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Does drinking a bottle of wine, alone and at home on a school night, indicate a drinking problem?

291 replies

guineacup · 07/06/2023 16:29

Or am I over-reacting? I'm just concerned about a friend who causally told me this earlier...

OP posts:
bringincrazyback · 08/06/2023 19:07

Lozois99 · 08/06/2023 19:02

It doesnt indicate a drinking problem. It indicates a mental health condition.

Oh, come on.

TheaBrandt · 08/06/2023 19:08

Christ her poor liver will be in a right state. Also the calories will be insane.

I love wine chocolate and cake but have to moderate my consumption of all to avoid become an obese alcoholic.

Solonge · 08/06/2023 19:34

Everyone is aware of the number of units given as a ‘safe’ number weekly. There is even discussion about that now being too much. I used to drink probably three or four bottles of wine a week when i was working, but was concerned about my drinking and stopped. Wasnt hard, i didnt have a problem stopping and havent drunk for over ten years. I think its a worry if its self medication, used as a crutch and an addiction. Also if its causing any problems health wise or socially.

CelestiaNoctis · 08/06/2023 19:46

If you drink every day you have a problem.

crosstalk · 08/06/2023 19:51

Agree with people it's medically too much all at once and impairs driving for much longer as the body processes alcohol slowly. Every night, not great. Had an older university friend who realized he should cut down and vowed in his holiday cottage not to drink by himself. The village didn't know what had hit it ... he was so keen for people to visit.

lookingforchangenowww · 08/06/2023 19:58

Hahaha good to hear I’m not the only one.
I stopped drinking a full bottle per day though and strict myself for 2-3 glasses a day max 🤭

I keep saying I will go back to drinking only weekends..until the working week starts and there I am on a Monday running back home to chill out and have a glass cheering to life 🍷🍷🍷
I don’t care
life is short to not indulge yourself with what makes you feel good

anon666 · 08/06/2023 20:04

I think so and I'm an ex problem drinker.

It depends on how it's affecting her, but the person themselves can be the last to recognise it.

There are leaflets for those wondering if they have a drink problem which identify the sorts of things you need to look out for, and drinking alone is one.

DanceMonster · 08/06/2023 20:17

CelestiaNoctis · 08/06/2023 19:46

If you drink every day you have a problem.

No one has said the person in the OP is drinking every day, though.

butterpuffed · 08/06/2023 20:18

NatM70 · 08/06/2023 19:07

Yes, if every night, then it is absolutely a problem.

And it is a very slippery slope.

It takes only two weeks to become addicted, so this is certainly not safe.

That's approx 42 units per week. Or more, depending on the alcohol content of each bottle.

I worked for an alcohol advisery centre, drinking a bottle of wine a night, especially alone, is a huge red flag and she needs help if she'll accept it, but I'm guessing she's in denial.

OP didn't say if it's every night . They've not been back since yesterday afternoon so maybe they weren't asking for a friend .

Two weeks to become addicted ? Surely it depends on weight/height and lots of other factors ?

NatM70 · 08/06/2023 20:25

butterpuffed · 08/06/2023 20:18

OP didn't say if it's every night . They've not been back since yesterday afternoon so maybe they weren't asking for a friend .

Two weeks to become addicted ? Surely it depends on weight/height and lots of other factors ?

I know they didn't. I am basing it on if it is every night.
I am only guessing, but if they can down a bottle of wine and do it alone, I am guessing it's not unusual.
Even if every other night, or twice a week, it's still too much for one night.
Good point...Not everyone can be helped sadly.

NatM70 · 08/06/2023 20:28

butterpuffed · 08/06/2023 20:18

OP didn't say if it's every night . They've not been back since yesterday afternoon so maybe they weren't asking for a friend .

Two weeks to become addicted ? Surely it depends on weight/height and lots of other factors ?

Oops, sorry.

Yes, two weeks of heavy drinking is the average it takes to become fully addicted.
Honestly, I worked in this area for a long time and obviously had to do training for it.
Weight, age, height, none come in to it - It's drinking heavily and consistently for approx two weeks, and it is a full blown addiction rather than a 'need' to drink every night.
But the need to drink every day or night is also a form of alcoholism.

Daftmum47 · 08/06/2023 20:36

I could probably drink a bottle a day if I let myself, and ‘trained’ up to it. But I’d feel absolutely awful!

I probably have been in a bad habit of drinking half to 2/3 of a bottle most nights - easily done - at least a bottle of beer.

I’m overweight and overwhelmed - doing some hard yards in life just now. Someone IRL recently said she’d gone to the Sober School - https://thesoberschool.com/ . I think it seems quite spendy but looks very good, if it works it’s worth it, I suppose.

I need to give my head a wobble and get a grip. Also addicted to my smartphone just now too.

My parents were very heavy drinking functional alcoholics - 13 bottles of wine and 7 bottles of gin between them every week - so I’ve got generational chains to break. Also means that the 14 unit limit looks to me like some kind of fairy story.

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Ilovecleaning · 08/06/2023 20:55

a whole bottle is quite a lot.

DanceMonster · 08/06/2023 20:57

NatM70 · 08/06/2023 20:28

Oops, sorry.

Yes, two weeks of heavy drinking is the average it takes to become fully addicted.
Honestly, I worked in this area for a long time and obviously had to do training for it.
Weight, age, height, none come in to it - It's drinking heavily and consistently for approx two weeks, and it is a full blown addiction rather than a 'need' to drink every night.
But the need to drink every day or night is also a form of alcoholism.

In my younger days I often drank heavily for 2 weeks solidly on boozy holidays then came home and went back to my normal life, with no booze.

Welliehead · 08/06/2023 21:13

NatM70 · 08/06/2023 20:28

Oops, sorry.

Yes, two weeks of heavy drinking is the average it takes to become fully addicted.
Honestly, I worked in this area for a long time and obviously had to do training for it.
Weight, age, height, none come in to it - It's drinking heavily and consistently for approx two weeks, and it is a full blown addiction rather than a 'need' to drink every night.
But the need to drink every day or night is also a form of alcoholism.

I also work with addicts and this isn't something I've ever heard!

When I drank more than I do now I'd often drink every day for two weeks in France on holiday!

NatM70 · 08/06/2023 21:21

Welliehead · 08/06/2023 21:13

I also work with addicts and this isn't something I've ever heard!

When I drank more than I do now I'd often drink every day for two weeks in France on holiday!

I must be wrong then...

DanceMonster · 08/06/2023 21:26

NatM70 · 08/06/2023 21:21

I must be wrong then...

Well, unless I’m a medical marvel, 2 weeks heavy drinking certainly didn’t turn me into an alcoholic.

NatM70 · 08/06/2023 21:28

DanceMonster · 08/06/2023 21:26

Well, unless I’m a medical marvel, 2 weeks heavy drinking certainly didn’t turn me into an alcoholic.

I reiterate, I must be wrong then...

Glastobore · 08/06/2023 21:32

NatM70 · 08/06/2023 21:21

I must be wrong then...

I think you might be.

NatM70 · 08/06/2023 21:33

Glastobore · 08/06/2023 21:32

I think you might be.

🤣

LalaPaloosa · 08/06/2023 22:44

mindutopia · 07/06/2023 16:33

No, definitely not, it’s 3 (albeit large) drinks. Lots of people drink that much or more at a work function on a ‘school night’.

Drinking that much or more every or most nights though isn’t healthy and would be more problematic. As a one off or on occasion sort of thing, completely normal. I say this as a (now sober) alcoholic.

Any Amount of alcohol is bad for us. 3 large glasses in one sitting is considered binge drinking and there is no way a woman should finish a bottle of wine in a week, let alone an evening. I do think your friend has an alcohol problem

LalaPaloosa · 08/06/2023 22:47

UndertheCedartree · 07/06/2023 16:58

It's binge drinking which is bad for you.

Exactly right. It’s incredibly bad for your heart, liver, and brain. It also increases your risk of several cancers. No need for alcohol

80skid · 08/06/2023 22:54

Cheers everyone. I've enjoyed a bottle of red to myself over 3 hours. Granted I'm not alone in the house but I have drunk it alone. I wouldn't drive, but am sentient and will feel fine (and fit to drive) in the morning when I get up early to work before the kids wake, do a school run, a day's work, finish early and go to the gym.
It's rare for me to drink on a school night but I chose to today. I've enjoyed it. Chin chin

Mamanyt · 08/06/2023 23:19

I drink a bottle of wine alone in a night...about three times a year. In fact, exactly three times a year. Christmas, New Year's Eve and my birthday. No problem. Several times a week? Problem.

DanceMonster · 09/06/2023 07:24

LalaPaloosa · 08/06/2023 22:47

Exactly right. It’s incredibly bad for your heart, liver, and brain. It also increases your risk of several cancers. No need for alcohol

There’s no ‘need’ for a lot of things people to that are bad for us, but people still do them.