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Take your rubbish home

157 replies

Globules · 26/06/2023 09:52

I live by the sea. My morning walk along the beach today consisted of overflowing bins, tied up carrier bags and tied up black sacks next to bins. I counted 5 disposable BBQs.

I also saw rubbish strewn everywhere, as the seagulls and foxes had an overnight party opening up bags and feasting on the remains.

I love the visitors. I love what they bring to the town. I enjoy seeing the camper vans parked overnight along the seafront. I don't love the vast swathes of rubbish they leave.

If visiting a beautiful tourist place, put your rubbish in your vehicle and take your mess home with you. Particularly if there's no room in the bin. A black sack next to the bin is completely unacceptable when it can easily go home with you.

My council tax is paying to clear up your daily mess.

YABU - there's a reason there's bins.
YANBU - you should leave places as you find them

OP posts:
WakeMeUpWhenGoodOmensIsBack · 26/06/2023 11:16

WonderfulUsername · 26/06/2023 10:09

Why is it not realistic?

They managed to get there with the uneaten food and bbq in the first place??

Not everyone brings food with them. I live near a park and the chilled food aisle of the supermarket by the front gate is absolutely stripped bare on sunny days, ditto the chilled drinks and the disposable BBQs.

The rubbish provided from fish and chips and drinks for a family of four is quite significant if the chippy uses those polystyrene trays - again that won't be something you brought with you.

CheeseTouch · 26/06/2023 11:17

Weal · 26/06/2023 10:03

I’d say the council should be emptying the bins more frequently than they do and putting more bins in. There seems to be a big variance in the quality of bins/recycling in different local authorities. Some have lots of bins, regular street cleaning and recycling bins. I would have thought somewhere that attracts a lot of visitors would have used some of the money gained through that to maintain the street cleanliness.

I agree people should put rubbish in bins and take home if possible to recycle. It’s not realistic though that people will drive houses with food waste (things like left overs from BBQs) in their car.

All waste including food should be taken home. It’s not complicated. Use the containers you brought it in! Or don’t bring a picnic or BBQ if you’re too lazy to clean up afterwards.

loislovesstewie · 26/06/2023 11:21

And a special thanks to the people who leave used babies nappies on the beach where I live. So delightful!

Justasking22 · 26/06/2023 11:26

WonderfulUsername · 26/06/2023 11:11

No you haven't explained why?

Why don't you pop your litter into your bags between all of you?

I have explained. That I have children with special needs/disabilities. And the struggle I don't need to explain all the sensitive and personal difficulties to you.

WonderfulUsername · 26/06/2023 11:29

WakeMeUpWhenGoodOmensIsBack · 26/06/2023 11:16

Not everyone brings food with them. I live near a park and the chilled food aisle of the supermarket by the front gate is absolutely stripped bare on sunny days, ditto the chilled drinks and the disposable BBQs.

The rubbish provided from fish and chips and drinks for a family of four is quite significant if the chippy uses those polystyrene trays - again that won't be something you brought with you.

But you brought it from the shop to the park gates, so you can bring it home or find a different bin on the way home.

Wednesdaysotherchild · 26/06/2023 11:30

Not only do I take our rubbish home, I usually pick up other people’s too. Every time I pick up my dog’s poo, I pick up 3 bits of plastic and pop it in the poo bag. Unlike many (most?) people, I like to leave places nicer than when I arrived. It’s a thing I do.

NB: I use biodegradeable poo bags but assume the contents of poo bins are going to landfill for hygiene reasons.

Wednesdaysotherchild · 26/06/2023 11:31

I also always leave a beach with pockets full of sea plastic that get popped in the bin later too.

WonderfulUsername · 26/06/2023 11:32

Justasking22 · 26/06/2023 11:26

I have explained. That I have children with special needs/disabilities. And the struggle I don't need to explain all the sensitive and personal difficulties to you.

No you don't need to explain any sensitive or personal difficulties.

I don't image they'd make me understand why you can't pop a small bit of rubbish in a carrier/rucksack anyway.

kirbykirby · 26/06/2023 11:32

How often do the council empty the bins? There is only so much people can do if the bins are overflowing with rubbish and there is nowhere to put waste because the council only collects once every few weeks as is the case in many parts of the country, even though council tax is through the roof. Where is all the money going?

cinnamonfrenchtoast · 26/06/2023 11:34

Our local beach has two bins emptied twice a week - then the council complain that they're always full 🙄

TheUsualChaos · 26/06/2023 11:35

Totally agree OP, the bins are for people to use for small amounts of litter not shoving a huge carrier bags full of the left overs of their BBQ get togethers. We've seen parties of multiple families bring bags and bags full of food and drink and then leave the bags all around the already full bin to get torn apart by wildlife and blow around everywhere. They brought it all there, why not take it back again?

IBetGordonRamsayDoesntHaveTheseProblems · 26/06/2023 11:38

The problem in my local area is that the parks don't have enough/big enough bins. People bag up their rubbish and leave it next to the bins - I don't mind that, they've made an effort.

Lots of young people around here who will have a picnic and then go to the pub afterwards. You can't very well go to the pub with a black bin bag in tow.

FuppingEll · 26/06/2023 11:41

I think that packaging n general needs to be cut back on. I can't see why people on a day ou should be producing bags full of rubbish. That is ridiculous. I'm not in the UK but locally all of our bins are smart bins, they have solar powered compressors and sensors that tell the council how full the bin is so they know when it needs to be collected. So really a multi-pronged approach is needed, if people are needing to dump a bag full of rubbish after a day at the beach they should be asking themselves wtf they are doing and the council needs a smarter way to keep track of rubbish and the staff to handle that.

WakeMeUpWhenGoodOmensIsBack · 26/06/2023 11:44

WonderfulUsername · 26/06/2023 11:29

But you brought it from the shop to the park gates, so you can bring it home or find a different bin on the way home.

I agree that there's normally a way to manage getting things back to a bin if you're prepared to put the effort in.

But it annoys me that people on these threads always trot out "you brought all these containers here from home, so surely you can take them back" like it's a gotcha when very often it's not the case - the packaging comes from local businesses and not from people's home many miles away.

WonderfulUsername · 26/06/2023 11:48

WakeMeUpWhenGoodOmensIsBack · 26/06/2023 11:44

I agree that there's normally a way to manage getting things back to a bin if you're prepared to put the effort in.

But it annoys me that people on these threads always trot out "you brought all these containers here from home, so surely you can take them back" like it's a gotcha when very often it's not the case - the packaging comes from local businesses and not from people's home many miles away.

But it's exactly the same thing.

They brought it from the local business to the park/beach.

It's not going to kill them to hang onto it a while longer until they find an empty bin, or go home.

Mademetoxic · 26/06/2023 11:52

WakeMeUpWhenGoodOmensIsBack · 26/06/2023 11:44

I agree that there's normally a way to manage getting things back to a bin if you're prepared to put the effort in.

But it annoys me that people on these threads always trot out "you brought all these containers here from home, so surely you can take them back" like it's a gotcha when very often it's not the case - the packaging comes from local businesses and not from people's home many miles away.

Why should people just dump it next to the bin, if it is full?
This contributes to littering, and can harm wildlife. Also makes the place look scruffy.

It's common sense surely. If the bin is full find another bin which isn't. Or take it home with you.

BamBamBambi · 26/06/2023 11:53

The council should be emptying the bins more often.

If the know the bins will be over flowing and stacked by the end of the day then they should be arranging a mid day collection.

CaptainMyCaptain · 26/06/2023 11:53

WhiteFire · 26/06/2023 09:56

The councils need to empty the bins more regularly then they do.

Or people could take more responsibility for their own rubbish. They've carried the drinks can or sandwich wrapper to the beach/Park they can carry it home.

BodegaSushi · 26/06/2023 11:55

Globules · 26/06/2023 11:00

The bins are emptied at least once a day. Council litter pickers too.

There's an abundance of bins, including extra large wheelie bins during the summer.

And still there's a mess every morning.

Clearly it's not enough then.

Just as there are more temp jobs available in post/delivery during the Christmas season to cope with demand, there should be similar for the summer months.

If councils want to keep attracting more people to bring in revenue, they need to invest in the space.

BobbinThreadbare123 · 26/06/2023 11:56

This is a people issue, not a council emptying bin issue. I live in the Lakes; I do not expect the council to provide a bin up Helvellyn, let alone empty it. Yet I still see litter dotted about. It is pure laziness on the part of visitors.

BamBamBambi · 26/06/2023 11:56

CaptainMyCaptain · 26/06/2023 11:53

Or people could take more responsibility for their own rubbish. They've carried the drinks can or sandwich wrapper to the beach/Park they can carry it home.

Or the council can pull its finger out and empty the bin so they can be used as they should.

littleripper · 26/06/2023 11:56

The council should provide adequate bins and empty them. It is absurd to suggest families should take fish and chip wrappers, ice cream wrappers etc home from a day out.

BodegaSushi · 26/06/2023 11:56

Wednesdaysotherchild · 26/06/2023 11:30

Not only do I take our rubbish home, I usually pick up other people’s too. Every time I pick up my dog’s poo, I pick up 3 bits of plastic and pop it in the poo bag. Unlike many (most?) people, I like to leave places nicer than when I arrived. It’s a thing I do.

NB: I use biodegradeable poo bags but assume the contents of poo bins are going to landfill for hygiene reasons.

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DiddyHeck · 26/06/2023 11:57

Councils certainly need to empty bins more often but as a PP said, they can fill up again really quickly especially with picnics/bbqs etc.

Anyone caught dumping rubbish next to a full up bin should be fined, as they are literally fly-tipping.

ReachForTheMars · 26/06/2023 12:00

Elieza · 26/06/2023 09:59

Yes people should totally take their crap home or bin it. 200%!!

However, there are not enough dustbins all around my local area. Hence binbags get left beside them and the wildlife shred them so all the rubbish is everywhere. Im presuming your area is the same.

So it’s really the council that need to pay for more bins (£500 each apparently for a single wheelie bin encasement type unit, ridiculous sum when a local jail could easily have inmates make them cheaply) so people can put rubbish in them and then the wildlife wouldn’t wreck the good work some have done in cleaning up.

Could they though?

How much resource and equipment do you think would be needed for inmates to do that work safely?

I agree OP, it's all very well saying councils need to put more bins in but with what money? Camper vans parked on the seaside arent bringing in much revenue and of I was a local resident in those areas, I'd rather the money go on schools.

An enormous amount of seaside towns have low wages and a lot of elderly care home residents so a lot of funding is spent there before even thinking about funding extra bins. Which, as you say, wouldn't be needed if people took it home with them.

And a lot of people say they are animal lovers but daily to realise that one of the cheapest ways for coucils to control pests is culling them rather than adding costsnloje additional waste removal services.

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