To think it’s ironic all the stops are being pulled to rescue 5 people from a submarine

[MrsMillhouse]

Yet…. The world allows a boat with hundreds including children to sink

Do you ever swim in the sea? Or go on a boat trip? Or how about go for a drive that isn’t necessary or for a life threatening reason? Those things come with risk of accident and death. You choose to do then knowing that and in the hope that if something happens you will be rescued. What’s your cut off point? How do you decide who gets to be rescued for indulging in their past times and who doesn’t? The RNLI rain their lives rescuing people who get into trouble at sea but I bet if this was about someone who was having a swim or a surf off our coast and got caught in a rip you wouldn’t be frothing about it. It’s a ridiculous idea that some people don’t deserve to be rescued, everybody does and thankfully those people who work in mountain or sea rescue don’t care they do their jobs or voluntary because they’re decent people.

*risk their lives not rain

As they get little Bartholomew and Theodore ready for private school and his after school polo lesson.

It’s lots of things, but it’s not ironic.

As long as it doesn’t involve doing anything, getting up at 2am with the RNLI in the freezing cold to help a capsizing over full dinghy. It’s easy to say ‘the world doesn’t care’ if all you have to do is post a line.

Hasn't it always been the case?

Yep to all the posts picking up on this one

I can think it was a silly thing to do but also feel that they should be rescued. I feel exasperated by both the people in the mini sub, as apparently it's a bit of a DIY disaster but also think that people who pay people traffickers and get on overcrowded boats are not thinking it through, especially when most are economic migrants. So basically I can have both thoughts at the same time. Both sets of circumstances are sad, both are down to not thinking it through, but they should all be saved.

Is this really news to you that some lives are valued more than others? I just don’t think it can be.

There's quite a morbid fascination with this sub! The way I look at it though is that by trying to help these self styled explorers (continuing the centuries long tradition of rich men doing silly things) we are developing skills to help submariners in the future, our men and women who go below the waves to help with world security!

They are attempting to rescue the submarine crew because they were not attempting to break the law like immigrants on boats.

Eh? There are children on those boats, innocent children who aren’t ‘attempting to break the law’. Of course they deserve to be rescued. Fucks sakes, they shouldn’t be condemned to death because they try and come into our country, what a pile of racist shit.

This exactly!! It’s nothing to do with rich people, it’s to do with circumstances and unusual events.

Like the Thai football team, the Chilean miners, the world both had the time and therefore went to assist.

I think your post is dreadful and if you have limited sympathy because they are rich then that says a lot about you. Will the mother or sister of the 19 year old be any less worried because he's wealthy? Life is life. In the scenarios you refer to both sets of people know there are risks, one set admittedly is hoping for a better life. I think expeditions to the titanic are disrespectful and shouldn't be allowed. It's essentially a macabre grave. I don't agree with the expedition but it doesn't mean they don't deserve to be saved if possible.

Shame on you.

The information on what potentially happened on the boat that sank is do horrific I don't know how to process it.

I want to live in a world where we try to rescue everyone. I think part of doing extreme activities is accepting rescue may not be possible but I want us to try.

Well yes, they are. That’s the world we live in, it’s not fair but it’s always been that way. I’m amazed you’ve only just noticed this to be honest.

I might (though not likely) get stuck in a submarine whilst looking at the sea bed - I won't be on a boat illegally crossing the Med.
Hence.....
Nor will I starve from lack of food, I'm enjoying my breakfast.

The whole thing is unbelievably stupid and reckless and negligent, but nevertheless one of the main purposes of emergency services is to go and try to save stupid, reckless, negligent people so…

Being trapped in a bolted metal box, in the dark, with the air slowly running out, is an absolutely horrific way to die. Of course every effort should be made to rescue those people.

I can't believe this is even up for discussion.

No one just lets migrants drown either - rescue services are constantly out there pulling people from the sea.

I hope that too.
I also hope that they get a big bill for the rescue

Well, I would like "all the stops to be pulled" to

eradicate malaria
eradicate polio
stop Russian aggression
stop China's imperialism
prevent violence against children
halt & reverse climate change
reform prisoners compassionately to prevent future crime
create an attitude of compassionate toughness on the causes of crime
Stop littering and fly-tipping
Stop routine food waste in restaurants
Treat opiod addicts
make active travel the culturally default and easy choice everywhere
put solar panels on all new build sunny-place roofs

Put giant wind turbines all over the countryside above crops

It's not happening, is it. Funny how the world doesn't follow my priorities. How dare they!

Exactly, neither the people on the sub or those on the boats should have the sneery moral highgrounders saying 'they deserve it'

There was tones of news coverage right up until this weekend. Until they find out more, there won’t be much more. Do you expect them to carrying on covering everyday, even when there’s nothing to add at this point?

The submarine situation is still on going. Things are changing, new information, a countdown etc. it’s constantly changing with new I formation, so yes. There’s coverage of it right now. If it’s found today and everyone (god forbid) is dead. The story will die down, just like all stories do when there’s no new info.

Huge efforts are put into saving people being trafficked across open water. There should be more, but let’s not pretend there’s nothing.

This thread is vile. As is the comment from the post moaning about rich white people. Incorrect for a start. But also, how sick to be ok with someone dying an awful death as long as they are white.

both are horrific but yes some lives are considered more valuabl

It’s tied in with Titanic story that has kept us entertained as it’s so dramatic for over 100 years and now continues to as horrific as it is

how can they allow a child on board that’s what I can’t get my head around