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When will climate change start affecting how much we can travel and where will be inaccessible soon?

154 replies

ohwhatafunday · 07/07/2023 16:25

I have not done half the travelling I wanted to do, mostly due to illness during my twenties. But always hoped I could do more travelling over the years as and when I could manage, that there wouldn't be a hard stop.

With climate change I think some places will be unavailable to visit as a tourist relatively soon, like Fiji.

Where would you prioritise seeing in the next 10 or so years?

And when will air travel become prohibitively expensive or otherwise inaccessible to the average joe?

Obviously, this is very much a first world problem (actually not even a problem, just a consideration in terms of thinking and planning) and it clearly doesn't actually matter if I don't get to see other places in the world.

OP posts:
JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:21

ohwhatafunday · 07/07/2023 17:20

I admire your balls for having kids, as per your username.

I don't.

My carbon footprint is smaller than yours, I suspect.

People always pick out travel as the bad guy.

But people drive, have children, eat meat, and do many other things that contribute on a daily basis.

StefanosHill · 07/07/2023 17:23

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 16:59

Off top of my head, Venice, parts of Australia, NZ, the cook straight islands and Pacific islands like Tonga, Samoa.

I thought NZ was on the world’s bunker list - for rich enough people

PeachesOnTheBeaches · 07/07/2023 17:24

Travel should never be restricted for anyone.

IBelieveInAThingCalledScience · 07/07/2023 17:24

The Dead Sea

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:25

StefanosHill · 07/07/2023 17:23

I thought NZ was on the world’s bunker list - for rich enough people

It could well be. I visited the museum in Auckland which showed the impact of weather on NZ over time, but period it's further down the list than other places.

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:25

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:25

It could well be. I visited the museum in Auckland which showed the impact of weather on NZ over time, but period it's further down the list than other places.

Sorry, Wellington.

Showerscraper · 07/07/2023 17:26

PeachesOnTheBeaches · 07/07/2023 17:24

Travel should never be restricted for anyone.

🤨 really??

Cakesandbabes · 07/07/2023 17:27

IBelieveInAThingCalledScience · 07/07/2023 17:24

The Dead Sea

It's nice. You can fly with easyjet uk to Aqaba and travel up. Workouts quite cheaper than Amman flights usually plus you land near Petra and Wadi rum

BunnyBettChetwynd · 07/07/2023 17:29

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:08

One of the biggest ways people could help climate change is by not eating meat. Noones doing that en masse so why should people not travel while they can? As life becomes more dystopian, damn right I'll go on holiday if I want to

People are eating considerably less meat https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58831636

Eating hamburger

UK public now eating significantly less meat

Britons are cutting their meat consumption, but not quickly enough, according to scientists.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58831636

Cakesandbabes · 07/07/2023 17:32

RachelNoire · 07/07/2023 17:18

Many did that for COP so all’s good with flying here there and everywhere! Yay!!

Apparently COP26 created as much emmissions as 8000 average uk people in a year.

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:33

BunnyBettChetwynd · 07/07/2023 17:29

People are eating considerably less meat https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58831636

Not in numbers large enough to elicit change.

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:35

Back on track with the question, I think Maldives are up there. Not sure Hawaii is up there as a risk but I've always wanted to go.

BunnyBettChetwynd · 07/07/2023 17:38

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:33

Not in numbers large enough to elicit change.

But it is going in the right direction.

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:40

BunnyBettChetwynd · 07/07/2023 17:38

But it is going in the right direction.

That is promising. But when the powers that be decide travel is a no go they'll price most of us out if it anyway. Until then, why not.

BringItOnxxx · 07/07/2023 17:41

I'm embarrassed by this thread.

Holidays in other people's misery.

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:42

BringItOnxxx · 07/07/2023 17:41

I'm embarrassed by this thread.

Holidays in other people's misery.

Do you ever drive a car?

Had a McDonald's?

Had a child? Or more than one?

Eat beef, chicken or fish and chips?

Stickybackplasticbear · 07/07/2023 17:43

I think we getting there with the price of fule and inflation. So not because it's too hot to go places but because fule is a fineit resource and getting very expensive. I think it will be a slow creep with lots of different factors causing problems. Rather than one thing and even then it will be a situation where it becomes inaccessible to the poorest first. For many things not just travel.

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:43

What is wrong with asking when climate change will impact travel (which is something that has been normalised for decades for many now)?

lieselotte · 07/07/2023 17:47

It's the superrich who need to curb their habits. I have a friend who is a nanny to a very high net worth family. They fly her all over the place on a private jet. Even a helicopter.

BringItOnxxx · 07/07/2023 17:51

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:42

Do you ever drive a car?

Had a McDonald's?

Had a child? Or more than one?

Eat beef, chicken or fish and chips?

Not sure that's equivalent to jetting off to gawp and places that are facing being wiped off the face of the earth. Dark tourism is not something I'd feel good about personally.

And yes I've not been on a flight in many years. Don't have a car, don't eat meat. Have 1 child for my sins. Don't think it's about that, it's just a very grim attitude to be honest.

Toohotforchips · 07/07/2023 17:52

Blimey, OP. I could think of better Bucket travel lists. Yours is shit.

If you really must, I'd add as things to see before they die - The Great Barrier Reef, polar bears, Cape Town (won't be much fun without any drinking water), and probably many of the world's great coastal cities. Who knows, you might even learn someting on your travels.

JamSandle · 07/07/2023 17:53

BringItOnxxx · 07/07/2023 17:51

Not sure that's equivalent to jetting off to gawp and places that are facing being wiped off the face of the earth. Dark tourism is not something I'd feel good about personally.

And yes I've not been on a flight in many years. Don't have a car, don't eat meat. Have 1 child for my sins. Don't think it's about that, it's just a very grim attitude to be honest.

Im sorry but you could say that about anything.

The avocados that are shipped and flown around the world.

The non local and seasonal way most people eat.

If climate change is going to eradicate these things anyway, why shouldn't people see them? Or should only the very rich, who will do it anyway, be allowed?

BunnyBettChetwynd · 07/07/2023 17:54

It's like smoking really fast in the hope of having as many fags as you can before they make you and everyone around you seriously ill.

crossstitchingnana · 07/07/2023 17:55

difficultlemons · 07/07/2023 16:57

Yes let's all get on flights while we can

Was my thought too 🙄. I clicked thinking it was about how to save the planet, not get all the kicks I can before it burns. Ffs.

GasPanic · 07/07/2023 17:56

I like people who own their environment impact.

It's the hypocrites who basically say its ok to fly long haul because we planted a tree somewhere or put a yogurt pot in the recycling that really annoy me.

There is no way of reducing the environmental impact of air travel other than not doing it.