

willWillSmithsmith · 11/07/2023 16:32

GoodChat · 11/07/2023 14:38

Why is it rude, though? If you're looking at size 8s when you need an 18 you're just wasting everybody's time.

That’s an interesting take on it. Whose time is being wasted (who is everybody?). But I will keep that in mind next time I’m mooching around M&S or Wilkos and not waste everyone’s time.

RhodaDendron · 11/07/2023 16:35

A shop assistant once tried to direct me, unprompted, to clothes for women ‘with a bigger bust’ which I thought was awful. I should have asked her why she was staring at my tits!
I think it’s unbelievably rude to direct without asking questions about what you’re actually looking for.

Dacadactyl · 11/07/2023 16:35

I wouldn't be offended. If you were shopping for your DD or someone else, you just need to say "oh it's not for me, but someone else"

The shop assistant has no idea that you don't like your size and is trying to be helpful.

RedBonnet · 11/07/2023 16:35

Yep, rude of her.

When I worked in clothes shops I got quite good at estimating a man's waist size and every time they asked for a smaller size not on the rail I would fetch the size they asked for without comment. Sometimes I would have the correct size discreetly hung on the fitting room rail as I knew they'd need the next size up (and it was always the clothes at fault, never their tummy).

I get irritated when shop staff ask if I need help. They're told to do this but it has the opposite effect than intended and I leave the shop. If I need help I'll ask (except B&Q where I always need help and there's never anyone to ask)

GoodChat · 11/07/2023 16:36

@willWillSmithsmith if you're not going to buy anything because you're looking at sizes you can't wear you're wasting your own time, the shop assistants time, and the time of any customer waiting for you to move away from the rails so they can look.

Anotherdayanotherdollar · 11/07/2023 16:40

No, I wouldn't be at all offended. I might think she was rude, but not offensive.
Although, tbf, I generally don't have any hang ups about clothes sizes. People can clearly see what size I am. I am much, much larger than the size label is!

Dacadactyl · 11/07/2023 16:46

Out of interest, what did the assistant look like?

If she was a size 24, would her comment have bothered you in the same way?

HeyManIJustWantSomeMuesli · 11/07/2023 16:46

I had a shop assistant look me up and down and say ‘hmm size ## for you?’ which was 3 - 4 dress sizes larger than I actually wear. I am the kind of shape that looks bigger than I am in certain clothes but not by that much, fairly sure she was just being horrible!

willWillSmithsmith · 11/07/2023 16:54

GoodChat · 11/07/2023 16:36

@willWillSmithsmith if you're not going to buy anything because you're looking at sizes you can't wear you're wasting your own time, the shop assistants time, and the time of any customer waiting for you to move away from the rails so they can look.

How are you wasting the shop assistants time? If someone else wants to see stuff and they don’t buy anything are they then wasting the time of another person? It’s ridiculous, you should be free to look at what you want in a shop without having t buy the ir

willWillSmithsmith · 11/07/2023 16:55

willWillSmithsmith · 11/07/2023 16:54

How are you wasting the shop assistants time? If someone else wants to see stuff and they don’t buy anything are they then wasting the time of another person? It’s ridiculous, you should be free to look at what you want in a shop without having t buy the ir

pressed too soon. You can still look through or at stuff without buying.

Dacadactyl · 11/07/2023 16:57

HeyManIJustWantSomeMuesli · 11/07/2023 16:46

I had a shop assistant look me up and down and say ‘hmm size ## for you?’ which was 3 - 4 dress sizes larger than I actually wear. I am the kind of shape that looks bigger than I am in certain clothes but not by that much, fairly sure she was just being horrible!

Depends on the shop tbh. I'm an 8 in tesco, but wouldn't be in topshop.

TheOrigRights · 11/07/2023 16:57

Rubycoola · 11/07/2023 16:07

@TheOrigRights often, retailers only want to display a certain number of sizes- for example 3 sizes.

Despite constant feedback that size 16 was the size every store needed, sales of size 16s were never as high as 8-14. Neither was size 6. Therefore in the retailers I worked for, 8-14 was (or a range from these sizes) was displayed with 6 and 16 available on request. It also wasn't a case of 16s not selling because they weren't displayed, when tests were carried out to push size 16s, sales didn't rise. Now, whether size 16 and above women assume that those type of retailers (Reiss, Jigsaw, Whistles, MV etc) don't stock their size or not, I don't know.

But it isn't a case of not wanting size 6 or 16 ladies to buy. Retailers want every sale possible but with limited space, will push what sells best.

(Personally, I included a mix of all sizes stocked on the shopfloor but I just wanted to say why it often doesn't happen and to reassure it isn't out of discrimination against 6s or 16s)

Thank you for explaining. I don't have a lot of experience, I could just see that my friend felt really self conscious when she had to ask for the sizes that weren't on the shop floor.

lieselotte · 11/07/2023 16:59

GoodChat · 11/07/2023 14:38

Why is it rude, though? If you're looking at size 8s when you need an 18 you're just wasting everybody's time.

Who says you are looking for yourself?

TheOrigRights · 11/07/2023 17:01

But you can't really tell a persons size unless its an obvious extreme. I think good seamstresses and tailors/fitters...are very good.

I've been to bridesmaids fitting where they just have to look at the woman to know what size to start with, and to mens outfitters where they look the chap up and down and know the inside leg, waist and collar size.

That won't be your average shop floor assistant though.

Ghastisflabbered · 11/07/2023 17:07

gemstoneju · 11/07/2023 15:15

Yes it's damn rude. The only exception would be if a customer was really petite, which wouldn't offend anyone. I am curious to know what shop keeps plus sizes in a separate area though. It would hardly draw customers in, would it?

But then why wouldn’t it be rude to say this to a “really petite” customer?

If it’s only fat people who should be offended at having their size pointed out…why is fat offensive?

Rubycoola · 11/07/2023 18:47

@TheOrigRights no problem!

I put a range of sizes out as although I know the reasons behind it, I know many customers did feel upset by their size being in the stockroom. And lots don't like to ask if they don't see any of their size out but will feel more positive about doing so if they can see a few things out in their size (we always try to let customers know we have more sizes but can't always speak to everyone!)

Also, in my 20 years of experience, across many stores and locations, very few sales assistants judge customers. The job can be boring, apathy can set in, which can be misconstrued as judgement but unless a customer is rude/annoying/loud etc, most of us don't judge. We see way too many people all day everyday to single normal people out!

Rubycoola · 11/07/2023 18:48

That last paragraph was just a general comment from a retail perspective, not aimed at anyone btw!

Wheredowe · 11/07/2023 18:50

Tactless but think no more about it.

JudgeRudy · 11/07/2023 18:55

I would be offended at someone correctly judging my size. I would be irritated at someone giving unsolicited advice or instruction. Surely the opener is 'How may I help you?' or similar.
Just curious but how exactly did the conversation go? Did the shop assistant come over to you and just randomly direct you to the larger clothes? Had you said you were looking for yourself? Was there a big difference in size eg you were looking at 8-12s and you're a 24?