Chrissy Teigen surrogacy

[HermioneKipper]

Just announced a 4th baby via a surrogate.

Its just so breathtakingly entitled to buy a woman’s body - especially when you already have 3 children?!

No regard for the safety of the surrogate’s body or thought for the baby who would be ripped from their mother at birth.

These people sicken me

I suspect if payment for surrogacy were made illegal we'd see it more or less stop happening. Altruistic surrogacy is legal in some countries which ban commercial surrogacy.

I suppose in the future they will be able to grow the babies in robotic wombs.

I have much stronger anger towards them having more than 2 kids-especially when they already have a very high carbon lifestyle

Haven’t RTFT so someone may have already said this but it’s Human Trafficking, plain and simple. It should be illegal.

Chocolatelover3 extremely distressing stillbirth and miscarriages here. Still vehemently opposed to surrogacy.

If I couldn't have had a child after my stillbirth or miscarriages I would just have had to get on with it. Morally hiring another, and it will always be another poorer, woman's womb, at huge risk to her, and removing a baby from their mother (yes, I am using that to describe the woman who carried and birthed the baby) is wrong any way you look at it.

OP YANBU

What on earth do you mean by "picking through a brochure" to choose a child?!

I'm adopted and I don't remember my parents saying they chose me from a brochure..! Most people who adopt have to be thoroughly assessed, vetted, and every aspect of their lives analysed to ensure they are suitable by social services. They certainly don't get to choose the child they want from a brochure of a range of children with every hair colour going! 😳

Its 'wrong' to deliberately create a baby to be taken immediately to a family who will love that child, but OK to deliberately create a child for crack head, abusive parents, who will condem that child to a life of misery or worse?

OK....

So it’s fine for the surrogate to “sell” her body but wrong for her to buy” the surrogate’s body which was for sale?

I'm not a fan of surrogacy or Christie, but I did read her statement about her surrogacy journey and I have to say I felt it came across as less transactional than other surrogacy announcements I've seen.

She appears to have formed a bond with the surrogate beforehand and also it seems the surrogate knew Christie was pregnant already and had been going through IVF herself, so she would have been fully aware she was carrying the potential 4th child.

She has also given her baby a middle name in honour of the surrogate and implies she sees her as being part of her family now.

I suppose what I'm saying is, if it’s going to happen, I think that at least treating the surrogate as a human being rather than a faceless baby carrier is the best of a bad situation.

The planning was meticulous, I won't lie.
It was discussed before hand with the older DC as he'd experienced the worst one of my pregnancies. (Severity has differed with all.)
We made sure we had all children in fulltime school, plus a good support network to hand.
It's tough, but with DP adjusting hours to suit and help from friends (who all had offered support before we tried) it's been manageable.
I've booked things for DP to do with the younger ones each month, so special visits to places, (Julia Donaldson character theatre shows etc) or my friends have taken them to parties for me. It's been lots of keeping them busy so they don't miss out on day to day stuff, having bigger activities to look forward too.
Older DC has been incredible, (without being asked, ever!) And will wake up early of a weekend and take out his siblings the park and for ice cream or to the local soft play. (Very local, 5 minutes walk away) and its gone quite quickly for them.

All we can do it what feels right for our families and mine has had lots of grief over recent years, this felt right for us. It's not really for anyone else to understand, this is my last time ever doing this and we're all excited for baby to arrive.

The woman has suffered awful tragedy and must be heartbroken over the loss of her son. I really do get that. I've "only" miscarried once and boy that was tough enough for me.

But this makes me realise how unpredictable pregnancy and birth can be and outsourcing it land all the potential problems (there was a thread on MN earlier this week from a poor second time mum who had a frighteningly fast labour and was struggling mentally after. All the other posts just remind us that so much can go wrong) plus the fact I think selling or giving babies away (it isn't the same as adoption) is vile, their choice doesn't sit right with me.

Totally agree. Surrogacy disregards the child entirely, and exploits poor or otherwise vulnerable women.

Don’t blame the victim.

Disgusting men who buy women’s bodies for sex are cool with you too presumably 🙄

But using a surrogate when you already have three beautiful children is kind of obscene IMO.

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I agree

Deary me.....

But she isn't the mother though, is she OP?

She is the gestational carrier. Huge difference.

She isn't being held against her will, is she OP? No. Didn't think so.

She’s an odd one. Some of the tweets people picked up were so disturbing.

She is disgusting and rotten to the core, so nothing surprises me with her.

This lack of vetting is exceedingly worrying.

How easy would it be for a wealthy person with less than honourable intentions to commission a baby?

The one where in the 21 st Century it is perfectly legal to buy a baby, just as long as you buy it while it is in Utero.

It is NOT of course OK to go out on to the street, advertise on eBay or Craig’s list, and offer to buy or sell a baby that is already born. Goodness me no, that would be horrific, uncivilised, abuse every human rights act known to man, amount to slavery, human trafficking, child abuse , cause untold emotional damage to the child etc etc etc.

I’m pleased it’s all worked out for you and you sound like you thought about it carefully etc - it’s your life so crack on.

But why don’t you ask your older child in 10/20 years as I imagine their recollection will change by then. You’ve put an awful lot of very adult responsibility on their shoulders because you’re so desperate to have another baby.

Your mates taking them to a party isn’t the same as their mother literally being out of action for up to 9 months.

Anyway, hope all goes well for you

Gestational carrier? Eurgh, what a horrible, dehumanising term. She is the mother. The baby started life as a sperm and an egg, just like all the other humans on the planet, but from the moment the embryo was implanted into the surrogate mother's body it was her body that provided all the material for the embryo to grow. There will have been an exchange of genetic material at some level, I believe. She gave birth to the baby and her body will have started producing milk to feed the baby, which that baby will now not benefit from.

Yes she’s the mother. She nourished and gave birth to the child.

MOTHER.

Terms like gestational carrier are used to dehumanise women

I read a piece with her talking about this where she said something along the lines of ‘I always dreamed of having four children and used to carry around four dolls with me when I was a kid, so this is a dream come true’.

It was all about HER. Her fantasies, her desires, her wants…me, me, ME. Such a breathtaking lack of self awareness and just shows how spoilt, selfish, emotionally immature, completely entitled and detached from reality these celebs who buy babies are.

I think surrogate should be outlawed. It’s despicable.

It's supposed to be about the baby.

Do surrogates really do this through choice?
If it's a true choice, why are there not at least a few rich women doing this for poorer women?

Is the woman really choosing this when (I guess) they get paid very well.

Far too easy. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/19/man-who-sexually-abused-surrogate-twin-baby-daughters-jailed-for-22-years