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AIBU to think Rishi Sunak is actively trying to piss off the entire country?

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Locutus2000 · 25/06/2023 15:06

Or does he genuinely not get it?

Every time he speaks he seems further detached from reality. His interview today was insanely out of touch.

Got a mortgage? Stuffed

Work in the public sector? Stuffed.

Rent your home? Stuffed

Live in a small town? Stuffed

Supported Brexit? Disaster

Not to mention the Johnson honours scandal and Liz Truss.

AIBU to think the only people happy are his fellow super rich?

Couple looking at bills

Rishi Sunak urges people to hold their nerve on interest rates

The prime minister continues to back the Bank of England as mortgage pressure rises for homeowners.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66012301

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Dorrmouse · 25/06/2023 17:25

All Tories, and most MPs, are over privileged out of touch wealth cocooned twats who've mostly never done a day's actual work in their lives. I don't think Starmer is the Messiah or even a good alternative, but when this bunch of venal Tory fuckwits are finally kicked out and all their supporters are either dead or, in the case of most of the red wall, have rediscovered their single brain cell, I hope we never see another Tory government in my lifetime.

We will, of course, as generally people are stupid and uncaring and let the red tops and the Daily Heil and the Boris Broadcasting Corpse do their thinking for them.

I never thought I'd see a government worse than that of that demon Thatcher, but I was wrong. Rish! and his cabal don't just live on another planet, it's more like a parallel bloody dimension.

1dayatatime · 25/06/2023 17:26

groupery · 25/06/2023 17:07

People who voted for Brexit are defo to blame in part.
What do posters expect Rishi to say?

She are those that supported the lockdowns and standing up against Russian aggression (myself included).

TheCyclingGorilla · 25/06/2023 17:26

I work in the public sector and I don't feel stuffed at all. I'm very well paid for what I do, we get flexi time, lieu time, 30 days holiday, 6 months full pay if off sick. Things people don't usually get in the private sector. We were all happy with our pay award this year.

Well, bully for you. I'm also in the public sector and happy with my wage. But millions of others aren't. We should care about them. And we should care about those in the gig economy, zero hours, or those stuffed in the private sector. Just because we are fortunate, doesn't mean we shouldn't complain on behalf of those less fortunate.

Babyroobs · 25/06/2023 17:27

1dayatatime · 25/06/2023 17:04

@Locutus2000

So I thought I would play devils advocate on this one. So going through your points whilst I don't disagree with your conclusions, you do question whether Sunak is entirely to blame:

Inflation (and therefore interest rates) has gone up due to a combination of three main reasons:

  1. Brexit - this makes it more difficult to import goods from the EU, particularly food which then makes food more expensive.
    It should therefore be noted that the majority who voted for Leave are in part responsible (or actively wanted) this higher inflation.

  2. Covid spending- the Government borrowed/ created £500 billion of debt that was then injected into the economy through bounce back loans, furlough, PPE contracts, eat out to help out etc.
    The majority of the public supported the lockdowns understandably in order to protect the elderly and vulnerable. You may disagree with how the money was spent or how wisely it was spent but once the approach was decided upon lockdowns rather than doing nothing then money had to be spent which inevitably would lead to higher inflation (eg Germany early 1920s).

  3. War in Ukraine - this led to a sharp increase in energy bills due to a reduction in supply of Russian gas to Western Europe.
    Now there was a choice to either stand up against Russia and support Ukraine which leads to higher energy prices or selfishly throw Ukraine under a bus and do nothing in order to keep getting cheap energy from Russia. I personally think it was the right thing to stand up Russia as otherwise Europe would for ever be blackmailed by Russia on other issues through cheap energy supplies. But I recognise and accept that the price for this was higher energy bills.

So depending on where you sit on the above three points then we are all partly responsible for higher inflation, higher interest rates and higher Government debt.

Totally agree with this. There has been mismanagement of the economy to some extent but the factors you've mentioned particularly covid spending have had enormous repercussions that was always going to put us in a major economic crisis.

MurielThrockmorton · 25/06/2023 17:27

He was absolutely heartless to many of us excluded from Government support during Covid, mainly the self-employed. Many Conservative and other MPs implored him to help, and suggested ways around his objections, but he ignored them, smirking and being economical with the truth while he was doing so.

TheDogsMother · 25/06/2023 17:28

No no, we're all in this together ! Rishi has had to take a second job to keep up the mortgage payments and he's asked Mrs Sunak to start meal planning to get the cost of the food shop down. Oh wait ..

TheDogsMother · 25/06/2023 17:29

MurielThrockmorton · 25/06/2023 17:27

He was absolutely heartless to many of us excluded from Government support during Covid, mainly the self-employed. Many Conservative and other MPs implored him to help, and suggested ways around his objections, but he ignored them, smirking and being economical with the truth while he was doing so.

Yup ! #excluded

Pearlsaminga · 25/06/2023 17:32

silly posh rich boy
lispy little wishy washy rishy

PinkiOcelot · 25/06/2023 17:32

Humphriescushion · 25/06/2023 15:21

Agree. His “we will get through this” or similar is nauseating!

This.

Patronising prick. I’m sure we could all ride the storm quite nicely if we had his billions in the bank.

Pearlsaminga · 25/06/2023 17:33

him, and that cunt, and johnson, I want to see them all (METAPHORICALLY) swinging from lampposts

Pearlsaminga · 25/06/2023 17:34

'hold your nerve'
as if we're all hedge fund managers betting against the pound
fucking cunts

MollyNameChange · 25/06/2023 17:36

Please remind me about the other plans.
The ones which offer better results.
Were they from LibDems? Would you like us to follow similar policies to France or Germany?
Please give me some real reasons for voting for another party. Not merely NOT the Tories because they are rich.

PinkiOcelot · 25/06/2023 17:36

usernother · 25/06/2023 17:16

usernother
How are you stuffed if you work in the public sector? Because we’ve had below inflation pay rises for over a decade and the government is doing their best to keep it that way whilst also cutting funding to the services that we offer?

I work in the public sector and I don't feel stuffed at all. I'm very well paid for what I do, we get flexi time, lieu time, 30 days holiday, 6 months full pay if off sick. Things people don't usually get in the private sector. We were all happy with our pay award this year.

Were we really?!

FiddleLeaf · 25/06/2023 17:39

LlynTegid · 25/06/2023 15:14

His soft interview today. What if he had to face one by someone who actually challenges in interviews, like Beth Rigby or Sophy Ridge? Or an aggressive one such as Andrew Neil?

But why? She got the answers and it’s ‘put up and shut up’. It’s up to voters to hold the tories accountable.

FanFanBam · 25/06/2023 17:40

I love how he thinks holding their nerve is going to pay people’s mortgage.

Mischance · 25/06/2023 17:46

We do need to bear it, ride it and come out the other side. We can't throw money at the issue because 1. We haven't got it and 2. It won't do anything to tackle the root cause of inflation.

Are you one of those people who bought Mrs Thatcher's erroneous claim that national budgets are like domestic budgets?

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 25/06/2023 17:50

He literally does not care either way. He's emigrating to the USA when he's voted out. Being prime minister was just another stepping stone to vast amounts of money for him. I honestly don't know how anyone can still support the Tory party on any level.

Pearlsaminga · 25/06/2023 17:53

power corrupts, the longer they have it the more corrupt they become, they'll be at the Gollum stage soon ... surely?

MurielThrockmorton · 25/06/2023 17:54

@TheDogsMother Flowers - it was shit wasn't it? I'm still suffering the effects. Serious illness, possibly made worse by the lockdown, but having to work through treatment to pay off a bounceback loan and keep my business afloat because my savings were decimated during Covid.

Fightyouforthatpie · 25/06/2023 18:05

MollyNameChange · 25/06/2023 17:36

Please remind me about the other plans.
The ones which offer better results.
Were they from LibDems? Would you like us to follow similar policies to France or Germany?
Please give me some real reasons for voting for another party. Not merely NOT the Tories because they are rich.

The other parties are advocating a fairer deal for ordinary people. If you are as rich as Rishi and co, self-interest might persuade you to vote Tory (although you need to be very rich to properly benefit). Otherwise, their policies of shifting wealth from poor and middle income groups to the ultra rich is not in your interest.

itsgettingweird · 25/06/2023 18:07

PTSDBarbiegirl · 25/06/2023 15:23

He doesn't GAF. He knows Tories are out at next GE and has been taxed with the job of bleeding as much opportunity from selling off NHS and squeezing public sector dry and lining up offshore banking to protect the £trillions of money that should be part of the UK tax coffers so it's owners can keep taking the piss out of UK voters. Fuck Sunak.

This.

They can't win. Not if the British people actually care about this country.

The Tory's know they won't win.

So they are going for a win for themselves creaming off all the cash - and they aren't even being subtle about it anymore.

itsgettingweird · 25/06/2023 18:11

chopc · 25/06/2023 16:44

I don't think any party will be able to do any better right now the way things are.

However I feel Sunak actually is actually qualified to lead us out of this misery whereas Starmer is not

I want Starmer to actually talk more about what he can do better rather than just slag off the tories.

Well qualified Sunak cost is £11 million for forgetting to insure borrowing during covid.

Doesn't give me much confidence he knows what he's doing!

And Racheal Reeves in labours economist.

Sunak isn't ours either now - it's Hung.

itsgettingweird · 25/06/2023 18:14

groupery · 25/06/2023 17:07

People who voted for Brexit are defo to blame in part.
What do posters expect Rishi to say?

And obviously the government who lied to us about the benefits of Brexit aren't to blame in anyway?

£350m for the NHS?

SerendipityJane · 25/06/2023 18:17

itsgettingweird · 25/06/2023 18:14

And obviously the government who lied to us about the benefits of Brexit aren't to blame in anyway?

£350m for the NHS?

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That wasn't a government "promise". It was a bunch of wide boys who knew they would never have to make good on it, to a British Public they knew would never hold them to it.

It wasn't worth the paint it took to write.

itsgettingweird · 25/06/2023 18:19

But it's one of the reasons people voted Brexit (or those that believed it - I didn't and was remain!)

So posters saying people chose this because they chose Brexit are wrong. This is a consequence of Brexit but it isn't what those who voted leave believed we'd be getting.