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Take your rubbish home

157 replies

Globules · 26/06/2023 09:52

I live by the sea. My morning walk along the beach today consisted of overflowing bins, tied up carrier bags and tied up black sacks next to bins. I counted 5 disposable BBQs.

I also saw rubbish strewn everywhere, as the seagulls and foxes had an overnight party opening up bags and feasting on the remains.

I love the visitors. I love what they bring to the town. I enjoy seeing the camper vans parked overnight along the seafront. I don't love the vast swathes of rubbish they leave.

If visiting a beautiful tourist place, put your rubbish in your vehicle and take your mess home with you. Particularly if there's no room in the bin. A black sack next to the bin is completely unacceptable when it can easily go home with you.

My council tax is paying to clear up your daily mess.

YABU - there's a reason there's bins.
YANBU - you should leave places as you find them

OP posts:
WonderfulUsername · 26/06/2023 15:06

TaxDirector · 26/06/2023 14:01

Of course you douse them, which then means you have a filthy tray of black wet gunge.

What do you really think people should do on holiday?

Stop trying to take the fun out of everything by banning it and instead look for positive solutions. Our economy needs more tourism, not less, look for good solutions that work instead of unworkable, one sided whinges.

  • encourage refillable bottles by providing clean water fountains
  • require cafes to provide bins for their outdoor seating & empty these regularly
  • require cafes to reduce the use of disposable plates/cutlery etc.
  • provide barbecue facilities
  • provide enough public bins and empty them regularly.

The biggest issue is food waste as its grim carrying it home & most of us don't have single use plastic bags any more (good) and it's a grim job cleaning the mess off anything else.

I haven't suggested anything be banned.

I'm suggesting you and people like you should clean your own shit up and take it with you if the bins are full.

If you think you might not be able to find a suitably empty bin for your BBQ and taking it home is a problem, don't bother having one.

Even if the bins were emptied 3 times a day they might still be full when it comes to disposing of your BBQ so why take the risk?

FortunaMajor · 26/06/2023 15:09

I have just spent a few days in a campervan along various beaches.

At beach number one, it was the local woman shrieking about effing tourists who left her picnic litter on a bench with no attempt to take it away. There were no bins at that place, but there were some that you passed a few minutes walk away that you had to pass to get back to the town.

At beach number two it was the group of 20+ local teens having a party who left 2 large sacks of litter next to the bin and left their disposable BBQs on the beach. They were all collected in very nice large cars, so could have taken it home.

I created very little litter as I ate at local cafes/restaurants/pubs/concessions. I spent a fair amount of money at local businesses and on extortionate parking charges.

It wasn't the tourists I saw creating the mess or disrespecting the area. Overall I was impressed at how clean the beaches were.

While I don't doubt you get idiot tourists, you can't assume the locals are perfectly innocent.

Daftasabroom · 26/06/2023 15:09

DustyLee123 · 26/06/2023 10:49

The bins need to be emptied more, particularly weekends and school holidays.
Ive seen seagulls actually taking rubbish out of bins, so it’s not always the human’s fault.

Who by? Are you going to volunteer? Do you work weekends and holidays? Are you prepared to pay more council tax because people are lazy?

MissTwinklePaws · 26/06/2023 15:11

No one thinks its ok to litter. People also do not want to transport filthy food waste in their back pack and thats ok.

Oh they definitely do think it's ok, people throw stuff on the ground all the time! People litter all the time. It doesn't matter if there's a bin around, some people are just trash themselves and don't care.

People who do care about the environment that they live in choose not to litter, even if there's no bin nearby. Find another one or take it home.

People manage to not throw a giant cumbersome picnic blanket away (with deck chairs in tow) but carrying a pack of crisps and a coke can a short walk is too much to ask.

MissTwinklePaws · 26/06/2023 15:13

Also 'I don't want a crisp packet in my bag so I'll just throw it in this park/AONB'. The selfishness is off the charts.

It's not "ok" to do that. If everyone had that mindset, we'd have another plague.

Daftasabroom · 26/06/2023 15:14

Fightyouforthatpie · 26/06/2023 12:03

YANBU there is no excuse for dumping litter - I never do it and "not enough bins" or "the bins are too full" is such a shit excuse. People who dump stuff are filthy scum.

Particularly when followed by "the council made me do it".

Daftasabroom · 26/06/2023 15:19

kirbykirby · 26/06/2023 11:32

How often do the council empty the bins? There is only so much people can do if the bins are overflowing with rubbish and there is nowhere to put waste because the council only collects once every few weeks as is the case in many parts of the country, even though council tax is through the roof. Where is all the money going?

Try reading your councils annual report and accounts, you might find out.

Meeting · 26/06/2023 15:19

The bins clearly need to be emptied more frequently.

I am completely against littering but I see no problem with properly bagging your rubbish and leaving it next to the bin if the bin is too full.

Maddy70 · 26/06/2023 15:22

TBF if the bins are overflowing people are making the effort to be clean. The council's should place bigger bins or empty them more frequently

anythinginapinch · 26/06/2023 15:23

kirbykirby · 26/06/2023 11:32

How often do the council empty the bins? There is only so much people can do if the bins are overflowing with rubbish and there is nowhere to put waste because the council only collects once every few weeks as is the case in many parts of the country, even though council tax is through the roof. Where is all the money going?

Don't you realise the central government sets of he amount of money each council has, and that amount has gone down as councils obligation have risen? And that councils are making appallingly difficult decisions about what to spend their (insufficient) money on?
They are responsible for roads, lights, social care, education, housing in your area, as well as bins.

Daftasabroom · 26/06/2023 15:25

BodegaSushi · 26/06/2023 11:55

Clearly it's not enough then.

Just as there are more temp jobs available in post/delivery during the Christmas season to cope with demand, there should be similar for the summer months.

If councils want to keep attracting more people to bring in revenue, they need to invest in the space.

I really don't get why people think councils significantly benefit from tourist spending. They don't. People really need to understand the way local and district councils are funded.

OneTwoThreeShake · 26/06/2023 15:28

There's a beautiful beach where I'm from. It's fairly remote but gets very busy with a mix of tourists and locals. There are next to no facilities at the beach, so anybody piling rubbish next to the bin (or leaving it in the sand) has almost certainly brought it from home. Its absolutely disgusting.

I can't understand the mentality. If I go to put something in the bin and it's full I just keep hold of it.

And of course its a person thing. We all choose how we behave and how we react to things. If there was a public bin next to your house that wasn't emptied frequently enough so people dropped their litter in your garden, I'm pretty sure you'd be blaming the individuals for being scruffy.

OneTwoThreeShake · 26/06/2023 15:29

Also, why is the food waste more filthy than the food when you were bringing it?

CalistoNoSolo · 26/06/2023 15:33

TaxDirector · 26/06/2023 13:27

*TaxDirector · Today 13:17
Also things like a hot disposable barbecue aren't easy transportable as they can stay hot for quite a while.

Then don't use them.

Then provide facilities people can use. Lots of places do.

Engage with tourists. Work with them to enable people to enjoy themselves without damaging the environment.

Some people are joyless fuckers, you basically just don't want to share your beautiful space with anyone else and think if you make it miserable by banning nice activities you will reduce tourist numbers.

Single use bbq's are a travesty, appalling on so many levels. I do agree that provision should be made, but calling someone joyless because they don't like littering fuckers who are happy to start a wildfire just so they can cook a sausage just shows where you stand on this.

Daftasabroom · 26/06/2023 15:37

TaxDirector · 26/06/2023 13:17

Also things like a hot disposable barbecue aren't easy transportable as they can stay hot for quite a while.

So don't effing use one, it's really really not hard

BunnyBettChetwynnd · 26/06/2023 15:46

Some people are joyless fuckers, you basically just don't want to share your beautiful space with anyone else and think if you make it miserable by banning nice activities you will reduce tourist numbers.

I live near a beautiful open space in the centre of Bristol. This morning it is strewn with disposable BBQs, takeaway waste, clothing (?), food waste, plastic bottles and other crap. There are bins. Everywhere.

You are right, I don't want to share my beautiful space with people who come to somewhere glorious to enjoy it and then leave it in a worse state for everyone else. I don't care if they're local or visitors stay away if you can't leave the place as you found it for the sake of everyone else and the wildlife.

This doesn't happen in winter. There must be a kind of person who sees the outdoors as a toilet to shit in when the sun shines.

BunnyBettChetwynnd · 26/06/2023 15:48

And also. The reason councils don't have people constantly going around behind litter-droppers with a dustpan and brush is because their budgets have been cut to the bone by 13 years of Tory mismanagement.

Daftasabroom · 26/06/2023 15:51

Meeting · 26/06/2023 15:19

The bins clearly need to be emptied more frequently.

I am completely against littering but I see no problem with properly bagging your rubbish and leaving it next to the bin if the bin is too full.

The problem is that seagulls, foxes, cats and rats will get into it.

ValerieGoldberg · 26/06/2023 16:43

It’s really annoying. I was at the local park the other day and there are 2 bins inside and 2 just outside the park that were mostly empty yet there was rubbish left all over the grass and in the sandpit from the day before. A lot of it is definitely people with terrible attitudes. I despair sometimes!

FOJN · 26/06/2023 16:44

Some people are joyless fuckers, you basically just don't want to share your beautiful space with anyone else and think if you make it miserable by banning nice activities you will reduce tourist numbers.

Grow up. Disposable barbecues are a fire hazard. We rarely make rules to cover the behaviour of the most responsible people in society and some people just aren't responsible. We have had bins literally burnt to ashes and a beach shelter damaged because some fuck wit thought it was OK to put a hot barbecue in a plastic bin. It's irresponsible arseholes who spoil it for everyone else not those of us who would rather not see fires on the seafront.

CheeseTouch · 26/06/2023 16:57

Take a bunch of Tupperware boxes with your food in, bring the empty ones home again. Done. Why should the rest of us pay to have single use plastic that you bought your food in removed from local beauty spots? Entitled wankers.

Quveas · 26/06/2023 16:57

ValerieGoldberg · 26/06/2023 16:43

It’s really annoying. I was at the local park the other day and there are 2 bins inside and 2 just outside the park that were mostly empty yet there was rubbish left all over the grass and in the sandpit from the day before. A lot of it is definitely people with terrible attitudes. I despair sometimes!

Our local park has dozens of bins. Seriously, dozens! And people still throw their shit around the ground and leave the bins empty. One of the playgrounds (it's a big park) has five benches and 8 picnic tables around it. Within reach of those are 4 huge bins - the furthest you would ahve to walk to any of them is 20 feet. On Monday morning the ground and the play area around the benches and tables was strewn with litter despite the fact it was immaculately cleaned that morning by local volunteers. There was literally no rubbish in sight in any of the bins. I know because I picked up my dogs waste and put it in a bin. I bet the same people who think it's disgusting to take their leftover food and baby nappies home are the same ones who berate dog owners for not picking up....

ValerieGoldberg · 26/06/2023 17:02

Yep, same situation here, the bins were feet away from the rubbish. The only reason I know the bins had room is because I ended up picking it all up and putting it in the bins. Can you imagine the state of the place if people didn’t volunteer and do litter picks. Someone even left their brand new designer top behind, I could tell it was new as the plastic loop was still attached to the label, they had just pulled the cardboard tag off it. Some people just don’t care. I know it isn’t the majority but it has such an impact.

phoenixrosehere · 26/06/2023 17:03

People also do not want to transport filthy food waste in their back pack and thats ok.

No, it’s not. If you don’t want to transport it then don’t buy it.

If I see there’s a full bin, I hold onto it until I get home or I come across a bin that is not overfilled. It is not difficult!

sparklefresh · 26/06/2023 17:08

CalistoNoSolo · 26/06/2023 12:03

Some of the responses on this thread really sum up the entitled couldn't give a fuck attitude of so many in the UK these days. I'm currently in a park in a northern European capital city. Its pristine@, the streets don't have rubbish blowing everywhere and there aren't piles of vomit or dog shit to negotiate. It's the same at all of the other major European and Canadian cities I've been to in the last couple of years. Brits are fucking mingers when it comes to the environment they live in. Irresponsible, whining, always someone else's fault and never their own.

Totally! People are fucking disgusting. There is never, ever an excuse for leaving rubbish. If there aren't any bins or the bins are full, you take it with you.