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to have the ick… FIL and DS

127 replies

Changedmymindtoday22 · 02/06/2023 20:02

Just want to see if I’m being precious….
FIL and DS were having lunch today with family.
DS had food on his finger that he wanted to be cleaned.

FIL sucked his finger to remove food.

is that ok? Weird?

He has kissed him on the lips when he was a baby too which I asked DH to tell him not to do. I personally find it ick.

Keen to know if it is, or would that be normal?

OP posts:
Changedmymindtoday22 · 02/06/2023 20:23

ExtraOnions · 02/06/2023 20:22

Is it because you suspect he is a paedophile ? Is this why you find it so disturbing ?

Oh no not at all.

It’s more that my son had to eat from his saliva fingers. Nothing sinister at all beyond yucky saliva on my kids fingers.

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Coffeetree · 02/06/2023 20:25

TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS

If it were just weird, you would feel weird. You felt Ick. You were there and we weren't. You got a creepy feeling for a reason. Read The Gift of Fear.

You'll get some gaslighting here for sure but if I were you I'd reduce contact. You asked him to stop the lip-kissing and he did no introspection and/or doesn't give a fuck. Reduce contact or even don't see him. He's adding nothing worthwhile to your sons life.

OnSusansFloor · 02/06/2023 20:25

Oh this would get my back up too OP. But I find the whole "using spit to clean children" thing really grim and disrespectful. MIL used to be forever licking her finger and using the spit to clean little smudges of food off of DS's face at mealtimes until I asked her how she could possibly think her spit was cleaner than the food. Like, better to just have the food there than someone else's spit, surely?! We don't clean anything else with spit, so why children's hands and faces??

ExtraOnions · 02/06/2023 20:27

Changedmymindtoday22 · 02/06/2023 20:23

Oh no not at all.

It’s more that my son had to eat from his saliva fingers. Nothing sinister at all beyond yucky saliva on my kids fingers.

Just as you seem particularly bothered about him giving him a kiss … I don’t think any saliva is exchanged when giving a peck, and if the most “Ick” thing your child has on their fingers is a tiny bit of grandparent saliva, you must have done an amazing job keeping him germ free.

24hourday · 02/06/2023 20:27

Coffeetree · 02/06/2023 20:25

TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS

If it were just weird, you would feel weird. You felt Ick. You were there and we weren't. You got a creepy feeling for a reason. Read The Gift of Fear.

You'll get some gaslighting here for sure but if I were you I'd reduce contact. You asked him to stop the lip-kissing and he did no introspection and/or doesn't give a fuck. Reduce contact or even don't see him. He's adding nothing worthwhile to your sons life.

Please tell me this is a parody.

Changedmymindtoday22 · 02/06/2023 20:27

I have no concerns with the relationship at all. I want to be very clear.

I just want to know should I say something should it happen again or would I look a little crazy. I didn’t like it, DH said nothing and I have not raised it with him just yet.

OP posts:
Coffeetree · 02/06/2023 20:29

ExtraOnions · 02/06/2023 20:22

Is it because you suspect he is a paedophile ? Is this why you find it so disturbing ?

Yup, I knew it.

OP has no idea whether he's a paedophile and there's no obligation for her to prove paedophilia before she recognises creepy behaviour and takes steps to keep her son away from someone who has no respect for Body autonomy.

TooBusyGazingAtStarss · 02/06/2023 20:31

Wouldn't bother me

Coffeetree · 02/06/2023 20:31

Changedmymindtoday22 · 02/06/2023 20:27

I have no concerns with the relationship at all. I want to be very clear.

I just want to know should I say something should it happen again or would I look a little crazy. I didn’t like it, DH said nothing and I have not raised it with him just yet.

You're not " crazy" for not wanting someone to literally suck your child.

SnugAsA · 02/06/2023 20:32

Yuck. Saliva should be kept to oneself, in my opinion.

I'm not a fan of kissing children on the lips, either. Pecks on the cheek are better. I know some families think nothing of lip-kisses, but it would give me the creeps. Kissing on the lips is strictly for romantic partners.

Dunnoburt · 02/06/2023 20:34

YANBU......I remember feeling like this when my BIL "clipped" his 2 year olds nails with his teeth......Ick.ick.ick 🤮

HellfireClubSandwich · 02/06/2023 20:34

Pteryl · 02/06/2023 20:14

What?! I must be very odd. I do this all the time!!

Same! It’s easier, especially if the food is tasty!

StrawberryWater · 02/06/2023 20:36

I’d be grossed out if anyone did this. Kids have dirty hands and people have dirty saliva mouths (and if they’ve just eaten then they’re putting saliva AND food particles on the kids fingers 🤢 ). Just no. Use a babywipe.

Missingmyusername · 02/06/2023 20:39

I think it’s grim, I wouldn’t like it either and relatives should respect your wishes.

Pteryl · 02/06/2023 20:41

I think it’s clear that people just have different views. It doesn’t make someone weird or odd to want or not want to do it. It wouldn’t be odd in my family, but I can appreciate it is in others. But, to immediately go to something sordid I do find odd, unless someone has had a history of abuse. Let’s not shame either side. My father isn’t a paedophille because my child stuck his chocolatey fingers up his nose and in his mouth, whilst laughing his head off. My mother isn’t a paedophille because my child kissed her on her lips goodbye and then grabbed her around the legs shouting ‘bye bye Nana’.

polkadotdalmation · 02/06/2023 20:41

Perhaps they didn't have wet wipes in his day!

BravoMyDear · 02/06/2023 20:42

🤮

continentallentil · 02/06/2023 20:42

I couldn’t get excited about this. Babies pick up all sorts of germs.

Changedmymindtoday22 · 02/06/2023 20:44

Nothing sordid.
No concerns.
Please don’t keep bringing that up it’s not necessary. It’s a very simple Q over a very simple event…

I’m trying to determine whether I would ask for that to not happen again if it does.

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Changedmymindtoday22 · 02/06/2023 20:45

I don’t care if he picks up a bug from my DS. His problem!!

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KR2023 · 02/06/2023 20:47

Not sure this situation is exactly the right use for the term "the ick"... 🤔

WaitingfortheTardis · 02/06/2023 20:53

For me this wouldn't be worth upsetting anyone over.

sandyhappypeople · 02/06/2023 20:59

Have you seen a two year old's hands at the best of times?.. I daren't hold my hand out to my DD(2) when she brings me something anymore, the last time I did that she put of clump of dog shit in my hand.

My mother in law always worries at the petting farm that the animals would give my DD germs if she was to fed them.. I said to stop worrying, as it's more likely that the animals would drop dead.

I'd be more worried about your FIL, I hope his immune system is okay!

Pteryl · 02/06/2023 20:59

Changedmymindtoday22 · 02/06/2023 20:44

Nothing sordid.
No concerns.
Please don’t keep bringing that up it’s not necessary. It’s a very simple Q over a very simple event…

I’m trying to determine whether I would ask for that to not happen again if it does.

Of course you can. You can ask them anything to do with your child if it upsets you (don’t give them bananas/sweets/celery, don’t swing them high on the swings, don’t read a certain book, don’t let them on a bouncy castle). Your child, your shout.

But the way you worded it made it sound like there was something else you were worried about.

3BSHKATS · 02/06/2023 20:59

Rather him than me 🤢