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Is anyone satisfied with the amount of maintenance they receive?

113 replies

MaxwellCat · 24/06/2023 18:42

Just wondering as I see so many threads where people are unhappy with the amount of maintenance they get but Is anyone satisfied with the amount ? Or is everyone unhappy with the amount they get? As someone that gets absolutely zero and never has I am often shocked when people are getting hundreds but still think it isn’t enough (I’m talking £500+) I don’t think anyone should be grateful and of course every nrp should be paying for their kids but just wondering if anyone feels satisfied with the amount they get?

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Beezknees · 26/06/2023 08:53

BibbleandSqwauk · 25/06/2023 11:19

@x2boys but realistically most 18yo uni students do get help from their parents and stay in their home for the 22 weeks a year they're not in term time. Why should that fall solely to one of the two parents? Worse, when the RP has remarried, the step parents income is counted when the student is assessed for any grants etc, so they are expected to contribute but the nrp is not.

That's precisely why as a RP I will never get married or have a partner living in my home.

taxpayer1 · 26/06/2023 12:07

ItsBritneyBitchhhh · 25/06/2023 22:50

I’ve just name searched @taxpayer1 posts on other threads. What an absolutely lovely person you are!👍

The intolerance of whoever has a different opinion than the misandrist crew is hard to believe

Beezknees · 26/06/2023 12:11

taxpayer1 · 26/06/2023 12:07

The intolerance of whoever has a different opinion than the misandrist crew is hard to believe

You're intolerant of a lot of people in difficult financial situations, so expect the same in return.

BibbleandSqwauk · 26/06/2023 12:24

I'm intolerant of people who refuse to accept that there are plenty of single mothers who don't rake in benefits, do work v hard and do pretty much all of the parenting because their exes skipped out on what we're previously much wanted and planned children.

I'm intolerant of people of blame one group of society for the flaws and faults of another and insist that there MUST be another side to it which explains why all these men have fucked off and left their exes to bear the brunt, in the face of pretty overwhelming evidence. That's not misandry.

FloydPepper · 26/06/2023 12:41

ColonelBrandonsPiano · 24/06/2023 20:13

I get a good amount of maintenance but it’s nothing like the standard of life my child would have if both parents are still together. The lifestyle of the paying parent is definitely a factor (as mentioned above) and children should have similar standards of living in both homes where possible.
If you wanted a certain standard of life for your child when you were together, really you should want to continue that as much as possible.
I work full time and I’m a higher rate tax payer but even with maintenance I can’t match the standard of living that my ex husband is able to provide. Holidays are only with him as our budget doesn’t stretch to it.

spreading income over 2 households will always lead to a reduction in living standards for both. People should accept that and not assume their standard will remain the same (while the other parties falls)

BibbleandSqwauk · 26/06/2023 14:42

@FloydPepper I totally agree..except that it always seems to be the NRPs that stays the same or increases as they move on / in much quicker whilst the RP is shouldered with childcare costs and limited earning potential plus the minefield of blended families. If, as is so often the case, the dad has moved on and is living the single or child free life of Riley on 82% of his salary while the RP is holding it all together by hook or by crook, that's not right. As others have attested, RPs do not get to ring fence 82% of their salary.

ColonelBrandonsPiano · 26/06/2023 17:11

BibbleandSqwauk · 26/06/2023 14:42

@FloydPepper I totally agree..except that it always seems to be the NRPs that stays the same or increases as they move on / in much quicker whilst the RP is shouldered with childcare costs and limited earning potential plus the minefield of blended families. If, as is so often the case, the dad has moved on and is living the single or child free life of Riley on 82% of his salary while the RP is holding it all together by hook or by crook, that's not right. As others have attested, RPs do not get to ring fence 82% of their salary.

Definitely this. I’m currently anxiously trying to arrange care for in office days and the idea of being able to find a new relationship/have a dual income household ever again seems impossible. I’m definitely taking the hit in terms of reduced life circumstances.

taxpayer1 · 26/06/2023 17:18

BibbleandSqwauk · 26/06/2023 12:24

I'm intolerant of people who refuse to accept that there are plenty of single mothers who don't rake in benefits, do work v hard and do pretty much all of the parenting because their exes skipped out on what we're previously much wanted and planned children.

I'm intolerant of people of blame one group of society for the flaws and faults of another and insist that there MUST be another side to it which explains why all these men have fucked off and left their exes to bear the brunt, in the face of pretty overwhelming evidence. That's not misandry.

It's intolerance because you fail to accept that is not a gender issue. There are many men that behave as you portray them but there are many horrible women that use children to punish their exes and withhold contact for financial reasons. You fail to accept that there are many men that want to be in their children's lives, that want to pay their fair share but are not allowed. It surprises me how all the posters portray themselves as role models and martyrs of motherhood and their exes as vile human beings. Then quickly reveal that they won't want to share custody, that they don't want to lose one minute of their children's life but are happy with the father being completely absent. Quickly the domestic violence accusations follow with lengthy court cases.

BibbleandSqwauk · 26/06/2023 17:30

@taxpayer1 you don't get to "whatabouttery" out of this. Look at the statistics. Something like 98% of single parents are women. There's billions now in unpaid maintenance from male NRPs. Please can you provide likewise figures for numbers of men being kept from their children by court orders denying them contact (because I assume they would have done that, not just accepted a "crazy ex" stopping them).

I have told you this on more than one previous thread but I and every other single mother I know would be delighted, thrilled, to share custody and "give up" precious time with their children if the fathers wanted it. They don't. And mine was one of those married, dedicated dads..til they weren't. Of course I don't deny that some cases such as you describe exist, but that does not go one inch to make anything said on this thread about the overwhelming status quo being that men are failing their children in drives, and many times the multiple of women that do.
Cases that I know of where a woman has blocked access is frequently because the father does not impose discipline or basic hygiene, or bedtime, or decent food and they pay the price with turbulent kids dropped back in an emotional state completely unable to face the next week of tightly run school / childcare etc that the resident parent has to negotiate like a razorwire tightrope. Or they leave them alone, or ignore them, or take them places they don't want to go.

HRTQueen · 26/06/2023 17:33

The difference is we agree using children as weapons is wrong no one is going to say that is fine

Men not stepping up to be responsible fathers is acceptable. They are given praise for being responsible 🙄When are women praised for acting as a responsible parent. I get told that my ds is lucky that his father is so involved in his life, he isn’t lucky this is what should be expected the bar is so so low for men it’s appalling that we have got to this where a man who is a good responsible father is seen as an exception and not the rule

Beezknees · 26/06/2023 17:53

My ex doesn't want to see DS at all, I would LOVE for my son to have his father in his life.

It absolutely is a gender issue, the majority of lone parents are women.

IncomingTraffic · 26/06/2023 17:58

It is a gendered issue. Statistically it is abundantly clear that significant numbers of MEN do not meet financial or social responsibilities towards their children after relationship breakdown. That is undeniably true.

Attempts to deny this or downplay it are horrendous. If MRAs want to be taken seriously, it would be a good idea to start with acknowledging and addressing the very well established problems with men’s behaviour, rather than playing the victim of evil ‘misandrists’.

Sandalholidays12 · 09/11/2023 16:08

I hope those who are getting nothing or ridiculous amounts like £15 per week have asked CMS for a mandatory reconsideration?? Failing that the next step is court because its the courts who hold the power to challenge NRP earnings.

I'm still awaiting a court date so it's been just over 12 month wait. I have my AL review with CMS and my exs yearly earns have gone from £5k to £50k. How funny is that? Since he knows I've involved the courts he has decided to declare his correct earnings to HMRC.

I shall now be receiving £450 per month! I'm actually disgusted that he has been underpaying for our only child we have. I shall be fighting him to get the money back from this year also.... Good luck to all the RP here.

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