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SAHM- DH wanting to give me ‘routines’ and ‘duties’

974 replies

SummerDuck · 02/06/2023 19:43

So I’m a SAHM with DS1 (15), DS2 (9) and DD (3). DH works full time. He has recently started moaning about how I’m not doing enough around the house.

DD is at home full time other than being at nursery one day a week. I do most of the cooking, cleaning and general household admin. However, DH has said there is no not enough ‘output’. He therefore wants to introduce ‘routines’ and ‘duties’ whereby he will set out what needs to be done on a particular day and carry out checks upon returning from work.

So Monday will be garden day for example and the lawn will need to be mowed and leaves sweeped. Tuesday will be bathroom cleaning day and so on.

Is this level of micromanagement normal for SAHPs and should I just be grateful?

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FFF3 · 02/06/2023 20:43

You are seriously considering that question?! Lol. Come on OP. If he wants a housekeeper he can employ one. Just wow.

polkadotdalmation · 02/06/2023 20:43

He's lying if he thinks other lawyers wives take that sort of shit.

ToK1 · 02/06/2023 20:44

@Fizzytea

The 3 yo goes to nursery

Freefall212 · 02/06/2023 20:44

TomatoSandwiches · 02/06/2023 20:36

Tell him that he can either accept your current output whilst acknowledging he only gets to work as he currently does because you facilitate it or you can go back to work FT and he can do half drop offs pick ups and split cooking and cleaning 50/50.

What a knob.

I am not sure what you mean by 'gets to work'. He has the only income. He likely has to work or else they would be homeless and hungry and relying on social services for their most basic of needs and living day to day. Going to work isn't a fun voluntary hobby you 'get' to do when you are the only income.

If he quit his job as a lawyer to take a 9-3 he can find that allows him to be home for drop offs and pick ups, their quality of life would likely nose dive and would not afford OP or her kids the lifestyle they are accustomed to. If Op wants to give up their lifestyle and income in exchange for having him home with her most of the time to do more housework and childcare - that is something they need to discuss

They need to work together to figure out how all responsibilities can be shared in a way that neither feels resentful.

Iamclearlyamug · 02/06/2023 20:44

3girls1boy1puppy · 02/06/2023 20:31

No not normal. Unless he has a point and you aren’t keeping on top of housework - with two at school and a 3 year old you should definitely be on top of jobs. Does he have a point at all about your output not being enough? If the house is kept tidy and you are generally on top of all jobs then he is being a dick. He is your equal not your manager - and as others have said it would totally give me the ick and turn me off sex!

Write out your own weekly schedule for DH and see what he thinks.
Mon: Work harder and increase your bonus this month. Buy flowers for wife.
Tues: Update CV and linked in. Pay wife compliment.
Wed: Speak to current Manager to discuss possibility of promotion in current company. Give wife foot massage in evening.
Thurs: Apply for 10 higher paid jobs with external companies. Look after kids in evening while wife goes out with friends for dinner.
Fri: Wife will also carry out her own checks to make sure that you are adhering to schedule.

See how he likes it.

@33girls1boy1puppy I can't love this enough 😍🤣

CrazyArmadilloLady · 02/06/2023 20:45

notacooldad · 02/06/2023 20:36

I’ve now spoken to DH about this in more detail and apparently this is the done thing for his colleagues at work (he is a lawyer). They seemingly give their stay home wives ‘chore routines’ of tasks to be completed each day.
I doubt it.
It's the equivalent of a teenager saying ' but everyone 's mum let them' do whatever the teen wants to do.

Exactly.

And men like this wonder why their sex life falls off a cliff. 🙄

Thelastofbus · 02/06/2023 20:46

Urgh grim. Very ‘man of the house’ circa 1950. When I was at home, I was very clear that I was a stay at home MOTHER and my job was looking after the kids. As soon as they were at school I got back to work as I had no desire to be a stay at home WIFE.

Starlightstarbright1 · 02/06/2023 20:46

gamerchick · 02/06/2023 19:48

The words fuck off come to mind like...

That were the exact words I thought of .

This is control .

Greentree1 · 02/06/2023 20:47

If he thinks you are a servant fine, if you are his wife you can figure it out for yourself, if he doesn't like what you do or how you do it hard bloody luck. He can do it himself or get a servant.

Fizzytea · 02/06/2023 20:47

And, by the way, what he's suggesting is abuse.

Rewis · 02/06/2023 20:47

Whats the punishment if you don't complete the task? Are there going to be performance reviews? Compensation for overtime? Annual bonus if you go above and beyond?

sandyhappypeople · 02/06/2023 20:48

Namechanger1002 · 02/06/2023 20:35

I can understand having my own checklist. I still do.
Likewise at the weekend dh and I used to discuss what needed doing. But nobody dictated. Nobody demanded.
Op your dh’s delivery was so off. And bullshit do his peers get this. They are willy waving to each other

I thought this.. are you really telling me that everyone else in his office gives their wives a to do list every day then critiques them on it at the end of the day.. utter bollocks.

Namechanger1002 · 02/06/2023 20:48

ToK1 · 02/06/2023 20:44

@Fizzytea

The 3 yo goes to nursery

For 1 day a week unless I have misread

SleepingStandingUp · 02/06/2023 20:48

underneaththeash · 02/06/2023 20:33

@SummerDuck I know everyone thinks you're reasonable, but you've not replied. so it makes me think that's either some kind of reddit reverse or you are actually busy, but not doing things to some misogynist's standard.

If you're at home with only one DD who is 3, you should be doing the majority of the housework during the working week, no-one wants to come home after a hard day's work to a dirty, untidy home, when the other parent has been sitting on their arse all day. It's very different with a baby where you're getting very little sleep and they need a lot of your time.

3 year olds still need lots of your time. Make me a drink Mother, hold my hand Mother whilst we admire my toy collection, sit still Mother so I can sit on you because you're squishier than a cushion, make me lunch Mother, no mother a different lunch.
I have two 3 yos, my productivity when they're home is like - 3

PlacidPenelope · 02/06/2023 20:49

SummerDuck · 02/06/2023 20:29

I’ve now spoken to DH about this in more detail and apparently this is the done thing for his colleagues at work (he is a lawyer). They seemingly give their stay home wives ‘chore routines’ of tasks to be completed each day.

DH is envisaging coming hole from work and checking to see that the tasks set have been completed, which I have to say I’m not sure about happening.

He can envisage what he likes it should be a flat out NO from you, what are you not sure about?

I said it before HE IS NOT YOUR BOSS, YOU ARE NOT HIS EMPLOYEE.

Tell him to stick his chores and routines where the sun don't shine. How dare he speak to you or want to treat you like this? Who the fuck does he think he is?

nutbrownhare15 · 02/06/2023 20:49

Having read your update clearly he works with a bunch of dicks who have initiated him into the act like a dick to your wife because I'm a lawyer and so effing superior to my stay at home wife branch of the patriarchy.

Bathintheshed · 02/06/2023 20:50

Iamclearlyamug · 02/06/2023 20:44

@33girls1boy1puppy I can't love this enough 😍🤣

Yes do this!

It's like when my 6 year old comes home and tells me everyone in his class has a smartphone, ofcourse they do!

Seriously though if all his mates treat their wives like shit, they're probably shagging someone else behind their husbands backs and staying for the lifestyle. Is that what he wants?

SoAndSoSaidSo · 02/06/2023 20:51

Tell HIM to crack on with his lists.

Fuck that shite. I went back full time after each maternity and my DH admired me basically carrying our 2nd for 9 months solid including contact napping those 9 months and longer. We co slept too. He never ever said a word about what I should be doing.

Rewis · 02/06/2023 20:51

What's his aim? Just to control your dau and feel like a bigboi for bossing his wife? Or he feels you don't do enough? Like why does he care if bathroom is cleaned Tuesday or Wednesday?

Cantstandbullshitanymore · 02/06/2023 20:52

worldstillturns · 02/06/2023 19:44

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

My reaction as well, and the fact she has to ask on mumsnet shows how low her self confidence must be.

IncomingTraffic · 02/06/2023 20:52

Exactly what kinds of ‘output’ is he actually expecting?

You could clean the bathroom very day and he might still come home and never find it sparkling - especially with 3 kids in the house.

Tell him you’re going to unionise.

BetterFuture1985 · 02/06/2023 20:52

I don't think it is normal at all but I'm not necessarily inclined to side with the other side of the debate entirely either. He obviously doesn't think you are making an equal contribution which means he has lost respect for you. My ex-wife made the same snap judgment about me except I was the spouse at work. My ex tried to give me a weekend chore list which I guess is similar to what's happening here (whether she was right or wrong that I did less than her is irrelevant, marriage is meant to be a partnership and it shows a lack of respect when one spouse - with no knowledge or empathy of the other's responsibilities - starts denigrating the efforts of the other).

It's unfortunately a classic situation in a SAHP scenario where one parent starts thinking they do more than the other spouse and it's a relationship warning too. Having a 3 year old and a teenager at the same time must be very stressful for both of you. You either need to thrash this out, empathise with one another and agree your shares of life's responsibilities are fair or this will only get worse.

Pallisers · 02/06/2023 20:52

SummerDuck · 02/06/2023 20:29

I’ve now spoken to DH about this in more detail and apparently this is the done thing for his colleagues at work (he is a lawyer). They seemingly give their stay home wives ‘chore routines’ of tasks to be completed each day.

DH is envisaging coming hole from work and checking to see that the tasks set have been completed, which I have to say I’m not sure about happening.

And of course those wives are all gagging to have sex with men that set them chores like the housemaid.

I don't know how you'd come back from the level of disdain for you that is contained in his request.

Really hope this is a wind-up. if it isn't, go back to work OP.

Fizzytea · 02/06/2023 20:52

Freefall212 · 02/06/2023 20:44

I am not sure what you mean by 'gets to work'. He has the only income. He likely has to work or else they would be homeless and hungry and relying on social services for their most basic of needs and living day to day. Going to work isn't a fun voluntary hobby you 'get' to do when you are the only income.

If he quit his job as a lawyer to take a 9-3 he can find that allows him to be home for drop offs and pick ups, their quality of life would likely nose dive and would not afford OP or her kids the lifestyle they are accustomed to. If Op wants to give up their lifestyle and income in exchange for having him home with her most of the time to do more housework and childcare - that is something they need to discuss

They need to work together to figure out how all responsibilities can be shared in a way that neither feels resentful.

Umm, er, no. He 'gets to work,' because she is doing the essential work, which is absolutely vital for the human race, allowing him to do a very unnecessary and possibly damaging activity. Yes, it brings money in, but he's not doing the essential job.

And he 'gets to' work also because she has given up her potential career so that he can pursue his. He wouldn't be able to do his work without her enabling him to do so by looking after the children, doing his share for him.

randomfriends · 02/06/2023 20:52

Before I became a SAHM I was a legal secretary. Most of the male lawyers I worked with work-shy, divorced and full of shit.