When will climate change start affecting how much we can travel and where will be inaccessible soon?

[ohwhatafunday]

I have not done half the travelling I wanted to do, mostly due to illness during my twenties. But always hoped I could do more travelling over the years as and when I could manage, that there wouldn't be a hard stop.

With climate change I think some places will be unavailable to visit as a tourist relatively soon, like Fiji.

Where would you prioritise seeing in the next 10 or so years?

And when will air travel become prohibitively expensive or otherwise inaccessible to the average joe?

Obviously, this is very much a first world problem (actually not even a problem, just a consideration in terms of thinking and planning) and it clearly doesn't actually matter if I don't get to see other places in the world.

Whatever it means to me, and what I do or don't do, is none of your business. So stop picking on people.

Plans on seeing several new countries in the next few years. Adding to our list.

Happy travels :)

Me too, adding as many countries as I can to the list. Because you don't know when, illness or whatever reason, may stop you from travelling as has happened with many people I know.

In terms of travelling, I personally would prioritise going to:

Sweden, Norway, Iceland
Kenya
Australia, New Zealand
Canada

and lots of other countries. Getting there slowly.

@babbscrabbs Mistruths: That's a new word for me. Thank you but I speak the truth.
What about the person who says that fuel is finite. Well it might be but the end is not near. There is probably at least 50 years worth of oil and coal available maybe 100 years.

Unfortunately governments are listening to nutters like those in "Stop Oil" Not industry experts who could bring you that energy at reasonable prices with existing technology.
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I have a very long list of places I want to see. I'm also lucky that I get to travel with work. This year I've been to the US, Dublin and Berlin and will visit Prague and Paris in the next few months. Next year I'm off to Australia.

Other places on my list I'd love to see

Hawaii
New Zealand
Japan
Canada
Various other places in the US
Seychelles
Maldives
Lots more of the Caribbean
The place in Guadeloupe where they film Death in Paradise
Petra in Jordan
St Petersburg and Moscow (post Putin obv)
Cruise the Nile, Danube, Fjords
The Northern Lights in Iceland
Aruba

I could go on

Wtaf! Are you seriously saying that because there’s enough oil for another fifty years it’s all fine?!

wow. Your post just astonishes me.

I read that the Maldives will be in trouble in 10 years time.

I'd visit China too as hostility seems to be growing between them and the west so we might not be able to go there in the future.

Yeah, thing is if you are as old as me, you'll know they were saying that about the Maldives 30 years ago as well. Oddly enough it didn't happen - strange that.

Not that I give a toss, Love travelling (the process of getting from A to B - could happily sit on endless long haul flights) but hate holidays, so last time I was abroad for work was 23 years ago, and last holiday was 1992. Grow my own fruit and veg and walk everywhere I can as I love it, so I have no guilt on my shoulders (well apart from the fact that these days I teach people to drive, including last year a Just Stop Oil activist - ironic much!)

Mind you I used to be a research scientist in a climate related field and gave it up in part because of the bollocks that everyone was prepared to talk in order to get funding which I couldn't be doing with.

I'm an old fashioned environmentalist, so find myself in a real quandary. I agree with doing everything possible not to pollute and destroy the planet whilst being completely aware that most of the 'climate emergency' talk is at best extraordinarily generous in its interpretation of data and at worst a deliberate deception for capital gain. Until politicians accept that an emergency depopulation of the world by at least 50% is really the only solution to our problems, we are comprehensively donald ducked anyway.

Forgot to say no children either, in part because from a young age (early secondary school I would guess) I realised that over-population was by far the single biggest problem in the world and it would have been hypocritical to add to that given my belief.

Much of North Africa is now covered with sand, so I probably won't be going there anytime soon.

What a depressing thread. Some people are as thick as mince.

@RoyKentFanclub I should have emphasised that usable energy can be extracted from oil and coal by simple technologies that we all understand whereas we, the general public do not understand the cost of substituting with electricity.
Example 1: I understand that in Oxfordshire they propose to cover 2,000 hectares of good farm land with Solar Panels. Is this a good idea to stop growing crops on fertile land?
Example 2: Batteries for EVs. It is necessary to use more Nickel. Copper content of an EV is 50% more than a petrol car.
It is better to mine the sea bed for these metals because metal content of ores is much higher. Some claim 6 % metal. Most new copper mines have ores with a metal content of about 0.5%. The choice will be bulldozers on the sea bed or into the Amazon Basin or Greenland. We will have to choose. We have to tell our governments which we prefer.
Example 3: London Fire Brigade is attending 2 fires per week caused by bicycle batteries.

Caveat: The figures I have quoted are from memory and might be subject to rounding error. But the principle holds.

I understand that in Oxfordshire they propose to cover 2,000 hectares of good farm land with Solar Panels

I thought solar panels were a prime example of greenwashing tactics that sound great but are essentially just bread and circuses that won't solve anything?

@ohwhatafunday Exactly so, Greenwashing! this is even being encouraged by the LibDems.
Cary on making your travel plans and enjoy your trips.
Good Night

You two can carry on talking bollocks between you to justify your own selfish choices. You both know deep down you’re in the wrong.

Oh the irony. Flying to these places is one thing you could stop to try to keep them existing for a bit longer.

Your question should be: when will people realise they HAVE to stop flying to slow climate change

Like wealthy Russians, Saudis and Chinese?

Precisely. I don’t drive or have kids yet and and planning to vegan soon..also planning several holidays over the next year. It is what it is.

How do people justify this level of travel given the pollution it creates? I refuse to travel abroad because carbon emissions per flight are huge. I have a child, and want to be able to say I did my bit as best as I could.

Most of my travel is for work. Obviously when travelling overseas flights are essential.

Within the UK (again for work) I mostly fly because it's much cheaper and faster than rail.

I do fly for holidays and I do it for pleasure. I'm afraid I will keep doing so as long as legal and affordable.

Ok. And the contribution to pollution?

How did you justify having a child?

I have a child, and want to be able to say I did my bit as best as I could.

That is an oxymoron.

You had your child for your own selfish reasons. That's completely fine and I support your doing what you decided gave life meaning for you. Humans do what suits themselves, within reason.

Don't sit piously pretending that you had your kid for the good of humanity.

I just can't take seriously the view of anyone performing righteous outrage in my direction for taking holidays, if they decided to have a child.

There is a small window left to take holidays and fly for leisure and I will take flights within that window - when it is legal, and not out of reach financially.

it won't be the climate change, it will be other changes, making travel inaccessible and actually the least of our worries. Remember covid lockdowns and scaremongering

@ohwhatafunday Ignore the hypocrites who are bashing you. The bullshit about climate change is insane. When celebrity and the super rich are banned from using yachts and private planes I might listen. You plan your list, go anywhere and everywhere that YOU want to go and enjoy every minute!

When celebrity and the super rich are banned from using yachts and private planes I might listen.

This^