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Should I speak some home truths?

111 replies

Clareanscombe1964 · 28/06/2023 13:51

Before I get into this story I should prefix that at different periods of time I’ve really struggled with bad relationships and money so what I’m about to say is not meant to seem judgemental at all.
There is a mum of a child in my dad class at school, the children are pretty good friends. We got chatting one time before Christmas and the topic of presents came up where became apparent quite quickly that she was struggling to get her child gifts and that by comparison we were in a fortunate position to be able to buy things for ours. The conversation honestly made me feel really bad and it was a prompt for me to reevaluate the meaning of gifts. Anyway it was after this that she asked me to go food shopping with her to keep her company. All the way round she was hinting that she couldn’t afford the shopping and she how she was so
worried she couldn’t cover it. I felt at the time trying to guilt me into paying for it. I was left a little annoyed.
regardless she asked me to lend her some
money to help with food, a few weeks later and as I could I did. But the messages
for money have increased and on more than one occasion have made less sense. In context I’ve given her probably 500
now. But I would send her 120 only to get a message two days later saying she had no
food again. I’ve had to stop as we are also feeling the squeeze and need to prioritise my kids. She promised a small
amount back, which is the only
part I’ve asked for due to
my phone bill, it didn’t come which left me
with late payments to manage. I feel pretty used and am
left thinking there’s more to this than simply money worries, to go through that much cash in a short period. She has a boyfriend living with her which without going into
detail, he’s contributing nothing, won’t look for work but is happy to eat all the food and take money from her account that was meant for bills. My previous caveat re relationships was important as I know how hard they can be but she’s openly said she’s not afraid to tell him to go. I said to her that he is happy to take take take so that her son basically goes hungry but she is also
guilty of allowing it to continue.
the last random request was that her sister was in trouble and she needed money for a taxi to go and help her. I said no.
But what’s really annoyed me is that her bf sister is staying with them and this morning they were asking for food from the school for apparently her son. Not only do I feel
mugged off but there are also
other kids struggling and knowing there is Something amiss here with the money I’m frustrated she’s taking resources away from
others. To be honest I want to block her but feel uneasy due to the kids friendship group. I don’t know if it’s drugs or what but something is going on and feel she needs some home truths. Am i being unreasonable?

OP posts:
Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/06/2023 16:06

I know there’s a little kid in the middle of it who if he gets something
from it, it might mean he doesn’t go hungry. I l know that’s not my problem ultimately

You're right it's not, though she'll certainly use the "poor kids" as a lever

As PPs have said, if you're really concerned a better approach would be to mention this to school, who have a pathway to get support in place

Mindymomo · 28/06/2023 16:06

I’d definitely speak to the School, there maybe other parents who she has approached for money.

Krickley · 28/06/2023 16:09

Could you share your concerns re child going hungry to school?

Clareanscombe1964 · 28/06/2023 16:12

@Krickley i think I should yes, social services are already involved but it needs to be raised then as I have been naive to try and help/bail her out regardless of whether there’s any deception or not

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Clareanscombe1964 · 28/06/2023 16:13

@Shoxfordian yeah you summed it up pretty well 🫠

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BobLemon · 28/06/2023 16:20

Shoxfordian · 28/06/2023 15:33

Stop being such a mug

This was the “home truth” you needed OP.

I voted YABU, but because I think YABU thinking speaking to her will do any good.

Clareanscombe1964 · 28/06/2023 16:22

@Shoxfordian yep was going to say the same thing! And you’re right, it won’t. Time to back off and focus on my own stuff

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veryfluffyfluff · 28/06/2023 16:23

She doesn't need home truths. You just need to learn to say no and mean it.

turnthetoiletpaperroundproperly · 28/06/2023 17:11

This will be really outing but I just wanted you to know you are not the only one who has fallen for such things. I met a woman who was a mum to one of my daughters friends at guides. She seemed ok but had just moved over and was a bit lonely. Our kids got on great and after a few weeks she started pushing for sleepovers at mine for her daughter etc and me having her daughter to play and have dinner with us.It started off with drips and then became more and more,I put up with it (more fool me) as I was glad my own daughter had a good friend.I took this kid with us and treated her as I would my daughter, I ignored the greed and the wants and demands and gave in as my daughter seemed happy.The mother then transfered her kid to my daughters school and my daughter was so excited to show her new friend around and help her settle in, Within 5 mins she had dropped my daughter and wouldnt speak to her as her new friends were more exciting,By this point I had run myself ragged all summer and spent a bloody fortune on entertaining them both, My child went to their house and was fed half a tin of spaghetti hoops as she had only made enough soup for her two kids,knowing my daughter was going,.Warning bells began to sound in my head. I gave them clothes etc bags and bags of clothes,took them out bowling ,swimming for meals etc. She came for coffee and was always hungry and began looking for food in my cupboards the mother omg it was bizaare and rude and grabby, The kids somehow got back to being friends at school and my daughter seemed much more settled and happier until after mum daughter and baby had been to our house had 12 crumpets and hot chocolate and then after 3 hrs (thought they would never go!) they said to me "you promised us chocolate cake and cream and we havent had it yet" I mean omg rude beyond words" we will go when we have had that" I very nearly threw the cake at the mother by this point. When they had eaten again and gone home I found my daughter in tears in the bedroom, She was so upset as the friend had said and bear in mind these were 10 yr old kids here, she had told my daughter "I only play with you cos mum says I have to cos your mum will give us nice things.So dont talk to me inside school but I will play with you outside school" Now I must live on a totally different planet than this family because in my world this just doesnt happen. The mother then rang later that day to ask me if I had stuff for a party like glass jugs serving platters etc she could have for her kids birthday party the next few days,Yes I had I said and then wickedly I said I would drop them off before the party when I dropped my kid off to enjoy the party, She then had to admit my daughter wasnt invited and wasnt going as she wasnt a friend. OMG the cheek of them. Needless to say we live and learn, The moral of my epic tale is there are lots of takers and chancers out there who can spot good people a mile off, You have come across one and it wont be the last I promise you!! My life is better now they dont feature in it. She told me when I confronted her that I was rich and could afford it, How she made that out I have no clue but she did and we suited her so much she even trained her kids to be part of it, Greedy.grabby BASTARDS the whole sorry unfortunate lot of them.

Ladyoftheknight · 28/06/2023 17:16

If you can't afford your phone bill why give a strange money?

Clareanscombe1964 · 28/06/2023 17:39

@turnthetoiletpaperroundproperly thank you for sharing, I need to wise up!!!

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Clareanscombe1964 · 28/06/2023 17:41

@Ladyoftheknight oh well
normally not a proclivity but had to cover two emergency expenses
hence why I was sensitive about having this amount back

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crazycadetmum · 28/06/2023 17:48

One of my friends had another friend who would ask for money for food or medicines.. she eventually got annoyed and refused cash by saying..I'm.short myself but if you come to shops with me I can put it on my credit card..friend declined to go to shops..guessing she didn't actually want food or medicine. But my friend was made to feel bad initially cause the money was said to be to feed the child but of course I'm guessing it went on other things .

littleripper · 28/06/2023 17:51

These grifters are not poor, they are not hungry. They are grifters who exploit their children for gain. Shut your purse! If you want to support hungry children donate to a food bank and school meal schemes. These cunts will wring you dry then say you were rich and can afford it. Grifters gonna grift

GoldDuster · 28/06/2023 17:55

She sounded you out and identified you as a soft target, unfortunately these b+stards are out there and while you were trying to do the right thing you've realised that she's had you right over.

I would keep my distance going forward from her, be polite and keep her at arms length. Home truths aren't going to get anyone anywhere, she's a devious fecker, and not a word of what you say will hit home. Save your energy, contact the Safeguarding Lead at school in writing and tell them that she's extracted £500 that you can't afford out of you since x date under the premise that her children are going hungry.

Lesson learned.

CheeseBandit · 28/06/2023 18:06

She’s entitled. DD had a friend at primary and her mum was a little like this. She didn’t work, and saw me and DH working and having money for cars and holidays and obviously thought it wasn’t fair.
She was always dropping hints about money etc. DH at one point thought we should take her DD on holiday with us, until, we went out for the day and the child basically kept telling DH to give her cash and never said thank you.
There were 2 occasions where she tried to trick me out of money, luckily she saw me coming.

Of course she wasn’t really skint. She once bought her daughter an iPad, an iPhone and a laptop for Christmas (then pleaded poverty again). Various family members were giving her money as well as her parents. I think she had plenty, but wanted more. She was complaining she couldn’t afford to take her DD to disneyworld with a sad face at me, no way was I taking her.

MORRISSEY1959 · 15/08/2023 05:29

I'm going threw the same with my niece.taking advantage saying no food for kids or her rent is short.she lies all the time.ive lent her 100s of pounds which she did pay bk but there's £150 owing and she's dragging her heels saying universal credit sanctioned her.saying stopped her rent etc but I google it and it says the rent won't stop and the money for the kids won't stop either but she said it has.i haven't pulled her up on her lies.from now on I'm not lending her nothing.she can pull at my heart strings as much as she wants I need to be strong and say No.when or if I ever get my money bk I'm going to distance myself from her.

Fishhhh · 15/08/2023 05:38

dont bother with home truths, just stop being a mug. If she asks for cash tell her ‘sorry, I’m really struggling for cash’ and repeat repeat repeat.

MORRISSEY1959 · 15/08/2023 05:42

I know I am going too.ive took her bank details out of my on line banking and edited her name in my phone to SAY NO TO MONEY lol before she puts me on the spot haaa

Poppyblush · 15/08/2023 06:11

Stop being a mug. Try and get done back, say you’ve had a huge bill or boiler broke. And don’t lend when you can’t afford it,

FedUpMumof10YO · 15/08/2023 06:20

No is a complete sentence. You don't owe anyone false reasons or explanations. You can just say no.

MariaVT65 · 15/08/2023 06:30

I’d speak to the school out of concerns for the child, and would also consider speaking to the other parents in case they are also being taken for a ride.

MariaVT65 · 15/08/2023 06:34

Also, do you have any text messages or evidence that you asked the woman to pay money back? If so, and things get bad, you could always mention the possibility of small claims court. You likely won’t go down that route, but have the mention of it up your sleeve in case she doesn’t back off.

LylaLee · 15/08/2023 06:43

I've unfortunately been in a place where I was struggling.

I bought a big thing of rice for like £5. Dried & canned beans for another £5. Bread, milk, peanut butter, oats porridge, the 50p type. Another £5. I would make that last a week.

£500 is people buying takeaway. You're subsidizing someone's KFC habit.

MrsDBaddiel · 15/08/2023 06:50

Had a colleague like this, she was targeting the soft touches at work, we discovered she’d managed to get a few hundred quid out of about 5 different people (I wasn’t one of them thankfully). Everyone had got a different story for why she needed the money.

These people are parasites, block her out of your life, she’ll bleed you dry otherwise.

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