Parking charge notice

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DP's job and job description does not involve any driving at all. One of his Supervisors doesn't drive (although is advertised as a necessary requirement for his position) and subsequently (very often) DP is asked to ferry this supervisor around in a company van. In doing so he's inadvertently drove in a bus lane on a road he doesn't know at 22:00. There has been a penalty charge notice issued and DP is expected to pay this personally?

This can't be right surely?

Yes, because he was the one driving, the liability (by law) is his.

When I have had to drive places for work in the past it has always been very clear I am responsible for any parking tickets or driving offences. It’s pretty standard and not the companies fault he wasn’t paying attention to the signs.

Why wouldn't it be right. The driver is responsible for observing the rules of the road and therefore liable for the fine.

The fact he doesn't enjoy driving his supervisor is a completely separate issue to the fine.

Your DP shouldn’t be driving if he can’t cope with not driving on a unfamiliar road that has a bus lane. What a stupid thread.

If its standard then fair enough, I don't drive so no idea but surely he should have signed some sort of liability agreement or something???? The fact that his Supervisor doesn't drive and I'd a requirement for the job makes me angry also because he should be getting his own parking tickets!! DP was being directed by the supervisor after all.

Would you expect the company to pay the fine if he'd been pulled over for speeding?

@JauntyJinty no, but I do think the supervisor should at least pay half.. considering he should be driving himself around but can't.

He also needs to make sure he has business cover if he is driving in his own vehicle.

The driver is always responsible. I don't understand why it be anything else. Your DD shouldn't be driving if she can't read the signs.

Your argument is bizarre. You don't need to drive to know that the driver is the person responsible for driving in the bus lane and therefore responsible for the fine. Saying his supervisor is directing him is daft, if his supervisor said drive 70 in a residential area would your dh do so just because his supervisor said so? Of course he wouldn't or at least I bloody hope he's not the foolish.

Your DD needs to make sure her car has the correct insurance if using it for work. It be slightly more expensive.

OK I accept I am BU. So should he not have signed any kind of liability agreement for driving a company vehicle?

DP was being directed by the supervisor after all.

DP shouldn't have been blindly following directions, he should have been paying attention to the road markings and signs.

Of course he's responsible. He was driving. Even if he was being directed, he should have paid attention to road signs. Your DP can drive so he should be aware he is responsible. Also echo on the business insurance, he will need it.

Your partner is responsible for following road signs and driving safely, nobody else.

Ahh it's a company van, sorry, the company should be paying for the insurance as part of their fleet. Not the individual.

I don't think any company would have a liability agreement for an employee who breaks the law when driving.

He's the driver. He broke the law. He pays the fine.

Unless boss told him to drive in the bus lane

@FiveShelties so the company was taken over in January apparently previous to this, it would have been covered by the company

It doesn't matter if he was told to drive in the bus lane, he's an adult who knows knows where he can and can't drive.

The age old adage of if someone told you to jump off a cliff springs to mind.

@Fandabedodgy well technically he did. DP doesn't know the roads so was going to drive the long way round. Supervisor insisted he went through town as its quicker and he would direct him.

He's already paid the fine, so it's not a major issue, and i accept i Am BU. But I am going to tell him to refuse to drive the supervisor around from now on. It's ridiculous that he's been doing it for so long anyway.

So the previous company was happy that their employees were breaking the driving rules? That could be seen as encouragement to break the rules and very unusual.

@FiveShelties no idea, just what DP was told at work last night.

Presumably if the Supervisor directed him the wrong way up a one way street or to turn into a no entry road he wouldn’t have
The ultimate responsibility is the drivers