Child's school asking for biometric data

[DyslexiaNightmare]

Fingerprint data and facial recognition. Is this widespread? How is it even allowed? Children can't consent to giving biometric data. It's not for me to give away. Even if it is to a school.

How difficult will it make things due to the fact that I'm not consenting to this?

At senior school level, ie in UK over 11, I think kids coming and going as they need is reasonable. CCTV etc means exits can be monitored as can corridors etc.

Can somebody remind me about Blakenhall as mentioned above?

Without wishing to sound facetious I dont think a school shooter is going to turn round and head home if the receptionist refusew to buzz him in

If there were frustrated rampagers in any number why aren't they attacking other non secure public buildings? Its not logical that school attacks if this type are being prevented by physical security measures

At most it will stop angry parents bathing I. To shout at the HT

Of course 4 year olds can't consent. That's why they're asking your permission as parent, the person best placed to make that decision on their behalf. Just like you would if your child needed surgery. You make that decision for what it's best for them. Your child might have emergency surgery, a blood transfusion and then as an adult decide to become a Jehovah's Witness and be very angry you consented to something they wouldn't have agreed too. Your are making a decision based on what's best/easiest/morally correct for your child.

@Dacadactyl and you think that's because you're the superior parent???

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I'm just saying it triggered the security.

And its making kids safer by securing the site. Kids can't be 'abducted' by feuding parents, kids can't escape as easily and be lost etc.

It's isn't just about madmen waving guns and machetes.

Man with a machete got access to a primary and attacked 4 adults and 3 kids.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverhampton_machete_attack.

So, you were worried that a school who knew her name, date of birth, address, ULN, parents contact details, exam results, SEN status, FSm status, possibly held information such as passport details etc can't be "trusted" to have a 6 digit number stored in a database that held exactly the same information about your daughter in the form of a swipe card....?

It's makes absolutely no sense that a plastic xard is somehow more trusted than a 6 digit number generated from random points on a finger print that is never stored anywhere...

And presumably you obviously didn't allow your daughter to have a mobile phone, social media, bank cards etc...

This isn't new. We used fingerprint scanners to buy lunch when I was at school, 15 years ago.

None of those things need you to give someone else your fingerprint though, which is what we're discussing.

Doesn't your phone have a fingerprint reader on it? Or face recognition camera? Or both?

And besides, IT ISN'T STORING YOUR FINGERPRINT!!!!

It does feel like a lot of people on this thread are creating their own conspiracy theories, which is genuinely quite worrying to be honest.

But you don't understand.... A third party will have a copy of a 15yo lads actual FINGERPRINT! Just imagine the privacy concerns.... Just imagine what BioStore is doing with that information. Probably selling it on the dark web to Chinese mafia who will implicate that 15yonin some organised crime syndicate.
The scanner probably is taking his actual DNA too and sending it abroad and there's now 35 copies of him working the mines...

Well she's not bright enough to be a spy then of she thinks that...

What do you think is being stored?

What do you think could be done with it?

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Yet you trust them with your kids name, dob, address, FSM, SEN status, exam results, your name, your address, your phone number, your email, any other contacts details, handling financial transactions/passport information for trips etc...

Fucking hell...

Did your 4 year old consent to their immunisations? Did your 4 year old consent to you taking that photo from Christmas and sending it to your mother? Did they consent to you using their birthday money for a bike? Did they consent to you registering them at the school?

You have to use your finger print to get into the parks at Disney World from the age of 3 and no one complains. My son has autism and adhd, his finger is about the only thing he can’t forget to take with him!

I don't use my fingerprint for anything, nor face recognition. I don't really like it and I don't feel comfortable with my children using it. It's not a conspiracy theory, it just feels a bit unnecessary and like a use of technology that I don't really want or need. My fingerprint also doesnt scan well, the few times I've tried (for example getting into the US) it had to be taken manually.

It's not crackpot to feel a bit hesitant about our children's biometric data being taken and stored if we don't think it's necessary. Schools worked perfect well without it when I was there, and honestly I've never heard of it until this thread. The sneery attitude is a bit excessive.

I don't think I've missed anyone asking why in England the 4 year old isn't getting universal FSM?

Yet you have no qualms about giving apple/Google... even Mumsnet your personal data? Companies that are known data breachers?

And you happily trust the same school with financial transactions and passport details for trips .... and holding your personal data and your partner's and maybe even your parents name and phone number as well as everything they know about your about your child in a variety of connected systems...

But nooooooo.... A school using a 6digit code based on points of a finger in order to simplify and streamline processes is a step too far?

No it doesn"t!

I am sure there are people who have complained. But going to Disney World isn't the same as going to school, is it?

Did anyone say they were?

I’m assuming the OP is talking about the standard form you fill in when a child starts school saying if you consent to them being on the website etc.