Is my friend being unfair for wanting her Ukrainian guests to leave

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I hope I can give as much info as possible .
My friend had 2 sets of Ukrainian guests in her home , the first ones where 2 girls early 20s friends , they left after 4 months having found a 3 rd friend to rent an apartment, had jobs and studied and no issues at all .
She then decided to host a mum and daughter , but turns out it was a mother , daughter and son . Mum in her 30s , daughter 12, son 15 . She had told them from the start it was a short stay of 6 months as they are staying in a apartment attached to her home that she normally rents as a holiday home in the summer . The 6 months have come and gone and they refuse to go .
None of them is working or going to school , oldest has since turned 16 . They claim universal credit and she found out PIP they claim pip ( found out as the mum wanted to install a electric car charger as she is expecting a motability vehicle ) .
The mum and son smoke , she has asked them multiple times to not smoke inside . Twice she left the girl and son alone for days as she went back to Ukraine , first for dental implants , second for skin treatment ( she is unsure of what it was ) . They all went back to see the grandparents this week .
Unknown to her they adopted a kitten so when they went they asked her to feed the cat . She called me last night distressed , she went in the apartment and it’s a mess , the kitten peed everywhere , it stinks of cat pee , they clearly smoked in the house . They haven’t cleaned for ages and there are 3 kitchen cupboard doors broken , toilet seat broken , what looks like punches on the walls .
She is beyond stressed , this apartment was fully redone 20 months ago , new plaster , bathroom and kitchen .
She wants them out now , but last time she told them to leave the mum and son kept saying things as “ what will your neighbors think , throwing out refugees on the street “.
We are in a small Scottish village , everyone welcomed refugees with open arms so she is scared people will think she being unfair . I’ve told her nobody will think that .
My friend is a widow with 2 kids , that apartment renting in the summer in income to help her pay her bills , she probably lost all income for this summer as even if they leave it will need go be fixed .
Is she being unfair for wanting them out ?

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To add ..Ask some neighbours or other local people to be with her when her guests leave. This is so that when she takes the photos they can verify the truth of the matter.
Move then out right away.

They're not tenants! They are classed as 'guests' and the host is entitled to end that arrangement at any time.

I agree with PPs about changing the locks immediately, while they're out of the country, and ideally putting their personal belongings somewhere else for them to collect (the local council is supposed to be responsible for the scheme so if they have an office nearby.... if not maybe the police could take care of the stuff?)

Also agree about letting people in the village know what state the house has been left in, and the threatening texts. Hopefully if this family do come back to Scotland they'll end up in a different place entirely.

The cat needs rehomed, and not given back to a family who just abandon it when they fancy going on holiday.

The council tell hosts to liaise with them in this situations.

They may try and mediate but ultimately they will rehouse as the responsibility lies with them.

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If she TELLS the council they will be made homeless tomorrow, legally they have to deal with it then and there.

Trust me.

I know someone who did this.

The council will try and delay but ultimately if you TELL them they haven't got a choice. They will have to put them up in emergency accommodation

Yes if you want to leave the scheme. But you can evict the guest any time and without notice even within the first 6 months. You simply need to notify the council.

Does your friend have a child who is under the age of 18? In that case threats and cannabis smoking is also a safeguarding concern and council HAS to deal with it pronto.

Thank you all , another update . She needs to call the council again on Monday to inform them but a local police officer called , he told her to pack their stuff and give them their direct number and then block their numbers and plan a day to collect their stuff from the police station , he said my friend doesn’t need go be there . Because the 16 yeast old has been sending threats all day including messages saying she is not allowed to touch his things and he will put her in jail by saying she stole from them etc , the police also offered to send one officer tomorrow to oversee the packing ( dependent on having enough available ) . We are using a go pro camera while we help her pack tomorrow .
Unfortunately the idea the officer gave was that similar issues had happened before , which is very sad if it’s true .
My friend is so overwhelmed, she is a lovely person and did not deserve this

Hopefully its of some reassurance to her that she has the support of the police, and that she isnt being horrible by wanting them out.

Honestly we need to get tough with people. Its not cceptable to send threatening messages to people. The whole family should be removed back to Ukraine. Theres no recourse for anyones actions these days.

It's completely luck of the draw.

Some people are good. Some aren't.

You deal with accordingly. Not on the basis of their immigration status.

They shouldn’t be allowed back into the country. We have enough lazy layabouts of our own without importing more.
It’s good to hear that the police are taking her concerns seriously.

If your friend would find it useful there are a couple of supportive Facebook groups for those who have had H4U hosting breakdown. Unfortunately she is not alone but sounds like she (and you) are doing all the right things.

OMG.
Poor friend. What an angel to be so generous and kind when 99% of the population turned their backs away. No eay should she feel guilty. She's done over and above her fair share. I'm sorry to hear its turned unpleasant.

I don't know her legal position but it now seems terribly unfair that she's loosing valuable income. I don't think the government have a solution, they just hoped good
people would open their doors without an ending worked out.
I hope she gets a mutually agreeable solution soon

Your friends kindness has been abused. And by the sounds of it Scotlands kindness too (Safe enough to go back for cosmetic treatments to me would mean safe enough to live!).

Being a refugee doesn’t mean it’s okay to be a disrespectful dick. Your friend needs to get rid of them asap!

I don't know why people can't believe this could be true. There are bad apples in every group, including refugees. This type of person, wherever they're from, goes through life taking all they can get and abusing the system without a single moment of guilt. They're the reason people hesitate to get involved, because if you're unlucky, you're stuck dealing with someone who will make your life hell.

Good luck to you and your friend, OP. I hope it goes smoothly and she can start to put things back to rights. She's fortunate to have you!

I am Ukrainian, have lived and worked my arse off in the UK over 20 years. I tell you as is - that is not a proper Ukrainian woman’s attitude to life. We are hard working, home-makers, proud to earn our crust. Regardless of nationality, she sounds like a free loader. Party over, off she fucks and your friend should focus on herself.

Nobody is celebrating the deaths of people drowned trying to reach safety. That is a family tragedy for the families who have lost people they loved. I feel for the Syrian and Afghani refugees, but I am not convinced that there is an opportunity for them in our gilded cages. A generation of work learning to be Greek or Spanish or British or German, while their children are educated into being European, would help cultivate regions of Europe being desert-ified which is happening via climate change.

With respect, this can't be the first time you have heard of sponsors having issues like this?

So good to hear the police have turned up and your friend is getting help. I hope now the police are involved it will go smoothly.

To be fair, none of those other groups would have had a massive government campaign to house them. They would not have had people encouraged by newspapers lining up to house them and boast about their good deeds all over Facebook.

It’s very relevant. The support the Ukrainians have been given is unprecedented in modern times compared to others such as Syrians, Afghans, Sudanese and Yemeni’s.

Thanks

I am pleased that the police are being so supportive in this situation and that your friend won’t have to face them again.

unfortunately in every society there are bad people so it’s not a reflection on Ukrainians generally. It’s just the way the world is.

I’m not and hope nobody here believes this is nationality related . They are bad people , you get them anywhere and please know I’m by no means saying every Ukrainian is like this .

Great the police are sorting this. Reminf your friend she did a good thing. Twice. One group have taken the assistance graciously and made the best of their circumstances (as have the little group who stayed with my family, I know it's not what they would have chosen but it's lovely see them settling in and the little girl doing well at school), one have had no idea how to behave and sadly it seems the kids are learning from this. I hope they find themselves on a better path.

So pleased that the police have helped in such a direct way.