To ask if anyone else feels like the covid era is a bad dream

[23rMarch2020]

Whenever I think of 2020 or 2021 it just doesn’t feel real at all. The lockdowns for months on end, the clapping for the NHS, the track and trace system, entire school years being sent home because a single case was discovered, panic buying, people developing intricate methods of sanitising their shopping, public shaming of rule breakers, religious holidays being stopped at very short notice. It’s all so bizarre to think of that this was in our country so recently and, really, there’s nothing to stop any of it happening again. In so many ways it just feels like a different world, my DS who had his GCSE’s cancelled is about to go off to uni (if he gets the grades 🤞) and my then little year 7 DD is doing her own GCSE’s next year. I guess my Aibu is to ask if anyone else feels so totally disconnected from that era to the extent it’s all like a bad dream?

It's nice that you enjoyed lockdown but it's insensitive not to realise that it was hell for others and had very serious consequences for many including abused children. But for that poster to say that they'd mandate a 3 month lockdown if they could(Which I know will never bappen) is staggeringly selfish and shortsighted

It's nice that you enjoyed lockdown but it's insensitive not to realise that it was hell for others and had very serious consequences for many including abused children. But for that poster to say that they'd mandate a 3 month lockdown if they could(Which I know will never bappen) is staggeringly selfish and shortsighted

And who doesn't realise that it was hell for others exactly?

God alive. And I would have thought it only takes the most basic sense of irony to know that it was a tongue in cheek comment from that poster.

Source?
Assuming true, 200 out of how many vaccinations?
How does that percentage compare against expected adverse reactions to other common vaccinations?
How does that number look placed in the context of estimated lives saved as a result of vaccinations (which I have seen estimated to be in the tens of thousands for Scotland)?

Thanks

God alive. And I would have thought it only takes the most basic sense of irony to know that it was a tongue in cheek comment from that poster.

Go read some of their other batshit/provocative posts and come back to me on that one.

And who doesn't realise that it was hell for others exactly?

There were plenty of people over lockdown downplaying how hard it was for others while boasting how wonderful it was for them.

I know exactly what you mean Op.
The whole thing is surreal.
I saw an elderly lady with a mask on the other day and it looked really strange. To think that was our reality a few years ago

Go read some of their other batshit/provocative posts and come back to me on that one.

No not doing a study on a poster. If they're just being provocative you're rising to it tbh.

@Sweetashunni absolutely- hindsight is an amazing thing

There were plenty of people over lockdown downplaying how hard it was for others while boasting how wonderful it was for them.

So you weren't actually addressing me then?

There is so much of this " well people said this" or " people said that" . Yep this a SM Site actually jam packed with MAD people you wouldn't discuss anything with in real life. It's a self fulfilling prophecy complaining on here about what people said on here.

Assuming true, 200 out of how many vaccinations?

If 200 people dropped dead from some tainted food or drink, you wouldn't downplay it

did you wait for Covid to realise that ANY vaccination has a risk? Any medication has a risk too.

Assuming that’s a good faith question about why fear Covid more than norovirus or flu,

• its not the acute infection that particularly concerns me (much like HIV which initially presents as a mild flu like illness but has serious & dangerous long term problems. SARS2 isn’t HIV but I mention HIV as an example of an acute “mild” illness where we all know now that the initial days of feeling shit isn’t actually the real problem)

It is the long term SARS-CoV-2 sequelae that I seek to avoid by swerving repeat mass infection. This includes

brain damage
cardiovascular damage
immunological damage
anywhere ACE2 receptors in the body can be found can be damaged in fact

There is no benefit and indeed, great harm from repeatedly catching this virus. I see more and more are realizing that the bad dream isn’t in fact over. And my heart goes out to those living with long Covid which is a shit, cruel disease. As I said, I have friends now disabled by Covid. As well as friends who died.

I will continue to take basic mitigations in the medium short term until better treatments & vaccines are available - there is already positive info coming about this. As I said, it’s no big deal to adjust to reality. I am happy to wear a good mask (fitted FFP3) if attending a concert etc, eating outside is pleasant, takeout if it rains, shopping in a mask is easy. Those damp cloth masks people wore are pretty useless and uncomfortable. But a proper respiratory is easy to wear and effective: DH wore one for hours on site pre-covid working in high-particulate environments with his team.

anyway, good luck to all I hope everyone manages to stay well

I haven’t read through the thread because I know there’ll be those “I loved lockdown, it was sooooo lovely to slow down etc” posts, generally from people who were furloughed or are SAHPs.

I still find it really hard to read or hear that as I found the lockdowns so traumatic.

Im a single parent (kids were 6 and 11 at the time) and have / had a very busy public sector job that couldn’t be furlonghed but wasn’t counted as key in the first lockdown so couldn’t send youngest to school. The stress of trying to homeschool a 6 yo and work full time neatly killed me, plus not being able to any other adult at all. And the screen time my ds had to have, and lack of adequate education at that key time in his early education has done lasting damage to him.

It's from Public Health Scotland - not an FOI request made by me personally, but the ones I have requested look exactly the same - same formatting and fonts, so I'm satisfied it's from the same source.

I can't actually find the total vaccination numbers for Scotland as of 31 May, to compare with the deaths. Last figure I can see is the 1.3 million who had been vaxxed by mid-2021. Odd that the figure is not immediately available, but please take a look.

I don't know the answer to your third question, but do you think this number of deaths would be considered acceptable in any other context - and when the majority of healthy under-50s are at virtually no risk from Covid itself? In the past, vaccines have been withdrawn if deaths hit more than 50.

"Estimated lives saved as a result of vaccination" - this is so woolly - honestly, how is there any way of knowing this? It's impossible. I have seen stats saying that 22,000 people need to be vaxxed to prevent one death from Covid - but that cardiac arrests and myocarditis increase fivefold following mass vaccination, which kinda cancels out that "benefit" ......

https://www.bma.org.uk/bma-media-centre/first-major-survey-of-doctors-with-long-covid-reveals-debilitating-impact-on-health-life-and-work-and-wider-implications-for-workforce-and-health-services

There are STILL people on NHS threads who will tell you to get a taxi to hospital if you can so as to put less pressure on the ambulance service. In my area pre lockdowns a local cab firm had FIFTY drivers. Now they have NINETEEN. Because so many of them quit and never went back. Its a real struggle now to get a cab anywhere in my town. Let alone to the nearest A+E 12 miles away. So an ambulance it would have to be.

Why? Everyone is not the same? I said earlier I enjoyed lockdown

So you think "I think there should be a lockdown every year for 3 months" is a reasonable proposition? That's exactly what that poster said.

So you think "I think there should be a lockdown every year for 3 months" is a reasonable proposition? That's exactly what that poster said.

So you think it's reasonable to have absolutely no sense of irony or tongue in cheek?

‘For once I could do fuck all and not feel guilty about it’

Yes. There were some groups who enjoyed it. Introverts, the socially inept, the financially secure and the lazy.

Not all introverts enjoyed it. I'm one and lockdown was utterly shit.

Yes. There were some groups who enjoyed it. Introverts, the socially inept, the financially secure and the lazy.

Also some ND children thrived I understand.

But tbh that's a pretty sweeping statement.

So you can live your life in fear of long Covid and the fact you have close experiences of it has clearly clouded your view.

Most are happy to crack on with their lives. I have zero ill effects from any Covid infection and neither does anyone I know.

Hoping it’s just you in your family that feels like this and you haven’t passed this fear on to any children.

I’ve had 3 vaccinations and I’m done with them. Not anti vax but I wouldn’t have any more. Not now my own immune system seems to recognise and fight Covid. There is also a genetic element to your response and nobody in my family (even the elderly) have had anything more than a bad cold. No lasting effects .

I definitely wouldn’t be holding out any hope for a more effective vaccine (the ones we have a great for preventing serious disease in a novel virus).

@Delatron erm, I used fear when replying to a person saying no reason to fear Covid more than norovirus etc.
but I have also explained repeatedly that I am living a normal life. My whole family are.
The only adjustment is that I pop on a proper respirator mask when I am in a shop or on a tube/plane watching a show and you presumably don’t. That’s not a lock down. That is not living in fear. That is literally putting something protective on my face when sharing air with random people. It serves me well. It works. Shame so many folk seem so scared to protect themselves because of, presumably, conformity anxiety or post-lockdown trauma or lack of knowledge about what repeat bouts of Covid does to the body.

I also have airbags in my car and wear a seatbelt. I use an umbrella when it rains. Wear a cycle helmet when cycling.
Risk assessment includes reasonable protective and realistic adjustments.
NBD.