To believe in forced castration?

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Sorry if this has been done before, but AIBU to think forced castration should be in place for paedophiles and people of child bearing age who have been convicted of any form of child abuse?

I get people have bodily autonomy; but the protection of children surely comes first?!

Just read the thread where a couple have already lost one child to care, are neglectful to another (disturbed) child, with social services intervention, and now pregnant with another.

I also have a family member who has 6 children with different inappropriate fathers, in and out of prison, social services involvement and criminal convictions. Providing a shit childhood for multiple innocent children who will be affected for life.

Why are we so again castration as a mechanism to stop further reproduction in damaging environments?

In many cases, people with prior child abuse convictions just have subsequent babies immediately removed. What's the point? Just stop them being able to have kids and the problems sorted?

While I understand the desire to do something. I think we should be locking pedophiles up for longer and take their freedom rather than forcing people into medical procedures.

Luckily for us all you aren't a policy maker OP. The sound of jack boots outside Downing Street is not something I want to hear in my lifetime.

There is functionally no difference between the "prevention" that you claim to seek and the punishment you are denying will occur. They are the same thing.

I want positive interventions to be properly funded to support struggling families who are at risk rather than treating them as subhuman and forcing them to be sterilised.

I have repeatedly told you why forced castration and sterilisation is a bad idea. You could be maiming a completely innocent person for starters! I have also advocated for whole of life tariffs as the only certainty against future crimes. And please do not liken death to imprisonment again because that was really silly.

If this is anything to do with Nicola Sturgeon leave the poor woman alone🤔

Poor, poor arguments, poor poor engagement.
Luckily for you op we don't have a policy to castrate/lobotomise those who lack the intellect or critical thinking to engage in debate.

I could potentially advocate for that. (JOKING)

Because if such a policy were put in place op, there'd be absolutely nothing stopping a government from widening the bandwidth to include you. You've displayed some real ignorance on this thread. What if it was decided that people unable to think critically about the past or those with poor history knowledge were unfit to breed.
Shit creek and paddle

And please don't compare castrating abusers with Nazis and the Holocaust. It's ridiculous and totally inappropriate

it’s not at all inappropriate, it’s bang smack in the middle of appropriate I call out your opinion for exactly what it is. eugenics, and a disgusting violation on rights. exactly the type of policy adopted by the Nazis.

YANBU.

The nazis sterilised several hundred thousand people.

Forcibly sterilised

I want positive interventions to be properly funded to support struggling families who are at risk rather than treating them as subhuman and forcing them to be sterilised

Yes this! I see it every day through my job - families repeating the pattern over and over - because no one has actually helped them develop the tools to change - invest in proper support for families - this costs MONEY but that is how you make children's lives better and prevent those children echoing their parents lives.

No, not lobotomised - ‘labotomised’ ie. turned into a labrador. Please read posts properly.

I’d pull the bloody lever myself.

I can't see an argument against it and I would expand it cover a wide range of criminals. If we can stop criminals having children we could massively reduce crime.

It's a slippery slope. Whilst I totally agree that people who abuse/kill children absolutely shouldn't have any more, where does it end? Sterilise anyone deemed not fit to have a child? What would the criteria be? Poor people? People with learning difficulties or chronic health issues? People with mental health issues? Where would it end?

It’s funny how all the ‘progressives’ against this seem to just be fine with the state castrating and mutilating children in the name of trans rights.

Being serious, the only strong compelling argument that I’ve seen against capital punishment is that far too often the wrong people are killed. The idea of men being castrated or (fucking hell) women being forcibly sterilised by mistake is horrifying.

absolutely nuts OP.

I agree with you but all the bleeding hearts well bleat on about human rights whilst forgetting the rights of the innocents. Castration and sterilization would save so many babies and children from horrific abuse and suffering. But no, let's care about the abusers rights 🙄

Nope, not this one.

Nope don't agree with that either.

My very first post brought up how these drugs are being used to sterilise gay kids.
I don't think it is particularly progressive to not want to hand the state that kind of power?

@AlwaysGinPlease I agree with you but all the bleeding hearts well bleat on about human rights whilst forgetting the rights of the innocents

do you include me in that? An abuse survivor? I work with struggling families and young offenders amongst others , at least my 'bleeding heart' is informed by actual experience not online pitchfork waving.

not me either ffs

This might be the stupidest post I’ve ever read on this site. And that’s saying something.

Ah yes the fascist approach to control the "criminal class".
Some absolutely batshit nonsense on here.