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AIBU or have I found a CF?

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Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 16:47

This has been bothering me for a few weeks. Apologies – it’s a long one.

Long back story – I will try to summarize. DH has a DS from previous marriage. Ex (DS’s mother) ran off with another man years ago when DS was 9 years old, the marriage fell apart and the new relationship also fell apart after a few weeks. Ex stopped DH from having any contact with DS, despite having every court order against her. Judge even threatened to jail her but never followed through, so she just defied every court order. When DS got older (in his 20s) he made contact with DH and they established a relationship. By this time DH and I were married and had children of our own. We bought DS a car, found him a job with a friend of ours, paid for accommodation for him and helped him as much as we could. Unfortunately we discovered he was mentally unstable, he left his job (just didn’t turn up one day), accused the people he was house sharing with of raping him, dumped the car in a station car park, threw away the keys, didn’t tell anyone and disappeared to Ireland! There are more stories like this, including a spell in prison for armed robbery, but I’m trying to keep this short!

Fast forward a few more years. DS got married and had a DS of his own. He made contact again and said he was a reformed character. We formed a relationship with all three of them. We helped them when they moved house by paying the deposit and first month’s rent, bought a washing machine, bought clothes for the baby – stuff like that. DS then vanished again leaving his DW and his DS on their own. No one knows where he went. We picked up the pieces, helped abandoned DW out financially and generally gave support. DS never came back or had any more contact with his DS or DW or gave them any money, so all very sad (although DW did receive a letter from a solicitor a few years later asking for a clean break settlement). Being perfectly honest, DW isn’t my cup of tea. I feel she uses us for money. She’s borrowed from us in the past which she’s said she will repay but never has (I know she struggles and we’ve often just given her money, which we’ve said we don’t need back, but sometimes we’ve said it’s a loan and still we don’t get any repayment. When we ask she just says she has no money). I have nothing in common with her; I feel no relationship to her or her son. My DH feels the same – it’s just a quirk of fate that’s brought us together. However, we feel a duty towards the boy so have taken them both on days out, given lots of help, given advice where it’s been asked for (she’s not from the UK originally so doesn’t always know the system). I do feel it’s all a bit one sided though. They moved house recently and she didn’t seem to want to give us their new address (we were told the area they had moved to but nothing else). I felt a sense of relief tbh.

Anyway, now to come onto my AIBU. It was the boy’s birthday recently. He was 12. I asked him what he would like for his birthday and he sent me a photo of a light sabre – no link, no price. I asked for a link so I could see where to buy it and he sent a link to something that was £158!! He was very insistent that was all he wanted and there was nothing else. Now, I don’t spend £158 on my own children for their birthdays. I was actually quite gob smacked and felt very hurt as I felt used. If he’d said he would like some money towards a light sabre and sent me the link then I might have bought it, but to just expect it really upset me for some reason. I am not sure why I felt like this as he’s asked for iphones and ipads in the past, but somehow I’ve always just laughed those suggestions off. Given his mum struggles for money AIBU to not buy the light sabre? I can afford it but I just feel like a cash cow. Am I mean? He has another Granddad and Grandma (who aren’t actually a real Granddad and Grandma, just a couple they have befriended). I asked if he’d asked them for the light sabre and he said he hadn’t. Please tell me AIBU or have I found a CF?

OP posts:
INeedAnotherName · 25/06/2023 18:19

The others have answered you regarding the boy and his expensive request so I won't go into that.

What I did take from your post is that you threw money at every single problem listed. Did you realise that? It's not wrong or right, just curious if you had noticed that yourself.

fireflyloo · 25/06/2023 18:20

I don't buy the whole your dh tried to have a relationship with his son but it was so hard etc etc etc. despite court orders. Nothing would keep me from seeing my child. Your dh failed his son, the son failed his son . The cycle continues.
Spending that amount of money on a 12 year old is ridiculous imo, but it's prob just a reflection of the whole messed to family.

GoodChat · 25/06/2023 18:26

You could have bought him a cheaper lightsaber.

It sounds like history repeating itself.

PorpoiseWithPurpose · 25/06/2023 18:27

fireflyloo · 25/06/2023 18:20

I don't buy the whole your dh tried to have a relationship with his son but it was so hard etc etc etc. despite court orders. Nothing would keep me from seeing my child. Your dh failed his son, the son failed his son . The cycle continues.
Spending that amount of money on a 12 year old is ridiculous imo, but it's prob just a reflection of the whole messed to family.

Agreed. Nothing in the world would keep me from seeing my child.

weirdoboelady · 25/06/2023 18:31

How about talking to your DSGC? Explain to him that you can't spend that much as it would be unfair to other family members but (important bit) ask him what he likes about light sabres. Is he Star Wars obsessed? Would he like to tell you all about this? Could you take him to a film as part of his present?

It sounds to me as if he has had a pretty awful childhood so far - this could be your route into improving things with him rather than through rather unsatisfactory mum.

Littlemissmagnet · 25/06/2023 18:31

Step up as Grandparents obviously his Dad has abandoned him. Spend some time with him he needs to be loved unconditionally now before he meets friends ( who may or may not be good for him) who fill the void when he's a teen. He's a child 🙄 explain it's a bit expensive, and work out how long he has to save for it. Meanwhile, take him out somewhere fun (theme park/safari) somewhere cheaper if money is an issue and make a fuss of his birthday. 12 year olds just need unconditional love ❤️ and to feel wanted. Please don't abandon him he's already had enough of that in his life by the sounds of it. Never mind what u think of his mother. She's probley doing her best since you know her DH has abandoned her and her DS. It can't have been easy. Good luck to your family. I hope for a cohesive future for you all. X

Stickybackplasticbear · 25/06/2023 18:35

He's an 11 year old boy ffs. Also it's really weird you call him the boy when he's your step grand child.

SayHi · 25/06/2023 18:37

My DD used to ask me for a horse for her birthday!
Kids don’t understand the value of money.

I would have said to him that I can’t afford that so he can pick something else or give him money towards it.

You seem to have a lot of negativity towards your step grandson and his wife.
I can’t believe your DH says he feels no connection to his grandson that is just sad.

Your step son is mentally ill and it’s hard but as parents things aren’t always going to be perfect.

I can’t help but feel that your stepson and his family are an inconvenience to you as when you met your DH he wasn’t in contact with his DS.

You can support your step grandson and his mum without being used.
You don’t need to lend her money or pay her rent etc.

Partyofeight · 25/06/2023 18:39

Everyone saying he's a kid, he only 11....my son is 11 and he would never make such a cheeky, ridiculous request from any of his grandparents. I would also suspect that his mother has encouraged that request. YANBU.

Lacucuracha · 25/06/2023 18:41

Mrsuniquename · 25/06/2023 17:56

I don’t think I am blaming her, she’s been through a lot (although she did know his background before she married him so she did take a big risk). Its now got to the stage where I feel we are being used just for financial gain but can’t decide if I’m being too sensitive.

You are blaming your DSS’s wife, you said ‘So while he is to blame, his mum is more to blame I think’.

What are you blaming her for?

aloris · 25/06/2023 18:41

If this is the sort of light sabre I'm thinking of, a cheaper substitute won't suffice. The expensive item feels and looks different but, if it's the one I'm thinking of, it's only for display. You can't play with it. What happens is that for a few weeks they look at it every day. Oh how beautiful it is! How envious are my friends that I have this beautiful light sabre that could almost be real!

Then they forget about it and move on to the next shiny thing.

It could also be tied up with issue's of the little boy's self-esteem. If your own dad couldn't be bothered with you, then it can really hit at your value of yourself. But if other relatives are willing to buy you expensive gifts, maybe that says you're worth something. I don't know, I'm just speculating.

The dilemma is, how do you support your step-grandson's sense of self-worth, without just wasting money on shiny things that will be out of fashion in a few weeks.

Livindavivaloca · 25/06/2023 18:41

I think the background is important as I think that gives insight as to why OP is feeling like she does about the present

SayHi · 25/06/2023 18:41

Who are you calling a cheeky fucker?

Your step grandson?

Luxell934 · 25/06/2023 18:44

DSS isn't a CF. He's a child. Maybe you need to both focus on just building a relationship and spending time with him. Especially your DH, he is his grandfather and needs to step up. It doesn't have to be about money, he didn't need a £180+ light-sabr but he does need time and love and to form a stable connection with his grandfather and step grandmother.

Daffodil92 · 25/06/2023 18:44

fireflyloo · 25/06/2023 18:20

I don't buy the whole your dh tried to have a relationship with his son but it was so hard etc etc etc. despite court orders. Nothing would keep me from seeing my child. Your dh failed his son, the son failed his son . The cycle continues.
Spending that amount of money on a 12 year old is ridiculous imo, but it's prob just a reflection of the whole messed to family.

My thoughts exactly.

MargotBamborough · 25/06/2023 18:45

He's a kid whose dad isn't on the scene and whose mum has always treated you as an ATM of sorts.

I wouldn't be surprised if he asked his mum for the light sabre and she told him to ask you.

Just tell him it's more than you can afford but you can contribute £X towards it.

OngoingConfidence · 25/06/2023 18:57

Lacucuracha · 25/06/2023 17:55

That would make zero sense.

Sorry, just read it again

MumblesParty · 25/06/2023 19:02

Never mind the gift request, what really stands out for me is how easily your partner manages to feel no emotional connection to his family. He abandoned his son (all this rubbish about ex stopping contact - yeah right - it would take more than one woman to stop me seeing my kids), and now doesn’t care about his grandson either.

Cakeorchocolate · 25/06/2023 19:17

Its not really him being cheeky if he hasn't been taught much about money or it's value by his mother.

I'd have done what you have, sent him some money towards it.

But if the mother doesn't want you to know where they live, it doesn't sound like she wants you to have any kind of relationship with him other than financial.

JaneorEleven · 25/06/2023 19:18

MumblesParty · 25/06/2023 19:02

Never mind the gift request, what really stands out for me is how easily your partner manages to feel no emotional connection to his family. He abandoned his son (all this rubbish about ex stopping contact - yeah right - it would take more than one woman to stop me seeing my kids), and now doesn’t care about his grandson either.

Yes, this is what jumped out at me, too. My husband’s ex tried her best to cut the relationship between my husband and their son, but my husband wouldn’t let anything get between him and his son.
And calling the grandson “the boy” seems cold. I’d suggest working on a real relationship with him.

greenisnotserene · 25/06/2023 19:27

This is the saddest thread I've ever seen. This child has been set up to fail, if you are one of the only stable sources of support, then the fact you've written this at all is appalling. You should be standing back and looking at what happened to this child's father and doing everything you can to let this child have a chance of life. Rather than counting every penny you spend.

Not only are you being unreasonable, you should be ashamed of yourself for judging a child in this way.

Boomboxinmyattic · 25/06/2023 19:36

greenisnotserene · 25/06/2023 19:27

This is the saddest thread I've ever seen. This child has been set up to fail, if you are one of the only stable sources of support, then the fact you've written this at all is appalling. You should be standing back and looking at what happened to this child's father and doing everything you can to let this child have a chance of life. Rather than counting every penny you spend.

Not only are you being unreasonable, you should be ashamed of yourself for judging a child in this way.

This 💯

Avondale89 · 25/06/2023 19:41

Poor child. I hope for his, and society’s sake, he turns out ok.

It’s very telling that your focus is solely on money rather than what this child has been through.

Littlemissmagnet · 25/06/2023 19:48

I'm just thinking about it. If your DH's son doesn't pay maintenance. How is she surviving? Are you both paying it on his behalf 🤔 I suspect not. I would buy the lightsaber/ shoes/clothes anything for him as it means someone cares enough about him to buy him something nice. He's getting to an age when he will start to feel his Dads absence, and soon in the next few years, he will become aware of his circumstances, i.e., money/lack of money. I feel very sorry for your SGS. I hope for good things for his future despite this start in life. He needs a solid relationship of unconditional love in his life. I hope his Mother does that. As well that can your DH or you OP can provide your time and get to know him. If you have the money and your SS isn't stepping up the plate your best placed to help him out. Make sure this doesn't go round and round and history keeps repeating itself.

HarrisJu · 25/06/2023 19:48

In future say to the dsgs this is our budget, do you have a gift in mind or would you like the money?

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