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AIBU?

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AIBU or have I found a CF?

88 replies

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 16:47

This has been bothering me for a few weeks. Apologies – it’s a long one.

Long back story – I will try to summarize. DH has a DS from previous marriage. Ex (DS’s mother) ran off with another man years ago when DS was 9 years old, the marriage fell apart and the new relationship also fell apart after a few weeks. Ex stopped DH from having any contact with DS, despite having every court order against her. Judge even threatened to jail her but never followed through, so she just defied every court order. When DS got older (in his 20s) he made contact with DH and they established a relationship. By this time DH and I were married and had children of our own. We bought DS a car, found him a job with a friend of ours, paid for accommodation for him and helped him as much as we could. Unfortunately we discovered he was mentally unstable, he left his job (just didn’t turn up one day), accused the people he was house sharing with of raping him, dumped the car in a station car park, threw away the keys, didn’t tell anyone and disappeared to Ireland! There are more stories like this, including a spell in prison for armed robbery, but I’m trying to keep this short!

Fast forward a few more years. DS got married and had a DS of his own. He made contact again and said he was a reformed character. We formed a relationship with all three of them. We helped them when they moved house by paying the deposit and first month’s rent, bought a washing machine, bought clothes for the baby – stuff like that. DS then vanished again leaving his DW and his DS on their own. No one knows where he went. We picked up the pieces, helped abandoned DW out financially and generally gave support. DS never came back or had any more contact with his DS or DW or gave them any money, so all very sad (although DW did receive a letter from a solicitor a few years later asking for a clean break settlement). Being perfectly honest, DW isn’t my cup of tea. I feel she uses us for money. She’s borrowed from us in the past which she’s said she will repay but never has (I know she struggles and we’ve often just given her money, which we’ve said we don’t need back, but sometimes we’ve said it’s a loan and still we don’t get any repayment. When we ask she just says she has no money). I have nothing in common with her; I feel no relationship to her or her son. My DH feels the same – it’s just a quirk of fate that’s brought us together. However, we feel a duty towards the boy so have taken them both on days out, given lots of help, given advice where it’s been asked for (she’s not from the UK originally so doesn’t always know the system). I do feel it’s all a bit one sided though. They moved house recently and she didn’t seem to want to give us their new address (we were told the area they had moved to but nothing else). I felt a sense of relief tbh.

Anyway, now to come onto my AIBU. It was the boy’s birthday recently. He was 12. I asked him what he would like for his birthday and he sent me a photo of a light sabre – no link, no price. I asked for a link so I could see where to buy it and he sent a link to something that was £158!! He was very insistent that was all he wanted and there was nothing else. Now, I don’t spend £158 on my own children for their birthdays. I was actually quite gob smacked and felt very hurt as I felt used. If he’d said he would like some money towards a light sabre and sent me the link then I might have bought it, but to just expect it really upset me for some reason. I am not sure why I felt like this as he’s asked for iphones and ipads in the past, but somehow I’ve always just laughed those suggestions off. Given his mum struggles for money AIBU to not buy the light sabre? I can afford it but I just feel like a cash cow. Am I mean? He has another Granddad and Grandma (who aren’t actually a real Granddad and Grandma, just a couple they have befriended). I asked if he’d asked them for the light sabre and he said he hadn’t. Please tell me AIBU or have I found a CF?

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TestingTestingWonTooFree · 25/06/2023 16:50

He’s an 11 year old boy. I don’t think it’s fair to call him a CF. Many children who don’t understand the value of money will make ambitious requests. I agree YANBU to shell out over £150 on a birthday gift for him.

Darknightsahead · 25/06/2023 16:51

You are having the piss taken out of you.

Cut all contact now, you owe them nothing.

Soubriquet · 25/06/2023 16:52

At 11 he’s not being cheeky he’s just being a kid.

It would be different if the mother was the one sending you links

BlueLiquid · 25/06/2023 16:53

None of the backstory has any significance here.

You asked an 11 year old child what he’d like for his birthday, and he told you.

PushmePull · 25/06/2023 16:53

He's 12, he's just trying his luck. Don't hold it against him, but I think it's actually quite important that you say "no".

nevynevster · 25/06/2023 16:54

Just get back to him and say that's more than you can afford so you can buy him a cheaper one or you can give him £30 towards it. Up to him. I wouldn't spend £150 on my own kid's present either !

Kids absolutely understand that different people spend different amounts and it's not a problem. My mum usually gives my kids £20 or 30 and they're always grateful. I have a friend ( their ex nanny) who gives them far more or a more valuable present. They don't complain about my mum's present or say anything and are always grateful. Just give/buy him a reasonable amount and that's that. Nothing further to say.

thecatsthecats · 25/06/2023 16:54

Long story short, your husband's 11yo grandson asked for an expensive birthday present. It's not unaffordable, you just don't like that he asked?

Poor kid, being labelled a CF when he's just answered a question.

TheSnowyOwl · 25/06/2023 16:55

He’s being an 11 year old with an upcoming birthday rather than an actual CF.

I’d send him a card with £20 towards the light sabre and leave it at that.

Lacucuracha · 25/06/2023 16:59

I wouldn’t buy the lightsabre but I’d give him a gift voucher or cash for an amount you are happy with, with some chocolates.

Why doesn’t DH feel a connection with his grandson?

RhiWrites · 25/06/2023 17:00

You’ve known this kid since babyhood and you have no real relationship with him despite frequent days out? I don’t get it.

if you want permission to distance yourself, go ahead. But I’d say more because you don’t actually want to be in this family’s life than because the kid is greedy over the possibility of a pricey present.

FloofCloud · 25/06/2023 17:02

You need to set financial boundaries. Also it's your DH's grandchild, his dad has failed him, your DH should try to support him emotionally

Lacucuracha · 25/06/2023 17:05

I love my nieces to bits, they sometimes have little concept of money and ask for expensive days out/meals.

I just laugh it off and explain things are really expensive at the moment and suggest something fun but cheap.

They totally understand and we still have a great time.

Their brains are not yet mature, this is the time to teach them with love, not make them feel bad by asking if they’ve asked other grandparents for the present.

jeaux90 · 25/06/2023 17:10

He's a kid. JFC.

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:11

Thank you for your replies. That has helped. You're right, he probably didn't realise it was more than we would spend as no concept of money at that age. I do wonder if it's his mum sending the messages as my message went undelivered for days (as previous messages have done), so I wonder if it's not really his phone but a spare one. I suppose I'm just feeling a bit sensitive about it all. You've helped me see it from a different perspective.

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continentallentil · 25/06/2023 17:12

Gosh he’s 11.

He doesn’t have a great role model with his mum.

Give him some money towards it if you don’t want to pay for the whole thing. Personally i would ring up the other couple who have a grandparenty role and see if they’ll put in for it.

OR get him something else.

He is not a CF he is a kid. He’s had a hopeless start in life. Whether your husband feels a ‘connection’ to him or not, he is his grandson. Please focus on that not whether his mother is ‘your cup of tea’ or not. The pair of you have an obligation to him.

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:16

I know he's not had the happiest of childhoods and we have tried to make up for that. Just feeling used by his mum now though, which I know is not his fault.

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Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:19

I asked if he'd asked his other Granddad and Grandma as I thought maybe we could all put some money towards it. We sent him money in the end and said we hoped he could save up for what he wanted.

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StaunchMomma · 25/06/2023 17:25

Please don't refer to your DH's grandchild as 'the boy'.

Also, he's 11! 11 year old's are not CFs, they are simply children!

You've given lots of money to his Mum in the past but you seem to extend your frustration about this to him and that is just not fair.

StaunchMomma · 25/06/2023 17:26

Oh, and don't buy him the lightsaber! Obviously!

PorpoiseWithPurpose · 25/06/2023 17:27

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:16

I know he's not had the happiest of childhoods and we have tried to make up for that. Just feeling used by his mum now though, which I know is not his fault.

If you should feel used by anyone, it’s your husband’s waste of space son who abandoned his wife and child.

He’s the reason everyone is in this situation.

crazeekat · 25/06/2023 17:41

i think uve found a cf in the mother and father

gazpachosoupday · 25/06/2023 17:42

I am another one who thinks you are being very harsh on your step grandson.

DS every year for the last four has put on every birthday and Christmas list the lego Death Star (around £500) every year he gets told not a chance, he just doesnt quite get the concept of how much money it actually is, DS is only slightly younger than your SGS

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:43

I know he’s a complete waste of space and the child psychiatrist predicted he’d be emotionally harmed if he wasn’t allowed to see his dad while growing up. So while he is to blame, his mum is more to blame I think.

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aloris · 25/06/2023 17:43

I think I know that light sabre and I can tell you from experience that it will sit on a shelf gathering dust for at least 5 years.

Luxell934 · 25/06/2023 17:47

I was with you till the end when you said you are not his "real" grandma and grandpa. You might not be blood related to the child, your DH is his "real" grandpa. So I think he should make the choice to buy him the present or not.