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Unalive...!

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sparkleice · 16/06/2023 14:29

Dead!

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TheCatterall · 16/06/2023 15:51

@EyelessArseFace generally not the case - you can get social media bans and timeouts for using dead and sex etc. This brought about unalive and ‘seggs’.

Groups that commonly have those words used in posts face being marked down by fb and can have restrictions placed on them.

Cas112 · 16/06/2023 15:53

I think it's more to do with the apps.. certain words flag up and they delete the posts etc

Cas112 · 16/06/2023 15:54

MyFaceIsAnAONB · 16/06/2023 14:57

It’s because the apps detect talk of suicide etc and take your post down. So it’s a way to get around that. I mean it’s pretty obvious really.

I thought it was obvious too

EyelessArseFace · 16/06/2023 16:04

TheCatterall · 16/06/2023 15:51

@EyelessArseFace generally not the case - you can get social media bans and timeouts for using dead and sex etc. This brought about unalive and ‘seggs’.

Groups that commonly have those words used in posts face being marked down by fb and can have restrictions placed on them.

How stupid.

Gingernaut · 16/06/2023 16:08

I've seen this on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook

Murder, death suicide and a whole host of other words are caught by antisocial usage filters, so in order to get around the filters, killers "merc" their victims, suicides "unalive" themselves or "check out"

sparkleice · 16/06/2023 16:12

Well it's stupid, because the apps can just add to the filters, its no hard to do

But I guess the apps like it as they can pretend they are being careful

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Soubriquet · 16/06/2023 16:14

Fb is horrible for this. I hate seeing it. Dead is a normal word. It shouldn’t be corrected

sparkleice · 16/06/2023 17:48

Theunamedcat · 16/06/2023 15:36

You should try explaining how to do DIY on Facebook or talk about weeds on my animal crossing group you cannot nail ANYTHING to a wall screw anything etc etc and weeds? Have to be spelt w33ds

I posted about my weeds are dead
Dead dead dead

Not blocked, or removed on facebook

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GottaGirlcrush · 16/06/2023 20:07

afaloren · 16/06/2023 14:33

You’re not allowed to say dead or kill myself or various other things on tiktok so it comes from that.

Says who?

cannaecookrisotto · 16/06/2023 20:08

It's to get round flagging and filtering.

gamerchick · 16/06/2023 20:11

Soapboxqueen · 16/06/2023 14:33

I think it's because some social media platforms get upset at certain words so they have to use alternatives.

This. I'm seeing a fair bit of nem rather than men when saying something negative. As well as other words being jumbled up a bit to escape the filters.

The flagging is random as well which doesn't help.

Soon words won't make much sense at all.

gamerchick · 16/06/2023 20:12

Yeah and seggs for sex.

user1473878824 · 16/06/2023 20:12

CaloundraBlues · 16/06/2023 14:34

What's Seggs?

When a mummy and a daddy love each other very much…

Inkypot · 16/06/2023 20:14

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 16/06/2023 14:32

It's horrid isn't it. But I think it's to avoid the auto filter thing that gets triggered by the word dead / death.

See also: Seggs Envy

Argh yes! Unalive I can just about understand (though it grates on me) but seggs just yeauch.
Even secs I could just about see but seggs just sounds sludgy and horrible.

ShowOfHands · 16/06/2023 20:16

I am a member of a couple of FB groups and they keep getting flagged for use of the word "men" so it has to be written "m3n" instead.

FuckNuggets · 16/06/2023 20:19

It's to avoid being censored.

porridgeisbae · 16/06/2023 20:25

It started as a euphemism for s***e because some platforms like YouTube demonetize or hide videos that mention that.

I think it's quite clever.

porridgeisbae · 16/06/2023 20:26

I've not seen it as a euphemism for death in general, just 'unalived himself' etc

Arewehumanorarewecupboards · 16/06/2023 20:29

user1473878824 · 16/06/2023 20:12

When a mummy and a daddy love each other very much…

I love this.

Arewehumanorarewecupboards · 16/06/2023 20:34

As others have said, it’s due to censorship on a lot of sites although I have noticed it spill over into real life on our CAMHS unit.
If teens find it easier to say that they want to in alive themselves rather than that they want to kill themselves that’s fine, I just want them to be able to express that.

minou123 · 16/06/2023 20:50

It's just modern slang as a result of new technology.

To me, it's no different then how "text speak" slang came about.

I remember my parents being cross about the destruction of language because of "r u ok", "omg" and "lol" or "I h8 u" 😁

But now it's part and parcel of everyday language. Some people still use it, some don't. I've caught my parents sending an occasional OMG.
We've just become our parents and now we are the ones complaining about this new slang.

For anyone who is under the age of 20 and doesnt know what im talking about, back in the old days when mobile phones became affordable, they were very basic. We didn't have cool mini keyboards like we do on our smart phones.
Instead only had the number key pads and each number was allocated 3 letters.
To type a SMS message, you had to keep pressing the right number until you got the letter you wanted.
It took bloody ages to write a text message.
So, text speak evolved so it would be quicker.

sparkleice · 16/06/2023 21:22

minou123 · 16/06/2023 20:50

It's just modern slang as a result of new technology.

To me, it's no different then how "text speak" slang came about.

I remember my parents being cross about the destruction of language because of "r u ok", "omg" and "lol" or "I h8 u" 😁

But now it's part and parcel of everyday language. Some people still use it, some don't. I've caught my parents sending an occasional OMG.
We've just become our parents and now we are the ones complaining about this new slang.

For anyone who is under the age of 20 and doesnt know what im talking about, back in the old days when mobile phones became affordable, they were very basic. We didn't have cool mini keyboards like we do on our smart phones.
Instead only had the number key pads and each number was allocated 3 letters.
To type a SMS message, you had to keep pressing the right number until you got the letter you wanted.
It took bloody ages to write a text message.
So, text speak evolved so it would be quicker.

but its also gamer speak

I go for a biologiacal break - or loo break - BIO
away from the keyboard - AFK
be right back - BRB

this is not shorter or text speak, its wank speeck of people thinking they are so clever to come up with words that get through filters

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WiddlinDiddlin · 16/06/2023 21:28

Might seem daft but if you run a group on FB and get too many dings for breaking various word filters or 'community standards' which is easy to do...

For example, mistyping 'you dog' instead of 'your dog'...

Then you can get temporarily suspended, unable to post in groups or do admin tasks etc etc, or worse!

I run or admin around 30 groups, some of which are income generating. I cannot risk losing functionality on FB because I wrote 'your bitch is dead pretty' or 'I have died of cuteness overload you twat, stop sending me puppy porn'...

Even video sound content can be monitored, I have had friends have accounts suspended, videos removed, for totally innocent commentary, that is flagged because the bots do not grasp context at all.

FB is rolling out the ability for admins to say 'no FB, this is actually ok in the context of our group' but it is slow (not in any of the groups I currently manage!)

minou123 · 16/06/2023 21:44

sparkleice · 16/06/2023 21:22

but its also gamer speak

I go for a biologiacal break - or loo break - BIO
away from the keyboard - AFK
be right back - BRB

this is not shorter or text speak, its wank speeck of people thinking they are so clever to come up with words that get through filters

It's still language that's evolved because of technology

Text speak or gamer speak evolved because it was quicker than typing out the words
Using alternatives to "dead" or " sex" has evolved to get around filters on social media.

Either way, they both came about because of technology.

You think it's wank speak, thats OK.
in the 90s, my parents thought text speak/gamer speak was wank speak for lazy uneducated people.

In 20/30 years time we will have new technology and there will be new slang and lanuage will evolve because of that technology.
If Mumsnet is still around, no doubt there will be a whole new generation complaining on MN about the "wank speak" people are using.

jellyminelli · 16/06/2023 21:45

"this is not shorter or text speak, its wank speeck of people thinking they are so clever to come up with words that get through filters"

Yeah OP, you're cleverer

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