To want to escape the ghetto

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I have name changed for this for obvious reasons.

I live in a part of London that has long resisted gentrification, and has a stubbornly high (and rising) crime rate. Stabbings, and even shootings, are far too common. Neighbours have witnessed shootings, with their children. The local secondaries are seen as finishing schools for criminals, with a lot of gang involvement, and knives carried around.

I really worry about my children when they reach secondary school age. I would sooner home school than send them to the local secondaries, but I don't have the ability to home school due to working. I work as a junior doctor, but the wages are low, especially for London.

Any suggestions for an area with decent schools that doesn't break the bank? I would need 4+ bedrooms. Even open to buying land and building, anything to escape.

Up to a million? WTF

Move up north and rent for a bit. Take a year off work to settle yourself and the family then buy an awesome house for £500k

Lots of people use the word ghetto, especially those who live in it. Maybe not so much in the UK though.

Lotsofpots · Today 12:17
Wanstead, Woodford, Leyton or Leytonstone. All have four beds within budgets, a range of schools, and are lovely areas to live “

My older brother lives in Leytonstone. He’s a big, scary biker. I don’t have much to do with him, my mum tells me he’s looking to move out because it’s so unsafe

I have never heard anyone from Tottenham (other than OP) use the word "ghetto".

Nooneknowswhatgoesonbehindcloseddoors · Today 23:00
ChangeIsInevitable · Today 22:13

Lots of people use the word ghetto, especially those who live in it. Maybe not so much in the UK though.
I have never heard anyone from Tottenham (other than OP) use the word "ghetto".

My friend Yvonne lives in Tottenham. She’s never said ghetto to me but has often said shithole. Not sure what the technical difference is.

‘My friend Yvonne lives in Tottenham. She’s never said ghetto to me but has often said shithole. Not sure what the technical difference is.’

It is the history of the word ghetto that’s the issue.

Regarding the nomenclature, I have already apologised. I was looking for one word to describe a run down area with high crime and gang issues. I didn't realise the racial connotations. Another one has been proposed.

I find it rediculous how people can make assumptions based on one word, and generalise the use of language amongst a diverse group of people.

You are a doctor so I assume you are clever. Language matters. It isn’t just a word - it comes with all sorts of associations.

I challenge you to write on the record of one of your patients that they come from the ghetto and see how it plays out. See what I mean?

By the way I am not criticising or attacking you I just want to make a general point. I didn’t grow up in Tottenham but lived there for a while (I grew up on a council estate in another part of London). I am not white.

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Ghetto has specific connotations. Anywhere can be a shithole. You could even imagine Camilla describing Buck Palace as a shithole. .

Are you really a doctor? Do you not know how to spell 'ridiculous'?! Never mind the whole 'not understanding ghetto' business.

Oh gosh, they are all coming out of the woodwork now. You are clearly trying to get a reaction, which I won't rise to. I wonder what it is about your lives that is so unfulfilling that compels you to behave this way?

Not busy “junior doctoring” thus morning? Thought you guys were overworked…

I wonder what it is about your lives that is so unfulfilling that compels you to behave this way?

Are you playing forum Bingo? Lol

*this morning

She wouldn’t be so vulgar.

I agree. This is weird. My doctors' notes are riddled with misspellings and these are medical reports, consultation notes, etc never mind posts on a chat forum.

Also being clever or being a doctor has never meant knowing it all; it simply means knowing what you need to know to be a doctor. Why does a doctor need to know that some people on mumsnet will hang onto her using a word that's so prevalent in society (and not in a racist manner. I hardly hear it said that way) to describe exactly what she wanted to describe?

Whether this thread is genuine or not, these expectations and accusations are bizarre and quite frankly amusing.

No decent person would. As for people suggesting the word “ghetto” can be disassociated from its history, that is ridiculous. The suggestion that people in the UK might not use it is equally silly. It is a word that has very specific historical connotations and to use it to describe any old area is unacceptable.

Your doctor might be illiterate. The majority of doctors are not.

Talking of illiteracy, there are many other ways to describe a less salubrious area. You do not have to use an offensive term.

It is used in the US and other countries all the time. Silly and arrogant to think your worldview is the ultimate. OP was describing where she lives and for specific reasons. It's always been used that way. Those who made it racial should take a look at themselves and how they think.

Whether this thread is genuine or not, these expectations and accusations are bizarre and quite frankly amusing.

Bingo!

Oh dear.

Lol...okay.

Doctors', not doctor's. Obviously not one but sure they are all illiterate, says someone on mumsnet because an OP used the word ghetto.

Offensive to who?