When will climate change start affecting how much we can travel and where will be inaccessible soon?

[ohwhatafunday]

I have not done half the travelling I wanted to do, mostly due to illness during my twenties. But always hoped I could do more travelling over the years as and when I could manage, that there wouldn't be a hard stop.

With climate change I think some places will be unavailable to visit as a tourist relatively soon, like Fiji.

Where would you prioritise seeing in the next 10 or so years?

And when will air travel become prohibitively expensive or otherwise inaccessible to the average joe?

Obviously, this is very much a first world problem (actually not even a problem, just a consideration in terms of thinking and planning) and it clearly doesn't actually matter if I don't get to see other places in the world.

Yeah I do find it a bit crass tbh.

Fair enough wanting to travel but there's something a bit off about wanting to go to places directly impacted by global warming when travelling there is one of the causes.

Having said that, more pollution is caused by the fashion industry... Stop buying polyester and fast fashion, people!

This is all great @RoyKentFanclub but if you are passionate about it also put your energy into calling for systemic change because that's the most effective way of making a difference

I'm pretty sure climate scientists will say it's not debatable whatsoever that human activity impacts global warming.

And I think we can all agree climate scientists are the experts.

So not sure where you're getting that mistruth from.

It's not just warming either impacted by co2. Acidification of the ocean, for example. It's even making hay fever worse.

Let's all rush to speed up climate change shall we.....

This 👌

It’s not on my list but I’m pretty sure the Maldives are going to be underwater soon 😳

We stopped flying a couple of years ago, I can’t do it in good conscience. Waiting patiently for carbon-neutral or carbon-negative transport.

Train travel really needs to take up the slack from long-haul flights which probably should be rationed.

Train networks have been improving greatly, so it's possible to get all around Europe and beyond. Just look at Seat61.com. It just takes more time, so we'll need longer holidays/sabbaticals etc.

There you go - the Blue Peter guide to solving climate change.

The whole premise of this thread is so crass that I’m struggling to believe it’s not satire.

Most people end up alone in nursing homes or with carers.

Anyone who has kids and bashed the OP is a hypocrite.

Having children is one of the most un-environmentally one can do...

Absolutely!

Bought your kid a phone made by a factory worker in China?

Or things from Primark?

That all travels too.

As long as people don't though, just the things they want...

Or things from Primark?

In fairness to Primark, I have t shirts and shirts from there that are between 12 and 18 years old that I wear regularly!

It's interesting. They are fast fashion now but I think going back a few years, the quality of some of the basics was very good and made to last.

Indeed, with nurses who are considerably younger than themselves.

This is the killer argument by the childfree who think it absolves them from any responsibility whatsoever. I guess it's easier to live with your bad decisions because at they won't affect your own flesh and blood.

It doesn't absolve anyone of responsibility but travel is not the worst thing a person can do.

I won't have a normal lifespan thanks to my health, so you will be pleased to hear I will not be wasting the time of young nurses in a home.

Additionally, I live in a country with Medical Aid in Dying. When I am too disabled and can no longer function adequately, I can legally take care of matters in a humane way. I won't be lingering and wasting everyone's time and resources, don't worry.

Not according to the stats: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2019/jul/19/carbon-calculator-how-taking-one-flight-emits-as-much-as-many-people-do-in-a-year

Most nurses in the UK are poached from overseas. So while children aren't looking after there parents, we are poaching nursing talent from other countries to look after us. Not ethical either is it?

Hopefully medical euthanasia will be in the future.

Statistics indicate flying contributes to around 2-3% of emissions.

Air conditioners, aerosols, deforestation, farming, fridges and insulation all contribute too.

I can’t stuff my children back inside, though, they won’t fit. I can stop flying, among many other things.

Incorrect. I am just as conscious about my personal carbon footprint as the next man.

I do not go above and beyond just because I chose not to have children...

Flying to these locations will add to climate change, OP...

Ok and? Your children amplify your family's carbon footprint. That has nothing to do with anybody else.

It's not my responsibility to reduce my own carbon footprint any further just because you decided to have kids.

I am happy to support you in not flying, that's cool. I will not be doing the same however, for as long as it suits me.

You know - just like it suited you to not consider the plight of all the children already on the planet, and the ramifications of population explosion and what that means for the climate and subsequent generations, when you actively chose to have your own kids.

You had your kids because it suited you to do so, and that's the reality.