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Should I speak some home truths?

111 replies

Clareanscombe1964 · 28/06/2023 13:51

Before I get into this story I should prefix that at different periods of time I’ve really struggled with bad relationships and money so what I’m about to say is not meant to seem judgemental at all.
There is a mum of a child in my dad class at school, the children are pretty good friends. We got chatting one time before Christmas and the topic of presents came up where became apparent quite quickly that she was struggling to get her child gifts and that by comparison we were in a fortunate position to be able to buy things for ours. The conversation honestly made me feel really bad and it was a prompt for me to reevaluate the meaning of gifts. Anyway it was after this that she asked me to go food shopping with her to keep her company. All the way round she was hinting that she couldn’t afford the shopping and she how she was so
worried she couldn’t cover it. I felt at the time trying to guilt me into paying for it. I was left a little annoyed.
regardless she asked me to lend her some
money to help with food, a few weeks later and as I could I did. But the messages
for money have increased and on more than one occasion have made less sense. In context I’ve given her probably 500
now. But I would send her 120 only to get a message two days later saying she had no
food again. I’ve had to stop as we are also feeling the squeeze and need to prioritise my kids. She promised a small
amount back, which is the only
part I’ve asked for due to
my phone bill, it didn’t come which left me
with late payments to manage. I feel pretty used and am
left thinking there’s more to this than simply money worries, to go through that much cash in a short period. She has a boyfriend living with her which without going into
detail, he’s contributing nothing, won’t look for work but is happy to eat all the food and take money from her account that was meant for bills. My previous caveat re relationships was important as I know how hard they can be but she’s openly said she’s not afraid to tell him to go. I said to her that he is happy to take take take so that her son basically goes hungry but she is also
guilty of allowing it to continue.
the last random request was that her sister was in trouble and she needed money for a taxi to go and help her. I said no.
But what’s really annoyed me is that her bf sister is staying with them and this morning they were asking for food from the school for apparently her son. Not only do I feel
mugged off but there are also
other kids struggling and knowing there is Something amiss here with the money I’m frustrated she’s taking resources away from
others. To be honest I want to block her but feel uneasy due to the kids friendship group. I don’t know if it’s drugs or what but something is going on and feel she needs some home truths. Am i being unreasonable?

OP posts:
Raquelos · 28/06/2023 14:02

Accept that you are probably not getting what you have already lent her back and then just stop lending her money. A straight, sorry I can't afford that should be enough, just repeat as required. She sounds like a right CF who has taken advantage of you, but given your concerns about the friendship group I wouldn't go down the home truths path unless you are prepared to walk away entirely.

poetryandwine · 28/06/2023 14:03

’Speaking home truths’ won’t do any good. I would just block her, maybe first texting links to local food banks, CAB, etc and explaining that I needed to prioritise my own family

Clareanscombe1964 · 28/06/2023 14:06

Honestly other than the one time I’ve said that I don’t want any of it back, I’ve been through money struggles myself and do know how hard it is. You’re right prob best to distance myself and be polite but leave it alone. I think just seeing her get food for her partner and his sister really annoyed me but not worth the hassle

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SchoolShenanigans · 28/06/2023 14:12

£500?!

Screamingabdabz · 28/06/2023 14:14

She is a grabby scrounger and probably because she wants to hold on to the useless boyfriend to prop up her non existent self esteem. None of this is your responsibility.

Why would you part with £500 to give to these chaotic waste of spaces? Please put strong boundaries in place and don’t give them any more money. If they want to feed their children and buy Christmas presents they must do the adult thing and take responsibility for themselves.

AmbleInAnnBoleyn · 28/06/2023 14:18

Please just block her, ignore any in-person efforts made to extract more money from you. The money you gave her is gone, accept that as your exit fee from her grubby grabby mitts.

Clareanscombe1964 · 28/06/2023 14:21

I guess because I know there’s a little kid in the middle of it who if he gets something
from it, it might mean he doesn’t go hungry. I l know that’s not my problem ultimately.

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Sprinkles211 · 28/06/2023 15:14

Surely if she's asking the school for food for her son they would of triggered some sort of safeguarding or duty of care assessment? But no do not give her anymore money

Inertia · 28/06/2023 15:17

I would report to the safeguarding lead at school- it may be that the child is being neglected if there is genuinely no food.

Meeting · 28/06/2023 15:30

I'd send her a very clear message, if you lose the 'friendship' then so be it. It doesn't seem much of a friendship anyway.

-Hi X, I'm not going to ask you to pay back what you owe me, but I'm no longer going to give you any money for any reason. Please don't ask me again as moving forwards.-

Shelby2010 · 28/06/2023 15:31

Or actually she’s asking for money to buy beer & fags for the boyfriend.

Shoxfordian · 28/06/2023 15:33

Stop being such a mug

Landndialamrhf · 28/06/2023 15:37

I voted YABU because you’re focusing on entirely the wrong things

But what’s really annoyed me is that her bf sister is staying with them and this morning they were asking for food from the school for apparently her son. Not only do I feel
mugged off but there are also
other kids struggling and knowing there is Something amiss here with the money I’m frustrated she’s taking resources away from
others. To be honest I want to block her but feel uneasy due to the kids friendship group. I don’t know if it’s drugs or what but something is going on and feel she needs some home truths.
not one part of this is relevant. and you don’t need to do any home truths.
you need to stop giving her money.
just stop.
you don’t need to tell other people how to live their lives. You need to stop giving people money.
Especially when it leaves you short.

JulieHoney · 28/06/2023 15:37

“Telling home truths” won’t do a blind bit of good! She knows exactly what she is, and won’t change her behaviour just because you point it out to her.

Just back away, this is not a friendship, it’s being someone’s cash machine. You cannot fix things for the poor kid caught in the middle, unfortunately.

WhenIWasAFieldMyself · 28/06/2023 15:39

You've been scammed by a scammer.
Just tell her to fuck off and scam some other fucker next time she comes scrounging or you'll ring the police.

turnthetoiletpaperroundproperly · 28/06/2023 15:40

I am really sorry Op but you are a fool. She has seen you coming. I know you did what you did with the best intention of helping the child but it hasnt gone on the child its just an excuse. If you are worried about the child then approach the school. they have clear policies in place that can trigger all sorts of assistance.You cannot save everyone someone once told me.Concentrate on your own family and leave them to sort themselves. Step back or step away or if I were you I would be running for the hils, NO more help lovely lady do you hear me? !!! NO more enough is enough,They wouldnt give the time of day if you werent so generous you know this.

Devastateddaughter · 28/06/2023 15:42

She saw you coming. Just stop giving her money.

ZairWazAnOldLady · 28/06/2023 15:47

She’s stolen £500 from her child’s friends mother. She really doesn’t have any morals. Ask to see the safeguarding person at your child’s school. Tell them you want to tell them something because you are worried about a child but you don’t want to discuss it or hear what happens and you understand you have been foolish. Explain the child may be hungry and how much and when you have given money. Thank them and leave.
Dont give her any money again for anything.

YouCantTourniquetTheTaint · 28/06/2023 15:51

She's spotted you as an easy mark to get money from. She's using you for money.

You need to take a massive step back and say no to her. Don't let her guilt trip you or use emotionally manipulative language to get you to give her more money.

Send her a message along the lines of "as you know the cost of living has gone up and I am no longer in a position to help you. I don't expect the money I've lent you back, however if you are in a position to do so it would be greatly appreciated" then go no contact with her.

I'd also speak to the safeguarding lead at the school because she's borrowing at a high rate for "food" then asking for food from the school, so it's being spent on either fags, booze or drugs over food. None of which is good. I'm betting the kids homelife isn't great either.

Toooldtocareanymore · 28/06/2023 15:52

stop giving her money, stop all discussions that reference money, you cant give someone a home truths discussion when you have absolutely no idea what those truths are, you are not being told the truth here and probably never have, if you feel kid is going without food ask him to yours for a playdate as they are friends and feed him dinner.

OhComeOnFFS · 28/06/2023 15:55

I would block her and talk to the school about this - it's a safeguarding issue if she can't feed her children.

But that woman is a scammer - she saw you coming, saw you identify with her financial struggle and thought she'd milk you dry.

Thepeopleversuswork · 28/06/2023 15:57

Ultimately this is not your problem its hers. Whatever the cause is of her financial problems, it isn't something you will solve by giving her "home truths". It sounds like the boyfriend is a leech and she is very likely aware of this without you telling her.

I can understand wanting to help out once or twice but she now sees you as a cash cow and you need to stop bailing her out.

If, as I suspect, the cause of the problem is the boyfriend, it won't help her deal with it if she feels she can lean on other people to sort it out all the time.

ColdHandsHotHead · 28/06/2023 15:58

I wouldn't give her a penny more. I've been in a slightly similar situation where someone I didn't know that well was hinting at needing money for food, but I knew what this person was actually spending all her money on and why she was short of money for food, so I wasn't prepared to help out.

JenniferBarkley · 28/06/2023 16:00

I would just reply "Sorry Jane, I've already given you over £500, I can't afford any more. Best wishes." and take it from there. Don't give her another penny - either she's scamming you or she is in difficulty and it's still not helping.

Speak to the school in case of wider issues, and because she'll move on to the next mum now.

Dacadactyl · 28/06/2023 16:03

I would report this to school as a safeguarding concern. The money is going somewhere (drugs perhaps?) and even if its not drugs, there's nothing she should be prioritising above food for her kids.

I would distance myself from her and not give another penny.

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