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AIBU or have I found a CF?

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Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 16:47

This has been bothering me for a few weeks. Apologies – it’s a long one.

Long back story – I will try to summarize. DH has a DS from previous marriage. Ex (DS’s mother) ran off with another man years ago when DS was 9 years old, the marriage fell apart and the new relationship also fell apart after a few weeks. Ex stopped DH from having any contact with DS, despite having every court order against her. Judge even threatened to jail her but never followed through, so she just defied every court order. When DS got older (in his 20s) he made contact with DH and they established a relationship. By this time DH and I were married and had children of our own. We bought DS a car, found him a job with a friend of ours, paid for accommodation for him and helped him as much as we could. Unfortunately we discovered he was mentally unstable, he left his job (just didn’t turn up one day), accused the people he was house sharing with of raping him, dumped the car in a station car park, threw away the keys, didn’t tell anyone and disappeared to Ireland! There are more stories like this, including a spell in prison for armed robbery, but I’m trying to keep this short!

Fast forward a few more years. DS got married and had a DS of his own. He made contact again and said he was a reformed character. We formed a relationship with all three of them. We helped them when they moved house by paying the deposit and first month’s rent, bought a washing machine, bought clothes for the baby – stuff like that. DS then vanished again leaving his DW and his DS on their own. No one knows where he went. We picked up the pieces, helped abandoned DW out financially and generally gave support. DS never came back or had any more contact with his DS or DW or gave them any money, so all very sad (although DW did receive a letter from a solicitor a few years later asking for a clean break settlement). Being perfectly honest, DW isn’t my cup of tea. I feel she uses us for money. She’s borrowed from us in the past which she’s said she will repay but never has (I know she struggles and we’ve often just given her money, which we’ve said we don’t need back, but sometimes we’ve said it’s a loan and still we don’t get any repayment. When we ask she just says she has no money). I have nothing in common with her; I feel no relationship to her or her son. My DH feels the same – it’s just a quirk of fate that’s brought us together. However, we feel a duty towards the boy so have taken them both on days out, given lots of help, given advice where it’s been asked for (she’s not from the UK originally so doesn’t always know the system). I do feel it’s all a bit one sided though. They moved house recently and she didn’t seem to want to give us their new address (we were told the area they had moved to but nothing else). I felt a sense of relief tbh.

Anyway, now to come onto my AIBU. It was the boy’s birthday recently. He was 12. I asked him what he would like for his birthday and he sent me a photo of a light sabre – no link, no price. I asked for a link so I could see where to buy it and he sent a link to something that was £158!! He was very insistent that was all he wanted and there was nothing else. Now, I don’t spend £158 on my own children for their birthdays. I was actually quite gob smacked and felt very hurt as I felt used. If he’d said he would like some money towards a light sabre and sent me the link then I might have bought it, but to just expect it really upset me for some reason. I am not sure why I felt like this as he’s asked for iphones and ipads in the past, but somehow I’ve always just laughed those suggestions off. Given his mum struggles for money AIBU to not buy the light sabre? I can afford it but I just feel like a cash cow. Am I mean? He has another Granddad and Grandma (who aren’t actually a real Granddad and Grandma, just a couple they have befriended). I asked if he’d asked them for the light sabre and he said he hadn’t. Please tell me AIBU or have I found a CF?

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Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:47

gazpachosoupday · 25/06/2023 17:42

I am another one who thinks you are being very harsh on your step grandson.

DS every year for the last four has put on every birthday and Christmas list the lego Death Star (around £500) every year he gets told not a chance, he just doesnt quite get the concept of how much money it actually is, DS is only slightly younger than your SGS

It helps to know that other children ask for expensive items. I suppose I just don’t recall my children ever asking for outrageously expensive things so I didn’t realise it was normal.

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Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:49

aloris · 25/06/2023 17:43

I think I know that light sabre and I can tell you from experience that it will sit on a shelf gathering dust for at least 5 years.

I thought the same!

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Lacucuracha · 25/06/2023 17:51

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:43

I know he’s a complete waste of space and the child psychiatrist predicted he’d be emotionally harmed if he wasn’t allowed to see his dad while growing up. So while he is to blame, his mum is more to blame I think.

OP, you said your DSS ”vanished again leaving his DW and his DS on their own. No one knows where he went. We picked up the pieces, helped abandoned DW out financially and generally gave support. DS never came back or had any more contact with his DS or DW or gave them any money, so all very sad (although DW did receive a letter from a solicitor a few years later asking for a clean break settlement)”

Why on earth are you blaming the child’s mum?

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:52

Luxell934 · 25/06/2023 17:47

I was with you till the end when you said you are not his "real" grandma and grandpa. You might not be blood related to the child, your DH is his "real" grandpa. So I think he should make the choice to buy him the present or not.

I didn’t say we are not his real grandad and grandma. I was talking about another couple who he calls grandad and grandma but who are not related in any way.

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OngoingConfidence · 25/06/2023 17:54

Lacucuracha · 25/06/2023 17:51

OP, you said your DSS ”vanished again leaving his DW and his DS on their own. No one knows where he went. We picked up the pieces, helped abandoned DW out financially and generally gave support. DS never came back or had any more contact with his DS or DW or gave them any money, so all very sad (although DW did receive a letter from a solicitor a few years later asking for a clean break settlement)”

Why on earth are you blaming the child’s mum?

I read this and thought OP meant her husbands ex wife

gazpachosoupday · 25/06/2023 17:55

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:47

It helps to know that other children ask for expensive items. I suppose I just don’t recall my children ever asking for outrageously expensive things so I didn’t realise it was normal.

I honestly dont think they look at the prices they just go I want that. Now DS is older, we have given him ways to earn and save for it, including family giving him money towards it for birthday and christmas, its been a good lesson for him

I will also say that one year he asked for a litter picker,

Lacucuracha · 25/06/2023 17:55

OngoingConfidence · 25/06/2023 17:54

I read this and thought OP meant her husbands ex wife

That would make zero sense.

Applecoresweet · 25/06/2023 17:56

Probably no concept of money. It's basically a fake sword. He probably thinks it will be cheap.

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:56

Lacucuracha · 25/06/2023 17:51

OP, you said your DSS ”vanished again leaving his DW and his DS on their own. No one knows where he went. We picked up the pieces, helped abandoned DW out financially and generally gave support. DS never came back or had any more contact with his DS or DW or gave them any money, so all very sad (although DW did receive a letter from a solicitor a few years later asking for a clean break settlement)”

Why on earth are you blaming the child’s mum?

I don’t think I am blaming her, she’s been through a lot (although she did know his background before she married him so she did take a big risk). Its now got to the stage where I feel we are being used just for financial gain but can’t decide if I’m being too sensitive.

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FloofCloud · 25/06/2023 17:57

My 11 year old boy uses his light sabre all the time! He's very into weapons though, dragons, building forts and castles etc so fits with his play profile ... although his sabre was about £20 lol 😆

BanditsOnTheHorizon · 25/06/2023 17:57

It sounds like this is the straw that broke the camels back.

Your dh ds has taken the piss financially, his dw has taken the piss consistently and now the son has asked for an expensive gift. He's 12, and likely simply doing what his dm has. Don't blame him, but I'd give his some money towards the gift, an amount you're happy with. But from now onwards why not offer help or time when the dw or dgs needs it rather than money. In fact that goes for anyone who needs help, offer your time and/or help rather than money.

YoucancallmeKAREN · 25/06/2023 17:58

YABU only because you asked him the simple question of what would you like and he told you, that's how life works where you get unreasonable is you don't like his answer but he is only telling you the answer to the question he asked. I wouldn't spend that much either but maybe next time phrase the question "i have £x to spend on your birthday present what would you like within that budget ?

Charlieiscool · 25/06/2023 17:58

I think if you can afford it you should buy him the gift he wants, the poor boy. Why not? Who else tries to give him treats?

Willyoujustbequiet · 25/06/2023 18:00

It's your husband's 11 year old grandson. He's a kid who has had a difficult life and been let down by the adults around him.

He's not a cf and the fact that you said that says a lot about you.

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 18:01

BanditsOnTheHorizon · 25/06/2023 17:57

It sounds like this is the straw that broke the camels back.

Your dh ds has taken the piss financially, his dw has taken the piss consistently and now the son has asked for an expensive gift. He's 12, and likely simply doing what his dm has. Don't blame him, but I'd give his some money towards the gift, an amount you're happy with. But from now onwards why not offer help or time when the dw or dgs needs it rather than money. In fact that goes for anyone who needs help, offer your time and/or help rather than money.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. We did send money but I was feeling guilty that perhaps we should have bought the light sabre as it is probably his only chance of getting one. We have given them loads of our time over the years.

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PorpoiseWithPurpose · 25/06/2023 18:02

“although she did know his background before she married him so she did take a big risk)”

I think you mean your dh’s son took a big risk impregnating a woman knowing his own history as an unreliable flake.

You are definitely victim blaming here.

Treacletoots · 25/06/2023 18:04

Wait. So father is the one who abandoned his child, yet you think the poor woman left to pick up the pieces is the bad influence.

The patriarchy has you well trained doesn't it.

Also, this isn't "the boy" it's your husband's grandson. It's not hard to see where this misogynistic view is coming from.

Aprilx · 25/06/2023 18:04

I cannot believe you are actually referring to the child as the CF in this! When I was reading that, most of which was superfluous, I was wondering if you were going to call the son or the wife a CF, it did not occur to me it would be the child.

He has had a bad start in life, he has been let down by everyone, he probably has not been taught about the value of money yet and had no idea about the light sabre. You asked what he wanted and he answered, if you had a budget in mind you should have told him.

Iamtheonwandlonely · 25/06/2023 18:10

You could have bought one secondhand.

Or told him you'd buy it but it's birthday and Christmas present in one.
I really feel sorry for that child, reckless father and a step GP who thinks he's a CF.
He's 11 and he's had a shit life and if you've helped his dm out before don't put that on the child.
That's not his fault.

You're coming across really mean @Mrsuniquename .

Aprilx · 25/06/2023 18:10

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 18:01

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. We did send money but I was feeling guilty that perhaps we should have bought the light sabre as it is probably his only chance of getting one. We have given them loads of our time over the years.

You have given them loads of time over the years and yet you don’t feel anything towards them. It is pretty awful for you to say this, but it is despicable that your husband thinks the same. This is his grandchild not “the boy”. The pair of you seem well suited at least.

Justcallmebebes · 25/06/2023 18:12

Darknightsahead · 25/06/2023 16:51

You are having the piss taken out of you.

Cut all contact now, you owe them nothing.

Eh? This is her partner's grandson whose father has abandoned him. He's a kid, so none of this is his fault

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 18:12

Aprilx · 25/06/2023 18:04

I cannot believe you are actually referring to the child as the CF in this! When I was reading that, most of which was superfluous, I was wondering if you were going to call the son or the wife a CF, it did not occur to me it would be the child.

He has had a bad start in life, he has been let down by everyone, he probably has not been taught about the value of money yet and had no idea about the light sabre. You asked what he wanted and he answered, if you had a budget in mind you should have told him.

Lesson learnt. I will give a budget in future. I was expecting him to say Lego or something that could be a wide range of prices.

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thecatsthecats · 25/06/2023 18:12

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:47

It helps to know that other children ask for expensive items. I suppose I just don’t recall my children ever asking for outrageously expensive things so I didn’t realise it was normal.

I didn't ever ask for expensive stuff from my parents.

It wasn't a good thing, tbh. It was because I absolutely knew that the answer would be no. At least if it was a frivolous, silly, crazy thing that only a child would want.

Full size meccano set? Of course. And my dad ended up hogging it, and he was the one who worked up the gift to a huge size. OK though, it's educational.

Kids are allowed to want frivolous stuff. He probably sees your life as ridiculously well off compared to his so can't conceive that you don't have the money for it.

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 18:14

Justcallmebebes · 25/06/2023 18:12

Eh? This is her partner's grandson whose father has abandoned him. He's a kid, so none of this is his fault

Exactly, none of this is his fault, but I did think by the time children got to secondary school they had a grasp of money and how expensive things are. I realise now I was wrong to think that.

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BaiesRosesAmbre · 25/06/2023 18:17

He’s not a CF he’s a child with prob no concept of money!!!!