Next door telling us off for being loud?

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Weekeend away we're sat outside chatting over a meal with friends (7 women all over 45). Man next door appears at balcony and aggressively shouts 'keep the noise down, we live here - it's not all holiday homes'.... it was 7.20pm...! Is it unreasonable to sit outdoors and talk over a meal? I could understand if it was 10.20pm...

SnackSizeRaisin · Today 19:49
7 women make a lot of noise. He probably has to live with that every weekend, that's why he's annoyed.”

Quite. If we were told next door was a holiday home, we wouldn’t buy.

Don't be daft. No one is saying that. It could just as well been a woman who was irritated. As many in here have said they would be

Yabu. I'm living next to someone who has recently started holiday letting & I'm pissed off with the noise, the overparking of multiple cars, the social gatherings & parties. People don't realise that it's a residential area not a holiday park.
I am on the same page as this guy & I'm very close to shouting over the fence & giving them something to think about.
The worst thing about it is that the guy who owns the house has said he's not even supposed to be renting it out as it's against his mortgage agreement. Wanker

Would he have shouted aggressively at 7 men? No. Of course he wouldn't.

Fuck him! Not literally but seriously who does he think he is? It was 7pm..

I can't believe women on here are telling you to go sit inside because one man decided to tell you to be quiet.

It wasn't midnight and it's a holiday let so he needs to take it up with the owner, I'd definitely be mentioning him in my review.

Enjoy your weekend 🥂

OP on the face of it you weren't personally doing anything wrong, socialising in the garden early evening.

But you have to put this in context - this poor bloke has to listen to different groups of people socialising week in week out. Some of whom are probably very loud very late. It's not like having normal neighbours where it would be very occasional. It would drive anybody insane and I can completely understood why he snapped.

You don't know if he wasn't speaking for his whole family. Not everything is a gender issue. Sometimes people are just people & noisy loud Airbnb's next door are really fucking annoying. I'm totally with him on this.

What kind of arsehole makes a terraced house into a bloody holiday let for groups. It's bad enough the detached over the road being one, still hell for the closest neighbours. Can't imagine being the attached property, must be absolutely awful. It's not even that the OP is wrong here, it's the owner of the property. There needs to be rules put in place for turning residential properties into air b&bs.

It's a seaside destination, the property was booked legitimately through Hoseasons. No reason to believe there would be an issue with enjoying the outdoors that early in the evening. None of us are big drinkers - we only had half a glass of wine each with our meal. Each floor has some sort of balcony. We were sat at a large table enjoying a meal. I sympathise with him living next to a holiday let but we're not responsible for any previous guest issues. It was so early and it was our first evening away. We were just chatting and reminiscing. It was the way he shouted at us that was unnecessary and disproportionate.

He shouldn’t have shouted at you, it’s aggressive and rude and unnecessary. That said, as someone who lives in a village where there are a lots of holiday makers, my heart would sink if I saw a group of 7 drinking and chatting at that time in the garden next door. You may not have been at the start of a long evening of drinking and increasing volume but a lot of groups like that would be and it’s easier to set out your stall earlier than try to tell a group of drunk people to quieten down later on. I suspect he was letting you know he wouldn’t take any shit later. It’s also hard in summer when it’s more comfortable to have the window open but the holiday makers are chatting and/or playing music whilst you’re trying to sleep.

Anyway, sounds like he was still ruder than he should’ve been but he’s probably had multiple bad experiences before.

Feed back to Hoseasons. They need to let the owners know.

Why 'over 45'? Does loudness suddenly become more annoying when the perpetrators reach middle-age?

You said "next door" in your subject heading as if it was your next-door neighbours at home.

It turns out it is a resident and you are in an Air BnB let, making noise.

Why do you think he wants to listen to you?

It's interesting reading all these sympathetic messages, yet if I were on a thread about someone objecting to holiday homes in Wales being a nuisance having a negative effect on the community and in some cases destroying them, I think the tone would be a lot less sympathetic.

It’s only a couple of years since we were told we should be socialising outside or we would KILL GRANNY. I am not a big socialiser but I actually like that people use outdoor spaces for socialising more than pre Covid.

OP YANBU. People are actually allowed to sit outside and socialise at 7.30 on a summer weekend evening, irrespective of whether it’s all holiday homes, all residential, a mix or whether he’s putting a baby to bed. I’m an antisocial git and very quiet but I underand that other people are allowed to have a life and that often involves making a reasonable amount of noise.

What sympathetic messages? The OP is being ripped apart for booking a holiday through a reputable website and sitting outside at 7.20pm. The man sounds like an utter twat. The issue needs to be brought up with the owners of the holiday let, so guidance can be given re noise levels and requests that large parties socialise outside elsewhere. I really fail to see what the OP has done wrong. She was on holiday, it’s not her fault the man next door lives next to a holiday let. If he has a problem there are ways and means of dealing with it that don’t involve shouting at people for making noise in the early evening. Why not ask politely?

A twat and probably a sexist as well. I bet he wouldn’t have shouted at a group of 7 men.

I can sympathise with the man if - as pp have suggested - he might have reached the end of his tether because he's sick of noisy parties going on next door to him till all hours of the night.

BUT I think he was unreasonable to shout at you at 7.20pm on a Friday evening if you weren't drunk, shouting or otherwise behaving unpleasantly.

He could just have said something like, 'We're trying to get a baby to sleep/I have to get up early to go to work tomorrow, so please could you keep the noise down.'

Hope your weekend away with your friends isn't too soured by this, OP.

Everyone who books an Airbnb in a residential area, in a house that's clearly meant to be for a family, needs to take a serious look at themselves. They are a total scourge on a community, totally tearing it apart with noise, anti social behaviour and increased strain on amenities. In this time of a significant housing crisis it's completely immoral that family homes are rented out for massive profit for short term lets. Put them all in holiday parks and either use them or stay in hotels.

Why do you think people can’t sit outside and eat in the early evening? Whatever their tenancy status?

Bearing in mind that it’s unbearably hot so all his windows are likely open, he most likely thought you lot were being unreasonably shouty too.

@SamphireSandwich because when you've had week after week of full capacity Airbnb guests sitting outside, you might just get to the end of your tether. These places will rent out a house to 7 adults when in fact a normal family would usually be a maximum of 2. 7 adults can make an incredible amount of noise, even when they don't mean to. Hearing a few adults and some kids in their garden every night is very, very different to an ever changing procession of 7 or more adults.

Another human who dosent know how to communicate.

It's not what you say, it's how you say it.

He could have asked in a better way. Aggressive and horrible people get nowhere.

There are ways of talking to people.

I have lived in places next to or above holiday lets. It’s a nightmare. My reading of his reaction is that he was anticipating that this was the start of yet another evening when he can’t get any peace, yet another night when he won’t be able to sleep until the early hours, another Saturday when he can’t face work because he’s barely slept. These are all real problems that Airbnb has brought into the world. I was lucky enough to be able to move out of the last place. If it happened again now, there’s no way I could afford to move again. And as a house owner you’re essentially powerless. The owner of the holiday let most likely lives somewhere miles away and had an agent run it for them. Agents don’t give a shit. Honestly, it doesn’t take much imagination to think why he might be pissed off by this situation, does it?

Oh yeah because there’s no other reason at all like chronic illness, elderly ill parent or being under intense treatment like chemotherapy etc.