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AIBU to think Rishi Sunak is actively trying to piss off the entire country?

261 replies

Locutus2000 · 25/06/2023 15:06

Or does he genuinely not get it?

Every time he speaks he seems further detached from reality. His interview today was insanely out of touch.

Got a mortgage? Stuffed

Work in the public sector? Stuffed.

Rent your home? Stuffed

Live in a small town? Stuffed

Supported Brexit? Disaster

Not to mention the Johnson honours scandal and Liz Truss.

AIBU to think the only people happy are his fellow super rich?

Couple looking at bills

Rishi Sunak urges people to hold their nerve on interest rates

The prime minister continues to back the Bank of England as mortgage pressure rises for homeowners.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66012301

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Piglet89 · 25/06/2023 19:21

Fuck’s sake, @Locutus2000 all we need to do is hold our nerve.

I trust him even less as he said “borrow without abandon” when the phrase he meant was “borrow WITH abandon”.

BitOutOfPractice · 25/06/2023 19:21

SerendipityJane · 25/06/2023 19:10

It's a sadly predictable trait of the British to despise winners. Tall poppy syndrome and all that.

what on earth makes you think Sunak is a winner @SerendipityJane? In what shape or form has he won anything.

itsgettingweird · 25/06/2023 19:25

Serendipity not one of my friends who voted for brexit is happy with it.

Even my staunch Tory supporter friends don't think it's working - they just blame other factors.

So there are plenty who didn't think that we'd get this with brexit.

loveandpoprockz · 25/06/2023 19:28

The Tory party are no longer the party for the middle classes. They only represent the ultra wealthy (well, the ultra who don’t own businesses that will be affected by Brexit). Their time is up. I predict that Sunak will be living in the US in 2 years time and we will have a Labour government.

Fightyouforthatpie · 25/06/2023 19:30

Mytholmroyd · 25/06/2023 19:18

Sunak was helicoptered into the safe seat of Richmondshire after William Hague (who at least was a local person) resigned and he's clearly not up to the job. It covers a huge rural mainly farming area including several market towns and the c. 12,000 soldiers in the Catterick Garrison which is NOT a well off area nor are a lot of people who live and work in the countryside - we have foodbanks etc like everyone else does.

It is though, a very traditional, conservative with a small c, constituency but not necessarily dyed in the wool tory - Richmond council didn't have a single tory councillor before it was subsumed into N Yorks council recently.

I'm really hoping for a big revolt against Sunak at the next GE 🤞but it might be a forlorn hope. He's a useless orator and just a puppet for big business. He reminds me of a spitting image puppet to be honest - a walking talking parody.

Hague wasn't a fucking local. He's from South Yorkshire.

AhNowTed · 25/06/2023 19:30

13 years of this self-interested corrupt shambles, 5 x PMs and god knows how many secretaries of state, and people still talk like they're a serious government.

Blows my mind.

Fightyouforthatpie · 25/06/2023 19:30

loveandpoprockz · 25/06/2023 19:28

The Tory party are no longer the party for the middle classes. They only represent the ultra wealthy (well, the ultra who don’t own businesses that will be affected by Brexit). Their time is up. I predict that Sunak will be living in the US in 2 years time and we will have a Labour government.

Sunak will definitely fuck off the USA, won't he?

groupery · 25/06/2023 19:45

Why does no one even ask the question that tax rises for the very wealthy could be one measure to help bring inflation down? Surely a journalist worth their salt would at least ask the question. A lot of people benefit from the fact wealth is taxed far less heavily than income. Many don't want that too change.

groupery · 25/06/2023 19:48

And obviously the government who lied to us about the benefits of Brexit aren't to blame in anyway?

Do people still not get that politicians lie?

£350m for the NHS?

You are telling me you actually believed this?!!

Fizzadora · 25/06/2023 19:50

I am yet to be convinced that anything will change under a labour government. They were a shower of shite last time. There were just as many sleaze ridden, money fleecing pigs with their noses in the trough and there still are.
MP's are mostly rich tories pretending to care for the voters, no matter which colour they nail to the mast.
I got ripped to shreds for this opinion on another forum by some self proclaimed 'educated' (who implied I was not) gobby socialists, but I stand by it.
I have no faith in any of them and unless there are some fundamental changes in the attitude and policies (that I can trust) of both main parties before the next GE, for the first time in over 40 years I have no one to vote for.

Shinyandnew1 · 25/06/2023 19:54

Lots of things were much better under a Labour government certainly from a ‘children’ point of view-school funding, NHS funding and services-there was actually someone to refer pupils to when there were issues and you could find an NHS dentist, children’s centres, libraries etc

groupery · 25/06/2023 19:54

Otherwise, their policies of shifting wealth from poor and middle income groups to the ultra rich is not in your interest.

People don't understand this though. They aspire to be rich so they don't vote for things that they believe will disadvantage their future richer self. They don't realise that it just makes the gap between them and the actual rich wider.
It's why people are really angry now. They are the middle classes, the ones who work hard, they ain't feckless. The tories aren't meant to be coming for them.

Anniegetyourgun · 25/06/2023 20:00

"I didn't think the leopards were going to eat MY face..."

Mytholmroyd · 25/06/2023 20:04

Hague wasn't a fucking local. He's from South Yorkshire

😂 Okay @Fightyouforthatpie you win but he did live here. 'South' Yorkshire's just a fucking made-up place - doesn't exist in my head!

Mytholmroyd · 25/06/2023 20:06

loveandpoprockz · 25/06/2023 19:28

The Tory party are no longer the party for the middle classes. They only represent the ultra wealthy (well, the ultra who don’t own businesses that will be affected by Brexit). Their time is up. I predict that Sunak will be living in the US in 2 years time and we will have a Labour government.

I agree @loveandpoprockz let's hope so 🤞

StormShadow · 25/06/2023 20:09

LadyKenya · 25/06/2023 19:20

This. But people will still vote for these moral degenerates, especially since they appear to know what a woman is. Never mind the fact that they will say anything to cling to power.

Lots of them don't, in any case. Penny Mordaunt doesn't, for starters, and there's a very real chance we could end up with her as PM before this shitshow finally collapses. She clearly still fancies the job, and Rishi's not exactly bossing it.

Swrigh1234 · 25/06/2023 20:10

RosaGallica · 25/06/2023 19:02

I wonder if we finally have a prime minister who recognises that we have to crash the housing market. Wages are out of touch and they won't raise them, nor deal directly with serious inequality through tax, so they need to lower the cost of living going forwards.

It's come 20 years too late: it will not affect the boomers who have made their money screwing us all over, and it will further screw over my generation, the xennials, the first of generation rent who have not long picked up house keys and mortgages. But we have always been the sacrificial goats, no one has ever given a shit about those of us sandwiched between the media friendly boomers and millennials, especially not if we had no bank of mum and dad.

Why he's doing it and now is open to interpretation: because he genuinely recognises it needs to happen? Because he knows they won't get elected next year and so can take the shit decisions that need to be done, even if it is too late? Because his cronies are practising disaster capitalism?

MN re inforces the notion that not everyone should be allowed to vote. The sheer stupidity of this comment. Apparently this person thinks a crushing recession with millions of job losses is way to make housing more affordable. The mind boggles.

TooBigForMyBoots · 25/06/2023 20:13

StormShadow · 25/06/2023 20:09

Lots of them don't, in any case. Penny Mordaunt doesn't, for starters, and there's a very real chance we could end up with her as PM before this shitshow finally collapses. She clearly still fancies the job, and Rishi's not exactly bossing it.

Yep. Mordaunt will be the next Leader of the Tory party, the only question is will it happen before or after the GE.

SerendipityJane · 25/06/2023 20:23

Fightyouforthatpie · 25/06/2023 19:30

Sunak will definitely fuck off the USA, won't he?

Does he still have a green card and it's associated allegiance to the US ?

Charltonandthewheelies · 25/06/2023 20:43

chopc · 25/06/2023 16:44

I don't think any party will be able to do any better right now the way things are.

However I feel Sunak actually is actually qualified to lead us out of this misery whereas Starmer is not

I want Starmer to actually talk more about what he can do better rather than just slag off the tories.

This

usernother · 25/06/2023 20:47

@PinkiOcelot Were we really?!

When I said we I should have clarified I meant on my section at work. Can't speak for the rest of the public sector obvs. But our employer has a very low turnover of staff, and it's a good place to work. And I do think the benefits I pointed out should be taken into consideration. My OH works in the private sector and he'd love to be able to get lieu time and time off sick on full pay etc.

mycoffeecup · 25/06/2023 20:49

BunnyBettChetwynnd · 25/06/2023 18:26

Here's a reminder of Labour's plans -
Freezing council tax
Proper windfall taxes
School breakfast clubs
13,000 more police officers
8,500 more mental health professionals
And more.
https://labour.org.uk/buildabetterbritain/

And Lib Dems -
Cleaner water
More doctors, nurses, paramedics
Planned support for businesses
https://www.libdems.org.uk/plan

Labour have repeatedly been asked where they are going to get these MH professionals and they don't know. Most of them will be school leavers who have done a 6 week course, I suspect.

SunnyEgg · 25/06/2023 20:53

itsgettingweird · 25/06/2023 19:25

Serendipity not one of my friends who voted for brexit is happy with it.

Even my staunch Tory supporter friends don't think it's working - they just blame other factors.

So there are plenty who didn't think that we'd get this with brexit.

With people so unhappy I don’t know why it isn’t more on the agenda at GE. If people want to vote on it it would give a mandate.

SunnyEgg · 25/06/2023 20:54

Unhappy with Brexit that is

It’s the one area that will actually get some funds going. Labour are still going to struggle without it

TooBigForMyBoots · 25/06/2023 21:24

Charltonandthewheelies · 25/06/2023 20:43

This

Our system is that a Party is in government, not an individual. That's one of the ways the Tories destabilised the UK.

Vote Cameron's Tory party, get Theresa May's Tories.
Vote Theresa May's Tory Party, get Boris Johnson's Tories.
Vote Boris Johnson's Tory party, get Liz Truss's Tories.
Rapidly followed by Rishi Sunak's Tories.

Their instability has made the UK a much more unstable, uninvestible place. Vote for Rishi Sunak's Tory party, you're going to get a different leader, probably Penny Mordaunt.

The last time a Tory PM lasted an entire term they were in coalition. The party is a chaotic mess.